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Meet my mate Merlot..........
............he's the one with the mad cat-scary eyes.
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Catz rool! :ner:
Shpeekarz....... Ah, that's more like it! :eyebrows:
How's it all sounding, babby?
Marco.
It's actually not too bad.
Had some troubles with a little bit o' one note bass for a while there, but now we've got some real acrobatic stuff going on
I have a quick question for those who have upgraded their SL1200's.
What causes that awful feedback like sound you get when you touch the plinth or lower the dust cover on the standard issue one?
Mine is terrible, I don't get any of that on my Pro-Ject that sits beside it on the same shelf. So it's not the shelf, not the cart either as I have swapped that to the other table and no hint of it.
Is it any one thing or a number of things?
Also what do I need to upgrade to bring the sound out, when compared to my other table with the same cart, Denon DL-110, same album it's like I threw a blanket over the speakers, with the Technics.
Is it the arm or power supply or both?
Any advice would be appreciated.
They don't normally do this, something is faulty.
Regards
Dave
PS, LOVE your signature, simply brilliant!
Oh come on Dave Cawley, stating the obvious isn't much help to Hypnotoad as he already knows something ain't right. He asks for advice but none given. I'd also be interested in some proper and knowledgeable answer as to what may cause it?
Rich, why the aggression! I simply pointed out it is a fault, not something generic, quite useful I thought? What is your input?
I just hate it one someone jumps in to have a pop and makes no effort to help.
Dave
Yeah, Ritch, I have to say the tone of your post was completely uncalled for. Are you having a bad day?
Hi Hypnotoad,
What's your first name and where are you from? Have you popped into the welcome area yet and introduced yourself and your system? If not, please do so - ta :)
I agree with Dave - your SL-1200 shouldn't do that, even without it being modified. Where do you have it placed? Ideally, it should be on some form of proper equipment support to help isolate it from the environment and the effects of resonance/vibration. You could also try removing the stock feet and using some Sorbothane ones instead.
All turntables respond positively or negatively to where they're placed, direct-drives more so than others, so it's very important that you pay proper attention to where your table is located.
As for your other point, without more detail about what exactly it is you're hearing, what your system consists of, and what your other turntable is, it's hard to say.
If you can supply more info then we'll take it from there :cool:
Marco.
Hi Guys,Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
I realise I'm doing my reputation for being a maverick a power of no good at all but I have to disagree with Marco here and agree with Ritch. IMHO, to treat a request for help with such disdain, particularly on a forum that prides itself on it's friendly and helpful ethos,was less than helpful. And NO Dave, I'm not having another pop at you, I'm just calling it as I see it. If my contribution to this post is unwelcome in some areas, I'm sorry but it is my honest opinion, free speech and all that.
Politeness costs nowt!
The rest of Marco's post was exactly what I have come to expect from this forum, and Marco in particularl - pity Dave couldn't sing from the same hymn sheet straight away - I'm sure he will when he gets the question phrased in a manner that suits him, but it shouldn't be necessary, IMHO.
Cheers,
Whoa...! Guys, you are a touchy lot. No bad hair day here and no agression meant or intented. The guy asks for advice and fails to get it and only gets a one liner reply with nothing useful in it and now it's my problem???. My input? I don't have any on the question for advice otherwise I wouldn't have said [QUOTE][I'd also be interested in some proper and knowledgeable answer as to what may cause it? /QUOTE] I would also like to know the answer. If I knew I'd have tried to answer. Bye!
Hi Dave,
I'm sorry, but I don't see how:
...could be construed as impolite? :confused:Quote:
They don't normally do this, something is faulty.
Dave C is right and simply telling it as it is - the deck must be faulty as it's not supposed to do what Hypnotoad described.
How is Dave C supposed to diagnose what's wrong without having more information to go on? I'm sure that armed with such information he will more than willingly go into more detail and offer his advice as to what the possible solution may be :)
Hi Rich,
I think you've misinterpreted Dave C's post the same way as Dave K has, which prompted you to reply the way you did. The fallibility of the written word! Anyway, apologies for saying you were having a bad day.
Marco.
Hi Ritch,Quote:
Originally Posted by Ritch
Hope you don't mean that last word as finally as it sounds - everybody is entitled to have a bad day once in a while, both you and Dave, (and me, ask Marco :lol: ). Stick around, neither of the two opening lines in the posts in question are typical of the response you can expect on this forum, IMHO and E, and you will get all the help you need from both guys, and others, until your problem is sorted. Seriously this is the best source of information on getting the best out of your Techie that you are likely to find anywhere - stay with it.
Cheers,
DaveK are you going to derail every post of mine? And yes, in my eyes you are unwelcome. I showed no distain at all. I'm fed up with you jumping in just to have a pop at me. I think others are too.
Dave
Guys,
Let's leave it there please! Any further off-topic comments like that will be removed without warning.
Back to the thread topic now, please... :)
Marco.
