NVA 'TFS': 'The Future Statement' lands at Marco Towers...

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Originally Posted by tubehunter

it handles 24bit 192khz files but if you are using your sony dac you will be limiting it to just 16bit 44.1/48khz.

have you tried it direct ino your pre with some hi rez stuff?

should sound really good

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Thanks Duncan. Yes agree Marco, try it direct with some hi rez stuff.

Nope, Dunc. I certainly don't mind trying that, although as you know, I would miss the sonic effect of my valve preamp - and you know how good the Croft is...

I may indeed buy a seperate modern DAC, simply for hi-res duties, as your point is valid, however the Sony DAC did considerably outperform the built-in one in the TFS, and so for my main purpose of ripping my CD collection to a hard-drive (it'll need to be much bigger than the standard one in the TFS), and streaming the music that way, the Sony would take some beating! :cool:

Marco.

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Originally Posted by chris@panteg

I think if someone makes such a statement then they should prove it !

looks interesting :)

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Too bloody right, mate. Words on a screen are cheap!!

Marco.

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Originally Posted by Marco

Nope, Dunc. I certainly don't mind trying that, although as you know, I would miss the sonic effect of my valve preamp - and you know how good the Croft is...

I may indeed buy a seperate modern DAC, simply for hi-res duties, as your point is valid, however the Sony DAC did considerably outperform the built-in one in the TFS, and so for my main purpose of ripping my CD collection to a hard-drive (it'll need to be much bigger than the standard one in the TFS), and streaming the music that way, the Sony would take some beating! :cool:

Marco.

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I assume it has analogue outs? just plug it into your pre mate.

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Originally Posted by Ali Tait

BTW I agree with you mate, once you factor in the cost of manufacturing the acrylic case, (acrylic is not cheap) assembling the thing, setting it up and then allowing a profit margin for Richard and Jason, it's not that rediculous. They both have to make a living, and it's not as if they can benefit from the economy of scale by selling thousands coz they won't, it's a cottage industry like Croft or Stan's dacs. Consider the cost of Richard's other Statement products also, it's certainly in line with those.

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Precisely, Ali. But those facts are almost NEVER taken into consideration by the 'I can build it better myself' brigade....! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Maybe Dave was just in a bad mood this morning? His rather inconsiderate comments were completely out of character. Who knows? We're all human...

Marco.

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Originally Posted by Ali Tait

I assume it has analogue outs? just plug it into your pre mate.

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Ah yes, sorry, I totally misunderstood that :doh:

Yup, I tried that briefly when Jason was here, and it did sound pretty good. I guess then I could use the in-built DAC in the TFS for streaming hi-res, and the Sony for playing my ripped files from CDs - sounds like a decent plan! :)

Marco.

Marco, if you want a good dac for hi rez, try this one -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Finished-2...item19c90b8fe5

Don't let the low price put you off, it saw off a MF M dac in my system.

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Originally Posted by kininigin

A quick question,to any that can answer,is it possible to use a linear psu in a 'normal' pc?

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You can use one but it is physically a larger beast than the standard SMPS. There are many qualities of PSU available these days, just are there are cleaner motherboards.

Hi Darren,

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Congrats marco,welcome to the computer audio age.I think it looks ok,not sure about the clear tubiing though,having said that as long as it sounds good,who cares.

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Precisely. I'm sure that if I were to see the results of some people's DIY efforts, they'd be, erm, equally as 'hideous' to my eyes! ;)

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There is definitely a market for something like this,for those who wouldn't want to take on such a project.

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There most definitely is. People like me who have no interest or love whatsoever for computers or DIY, want a piss-easy user-interface that your granny could use, thus no hassle whatsoever, and a plug-in music streaming solution that sounds utterly sublime! And also who can afford to have the luxury of such convenience. I suspect that there are a few of us around :eyebrows:

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Is it worth the cost? i don't know,but i'm sure if you say it beats your sony transport,which you rate highly,then it must be doing something right.

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Indeed. Trust me, the TFS is sonically quite special. When it comes to modern audio equipment, I don't say that lightly.

Marco.

There are a number of ways to get good file-based sound; the TFS is a perfectly valid approach aimed at a specific market. There are parallels with DIY amps, valves ones in particular.

There are those who can build a valve for let's say £600 but to buy an off-the-shelf equivalent item you might have to pay £3,000.

Then you have usability - quite possibly the TFS can be used by anyone, not just some hifi geeks who don't mind a few quirks in name of music.

Thinking about the main approaches for high quality file-based sound are there serious contenders I've missed?

1) specialty developed/assembled computer purchased as a product

2) diy version of 1)

3) media player with sexy GUI for mac or pc (easy but not the best sound)

4) in-memory player (restricted functionality but good sound) - best with a dedicated PC