New Solid Aluminium Platter for the SL1200

166 post around a subject based in reality on a fall out between two people... i might not be the most intelegent person here, nor am i that great at expressing my self through text... but one thing i do have his emotional intelegence and it suprises me that the following is not blindingly obvious -

this forum is like a house
marcos house if you will
we are all welcomed in to marcos house with a smile
many of us have got a great deal out of chatting to marco and other folk in marcos house
dave was once welcome in marcos house
dave never really fit in to well
he had his views but never really felt he could express them too well
marco made a request of dave that dave didnt like
dave said no
marco said yes
dave said NO!
marco said sod ya then get out of my house
dave said fine sod you
hamish and a few other people tried to help
hamish and a few others banged thier heads against the walls
dave said let me back in in 2 days or i wont post again
dave was not let in in 2 days
a week later a breakthough
dave and marco finaly speak
dave says he might post again
this thread is started
dave isnt happy about posting as he is still testing his product
marco gets pissed of with dave for not posting
dave says well sod him then im not posting again
more people get involved
dave doesnt feel he needs to justify him self
marco thinks he should
dave doesnt care
then marco says whatever i dont care either
some time later the thread is reignited
marco still demands dave post
dave doesnt post
dave doesnt care that marco wants him to post
dave doesnt feel he needs this forums aproval of his products
that winds up marco
marco makes comments on the forum that wind up dave
the situation is made worse
that winds up marco
marco makes comments on the forum that wind up dave
the situation is made worse
that winds up marco
marco makes comments on the forum that wind up dave
the situation is made worse

thats about the jist of it ... its a situation that is now unlikely to change...
by all means discus daves products like any other ... speculation is indeed part of this hobby... but goading a previous member to post when he does not want to is not... and i repeat NOT going to get you anywhere

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Originally Posted by Marco

LOL - love it! And how does it sound then, Chris? Spill! Are you using it with the HE PSU?

Oh, and is it on trial or have you paid for it? :) ;)

If it's the latter then Dave must now be completely satisfied with the results if he's selling them to people......

Marco.

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its just a photo of it not at chris's house

as a side note my good mate joe who is here today says "dont you know there is a world cup?!" ;)

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its just a photo of it not at chris's house

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Haha....:doh: :lol:

Well, when Chris wrote:

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Just got this from Dave...

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It came across as if he'd just got the new platter delivered, particularly as Martin and I were discussing who was going to buy one first!

And yes, I'll be watching the World Cup later :)

Marco.

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by all means discus daves products like any other ... speculation is indeed part of this hobby... but goading a previous member to post when he does not want to is not... and i repeat NOT going to get you anywhere

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Hamish, it's got nothing to do with "goading" him to post - he can do what he wants. I'm past caring. I'm just making a valid observation (as was Anthony), as indeed we're entitled to do.

The fact is, if I feel it's pertinent to make that point during the discussion, then I'll make it.

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but goading a previous member to post when he does not want to is not... and i repeat NOT going to get you anywhere

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And you moaning about me mentioning it is not, I repeat NOT going to get you anywhere either! :eyebrows: ;)

So................... Let's not have any more posts like #171, please (although your summary therein was reasonably accurate). All I would say is that with regard to this:

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dave doesnt feel he needs this forums aproval of his products
that winds up marco

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...that's simply not the case. It's got nothing whatsoever to do with AOS 'approving' Dave's products. That's for individuals to decide for themselves. It's about his customers here who are considering buying a new platter being sufficiently informed of its expected efficacy in order for them to decide to buy one or not, unless he's planning on sending out test samples for evaluation purposes to potential customers first. I think not.

Quite simply, if Dave didn't want to be questioned about the new platter, then he should've kept it quiet until the design (and how it works in conjunction with the control circuitry/motor of the SL-1200) was finalised. Once you mention something interesting, people quite naturally want to know more.

At the moment such information is next to non-existent, particularly with regard to the concerns that people have raised on this thread.

In my view there is no excuse for this, and the fact that he patently doesn't care what people think, I consider as rather arrogant and unhelpful, not to mention a slap in the face to those of us who've supported his business financially and otherwise since he became a member here.

*That*, muchacho, is what "winds up Marco"!

Anyway, if you see me mentioning Mr Cawley's lack of contribution to this discussion again in future, for whatever reason, just ignore it :)

Marco.

Righto
just puttin the facts out there ... Since this thread is requesting facts i felt it pertinent to point some of them out ;)

No problemo - time for lunch now, me thinks! http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1...racter0104.gif

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Marco.

Marco, you remember what I said, and you said, and I replied...

At this moment in time, the platter doesn't exist in the market. Wanting answers NOW won't do any good, will it?

Sometimes the best way to deal with schoolboys exhibiting "behaviour" is to ignore them and that gets 'em really mad because they don't have an audience to strut in front of...

Hi Dave,

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At this moment in time, the platter doesn't exist in the market. Wanting answers NOW won't do any good, will it?

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We're not necessarily looking for "answers"; just some feedback or updates on developments and/or replies to concerns some customers of his have raised. I don't think that this is at all unreasonable.

It'll be interesting to see when the platter does exist on the market just how much information we receive with regard to the issues that have been discussed here........ ;)

Anyway, let's not dwell any further on this and return to discussing the product concerned :)

Marco.

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Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L

I did qualify what I said as "I could be wrong here", but without Tom is it still NA? Thanks for the clarification about NA still being in existence.

I like NA TTs :) One of those foundational analogue experiences for me, was a NA Mentor Reference in Vinyl Tube Audio (now sadly gone), many, years ago in Fortress Road London.


Regards D S D L

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Tom hasn't been with Nottingham Analogue for around 6 years or more and they continue without him.

As for ' is it still NA ?', you could ask exactly the same of Michell Engineering, SME, Spendor, Sugden, Quad etc, etc, all companies carrying on very nicely without their founder.

Meanwhile, Tom is making his own range of products and I should have something to show in a few weeks. What this will be, I have no idea at this time.