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    Meet my mate Merlot..........
    ............he's the one with the mad cat-scary eyes.


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    Catz rool!

    Shpeekarz....... Ah, that's more like it!

    How's it all sounding, babby?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

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    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

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    It's actually not too bad.
    Had some troubles with a little bit o' one note bass for a while there, but now we've got some real acrobatic stuff going on

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    I have a quick question for those who have upgraded their SL1200's.

    What causes that awful feedback like sound you get when you touch the plinth or lower the dust cover on the standard issue one?

    Mine is terrible, I don't get any of that on my Pro-Ject that sits beside it on the same shelf. So it's not the shelf, not the cart either as I have swapped that to the other table and no hint of it.

    Is it any one thing or a number of things?

    Also what do I need to upgrade to bring the sound out, when compared to my other table with the same cart, Denon DL-110, same album it's like I threw a blanket over the speakers, with the Technics.

    Is it the arm or power supply or both?

    Any advice would be appreciated.
    Last edited by Hypnotoad; 21-09-2009 at 01:01.
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    They don't normally do this, something is faulty.

    Regards

    Dave

    PS, LOVE your signature, simply brilliant!

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    Oh come on Dave Cawley, stating the obvious isn't much help to Hypnotoad as he already knows something ain't right. He asks for advice but none given. I'd also be interested in some proper and knowledgeable answer as to what may cause it?

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    Rich, why the aggression! I simply pointed out it is a fault, not something generic, quite useful I thought? What is your input?

    I just hate it one someone jumps in to have a pop and makes no effort to help.

    Dave

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    Yeah, Ritch, I have to say the tone of your post was completely uncalled for. Are you having a bad day?

    Hi Hypnotoad,

    What's your first name and where are you from? Have you popped into the welcome area yet and introduced yourself and your system? If not, please do so - ta

    I agree with Dave - your SL-1200 shouldn't do that, even without it being modified. Where do you have it placed? Ideally, it should be on some form of proper equipment support to help isolate it from the environment and the effects of resonance/vibration. You could also try removing the stock feet and using some Sorbothane ones instead.

    All turntables respond positively or negatively to where they're placed, direct-drives more so than others, so it's very important that you pay proper attention to where your table is located.

    As for your other point, without more detail about what exactly it is you're hearing, what your system consists of, and what your other turntable is, it's hard to say.

    If you can supply more info then we'll take it from there

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yeah, Ritch, I have to say the tone of your post was completely uncalled for. Are you having a bad day?
    Marco.
    Hi Guys,
    I realise I'm doing my reputation for being a maverick a power of no good at all but I have to disagree with Marco here and agree with Ritch. IMHO, to treat a request for help with such disdain, particularly on a forum that prides itself on it's friendly and helpful ethos,was less than helpful. And NO Dave, I'm not having another pop at you, I'm just calling it as I see it. If my contribution to this post is unwelcome in some areas, I'm sorry but it is my honest opinion, free speech and all that.
    Politeness costs nowt!
    The rest of Marco's post was exactly what I have come to expect from this forum, and Marco in particularl - pity Dave couldn't sing from the same hymn sheet straight away - I'm sure he will when he gets the question phrased in a manner that suits him, but it shouldn't be necessary, IMHO.
    Cheers,
    Last edited by DaveK; 21-09-2009 at 10:55.
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    Whoa...! Guys, you are a touchy lot. No bad hair day here and no agression meant or intented. The guy asks for advice and fails to get it and only gets a one liner reply with nothing useful in it and now it's my problem???. My input? I don't have any on the question for advice otherwise I wouldn't have said [QUOTE][I'd also be interested in some proper and knowledgeable answer as to what may cause it? /QUOTE] I would also like to know the answer. If I knew I'd have tried to answer. Bye!

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