Progression?

Don't know who said it first, but I've repeated it often:
"This generation of teenagers are the first ones who realised their parents record collection is cooler than their own".

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Originally Posted by Alex_UK

Good post Steve - my last visit to the local record shop I couldn't move for teenage punks digging through my adolescence - how very dare they! :lol:

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HA!

And yeah, some are even into the older music and not just modern rap and hip-hop.

se

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Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo

Don't know who said it first, but I've repeated it often:
"This generation of teenagers are the first ones who realised their parents record collection is cooler than their own".

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Great quote!

se

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Originally Posted by Steve Eddy

It's really less a matter of even order versus odd order as it is a matter of high order versus low order.

Low order distortion is less objectionable than high order distortion due to masking (see "critical bands"). Higher order distortion isn't masked so well and as a consequence is more audible,

However beyond simple audibility, it can still take a fair amount before it becomes objectionable. This is because higher order harmonics are not inherently objectionable.

Consider that a single note from even the most beautiful sounding musical instrument is ultimately just a highly distorted sinewave with a rich mixture of even and odd order harmonics. This is what forms the basis of additive synthesis (of which Wendy Carlos is perhaps the most famous practitioner) where you start out with a pure sinewave for the fundamental and then add other sinewaves at the harmonic frequencies in varying amounts to effectively reconstruct the sound of a real instrument.

se

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hi steve,
i have written many posts on this type of discussion and therefore decided in this case to just simplify my point, you have gone into more detail as to why we find diffrent types of distortion more obvious and therfore objectionable which is fine.:)
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Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo

Don't know who said it first, but I've repeated it often:
"This generation of teenagers are the first ones who realised their parents record collection is cooler than their own".

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nice one chris!:)
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Originally Posted by Steve Eddy

And not all 18 year olds today get exactly the same excitement from their MP3 players as we did from our turntables when we were younger. Many of them are tossing out their MP3 players in favor of vinyl. In fact, it was this very age group who played a pivotal role in keeping vinyl alive and in many ways are responsible for the current vinyl revival.

And some aren't missing anything from their perspective. But many of them are missing something for the simple reason that many of them don't even get exposed to anything other than what's directed at the mass market.

There will be those 18 year olds who upon experiencing vinyl (or even digital for that matter) on a nice vintage system will absolutely fall in love with it. And they will be the ones who carry our passions into the future.

So don't write them all off so casually.

se

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You definitely have a point there. Again my bad. I did not mean to write them all off. But I am afraid we are the minority. This obviously does not mean that at some period in time the analogue audio will become obsolete. It won't. There will always be a portion of young generation interested in it. That is why the valve is still here with us and it will always be here. I know with the stuff that I wrote so far since I have joined the forum some of you may have a wrong impression of me. All I am doing is to be realistic and open minded. But deep in heart I am primarily an analogue person and heavily on the craft side. I only use computers because I have to. I still hate programming. Its not that I can't learn it, I can. In fact I sit down and write psuedo programs on jobs that I wrok on, line by line and then give it to a friend of mine to put it onto a code. It could have been easier to write the code. So, I like craft and have certainly nothing against things like point to point wiring. But in technical sense I believe I have to be objective and realistic.

Anyhow, here are two of my mic-amp chassis. All of the components you see there is recyled from faulty cassette decks that I picked up on e-bay for 99p. Guess which deck it was. I have drawers full of old components like that waiting to be turned into gear for my studio. I can't design things like that for clients because it would cost arm and a leg to manufacture. So I get my pleasure out of building them for myself.

http://www.robotica.co.uk/sale/MicPre_01.jpg

http://www.robotica.co.uk/sale/MicPre_02.jpg

http://www.robotica.co.uk/sale/MicPre_03.jpg

great job sahib!:)
anthony,TD...

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Originally Posted by Sahib

Anyhow, here are two of my mic-amp chassis. All of the components you see there is recyled from faulty cassette decks that I picked up on e-bay for 99p. Guess which deck it was. I have drawers full of old components like that waiting to be turned into gear for my studio. I can't design things like that for clients because it would cost arm and a leg to manufacture. So I get my pleasure out of building them for myself.

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That's just plain fucking awesome!

My hat's off to you, Cemal!

se

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Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo

Don't know who said it first, but I've repeated it often:
"This generation of teenagers are the first ones who realised their parents record collection is cooler than their own".

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i like that Chris

It make me fell better when my eldest daughters mates who are all around 19 and twenty come over to listen to music and say your dad has a great taste in music :)

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Originally Posted by Sahib

Anyhow, here are two of my mic-amp chassis. All of the components you see there is recyled from faulty cassette decks that I picked up on e-bay for 99p. Guess which deck it was.

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Stunningly beautiful work there Attachment 2609

Looks like either Pioneer or possibly more likely Akai :scratch:

Whatever, those look absolutely fantastic :) Well done that man!