1210's! The jury is out.

BTW the JVC TT looks tasty!

The one in the video posted by Mark would benefit from a better cartridge though ;)

Enjoy having a few beers, Steve! When you come back, if you could answer this, I'd be much obliged:

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Also, which new bearing was used [Mike New, Timestep or Vantage Audio], and was the same arm and cartridge fitted to both T/Ts when the comparison was made?

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Churz! :cool:

Could you also confirm if the Techy you heard was still fitted with its standard internal PSU? You didn't mention any PSU upgrade in your previous post. If that's the case, combined with the use of an SME V, it goes a long way to explaining what you heard from said Techy! ;)

Marco.

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It's well-known that modern SME arms aren't a good match for the Techy. Your 'mechanical' comment appears to back this up.
Marco.

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:no: Your wrong! Mine sounds excellent but thats personally opinion. ;)

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Originally Posted by chris@panteg

Hi Steve , It didn't sound overly dull/opaque or a touch bass heavy did it ? I ask as that's how I would describe mine at the moment and I use an SME 309 .

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+1 with a little bass heavy but I have a small listening room so I wonder if its the room and not the deck??

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:no: Your wrong! Mine sounds excellent but thats personally opinion. ;)



+1 with a little bass heavy but I have a small listening room so I wonder if its the room and not the deck??

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That would be plausible Andrew , but simply comparing Sgt pepper and revolver on cd and vinyl tells me there is nowt wrong with my system or room , on cd they sound just how I expect them to sound , on vinyl they sound opaque and the bass draws attention to itself , not how George Martin intended I suspect ? Could it be what the SL1210 is sat on ? But it sounds the same through headphones .

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:no: Your wrong! Mine sounds excellent but thats personally opinion. ;)

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LOL - we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one. My feelings about magnesium-made SME arms, especially when used on Techies, are well-known!

Marco.

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Originally Posted by chris@panteg

That would be plausible Andrew , but simply comparing Sgt pepper and revolver on cd and vinyl tells me there is nowt wrong with my system or room , on cd they sound just how I expect them to sound , on vinyl they sound opaque and the bass draws attention to itself , not how George Martin intended I suspect ? Could it be what the SL1210 is sat on ? But it sounds the same through headphones .

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Chris, can you explain to me what I should be listening for to try and detect when a record sound opaque? I'd like to see if my deck has this characteristic but dont have a clue what I should listening for:scratch:

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LOL - we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one. My feelings about magnesium-made SME arms, especially when used on Techies, are well-known!

Marco.

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Wondered how long it took before you bit :lolsign: Don't forget we have very similar decks, but paradoxically, markedly different in that my PCB has been recapped, I have a different tonearm board etc, and I got rid of all the 1210 bling, so on my deck the V could be a better match. I don't really care TBH I love my deck :ner:

That's all that matters, matey :)

Marco.

[QUOTE=REXTON;391598]Chris, can you explain to me what I should be listening for to try and detect when a record sound opaque? I'd like to see if my deck has this characteristic but dont have a clue what I should listening for:scratch:



I would say like a thin veil drawn in front of the speakers , a slightly thickish quality to textures , I am being very critical perhaps , it still sounds good ! I won't make any more negative comments as it's not helping much .

Well I have just returned to a Technics SL1200MK2, totally standard with a 2M BLUE fitted at present. This will be the third 1200 series I've had and this one is going no where!

I must admit it's with much relief that I use this 1200 now, my inner person just says, ahhhhhh.....relax, when I drop the needle.

Such good performance, build and usability for the money.

I'm already thinking about mods:doh:

:)