Hi Marco and Dave,
Don't you really? Imagine how you'd react if you took your car into a garage, explained a problem you were having and got that for a response, unless it was said with a very wide grin on the face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Dave C, sincerely I have no agenda, hidden or otherwise, as far as you and your posts are concerned. I was brought up to be polite to everyone and it grates when I see/hear/read impoliteness in others, intended or not. Surely you will concede that your post could have been a little more constructive, as Marco's was, even if it wasn't intended.
I have never and would never question your intentions or expertise, it's just the way you put it over sometimes.
Cheers,
Yes, Dave, but you'd have to give the mechanic a bit more information, and he'd also have to examine the car first, (Dave C can't examine the turntable) in order for him to diagnose the problem. Also consider that Dave C might have been busy then and therefore didn't have the time to type a lengthy response.
Ok, all points noted now. No more of arguing now from anyone, otherwise I get my eraser out ;)
Cheers!
Marco.
Cheers Marco,
No problems with that.
Back to topic: - how to help Ritch - all hands to that pump.
This reminds me of the attitiude of myself (:() and others following the same narrow path back in the late seventies/early eighties - "Where can you get spares for a Sugden "Conoisseur" turntable?"
"If I were you, I'd chuck it in the bin, it's so bad..." or words to that effect. result, one "customer" who'll never set foot in your shop again.....
Back to "thumpy" Techies.. Strikes me as if the feet have been screwed right up so there's no "give" at all. It could also be loose arm mounting screws, loose motor/bearing mounting screws, a loose base-board, inappropriate mat choice, loose headshell and cartridge within it..
Any of the above, plus a few I've forgotten, would give this anomaly compared to a Pro-Ject equivalent. My first route would be to carefully remove the base and check the arm-plate mountings for tightness - not to over-do it, but to make sure there's no looseness. same with all the other things I suggested. As my 150 is different underneath to the 1200 mk2 era on, I think the feet have a rubber cushioning inside. If this is so, make sure that there is some flexure within each foot. If not, replace or, in any case, get some sorbothane "boots" which should help no end. A dedicated mat (Spacemat for cheapness?) will also help no end once everything is checked for tightness.
Rega's can do this too and if the nuts holding the main bearing and tonearm (pre current ones) have worked loose, the performance of the deck is wrecked, along with the tracking ability of some cartridges. One reason why Rega dealers should be well trained in sorting out turntable problems - I understand that a little while ago, not all were.....
As far as handling noises on the Tecchie goes, mine's always done this, and I assumed it was par for the course, so I'm interested to find it's not. If I tap the body of the deck I can hear it amplified through the speakers - likewise, there's a low frequency rumble as the lid closes. I'll check my feet (std ones - yes I know I need to change them!) but it'll be interesting to see how the sound quality is affected by changing them.
Jason
Hi Jason,Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason P
Ive got a basic Techie with upgraded headshell and cartridge but it has NEVER made such a noise as you describe and mine's also got basic feet. I believe the real Techie afficianados remove the lid permanently - maybe we now know why ;). Have you tried removing your's? it just lifts out of the housings on the rear.
Cheers,
If I tap the body of the deck I can hear it amplified through the speakers - likewise, there's a low frequency rumble as the lid close
This is quite normal.
Dave
I guess that it depends on how much you can hear the tapping, which will show you how well your deck is isolated...
I can turn my preamp up full with the needle on the record and rap my knuckles on the top plate of the deck and only hear the faintest of taps through the speakers, but then my 1210 is on 18 levels of Mana ;)
Marco.
Mine has a low frequecy thud if I tap it too, less so since I have isolated it it and less so if I put the weight on it!
I think it should be pointed out to our new member that this minor kafuf between a few members is in no way an inherent trait of this forum. It is almost entirly unheard of on here, and should be disregarded in this instance as banter! This forum is well moderated and the general feeling is usually completely amicable between members! Don't let it put you off.
Bad daves, naughty! ;)
This is what I am experiencing and thought it was normal until I got a Pro-Ject Perspective. I thought maybe because the Technics isn't suspended like the Pro-Ject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason P
I wouldn't mind spending the money on a new arm and PSU if I thought I could surpass the performance of the Perspective with 9 cc arm.
The Technics is far easier to use and setup than the Pro-Ject and I still use it a lot.
However at the moment I am captivated by the sound of the Perspective since I got a Benz Micro Ace.
I know this is not the be all and end all in gear but considering last year I didn't even own a working stereo, it's been a revelation, I have purchased a few hundred albums and spend most of my spare time listening to them. My wife loves them also.
The rest of my spare time is spent scouring Craigslist and Audiogon for bargains. And record stores, thrift shops etc, buying albums, the only new one I have purchase was The Beatles - Love double album.
Hi HT,
I'll advise you more on what you've written later (listening to music at the moment)... In the meantime, I would direct you to my earlier post and the comments I made therein:
Please attend to this at your earliest convenience, thanks!Quote:
Hi Hypnotoad,
What's your first name and where are you from? Have you popped into the welcome area yet and introduced yourself and your system? If not, please do so - ta :)
Marco.