New Solid Aluminium Platter for the SL1200

[anthonyTD]

What confuses me about all this concern for motor torque and response times and infinite values is this. People are demanding that Dave who sells my platters in the UK and Europe, produce detailed evidence of performance. I would have thought that maybe some might think that these figures should be provided by others.

If Anthony has concerns about ‘INFINITE” values then perhaps he may know enough to provide us with the mathematical equations governing same.

hi mike,
there are people here who are much more qualified than me to offer such information yourself and dave included, and i suspect that will be the case at some point when the platter becomes available to the genral public, please dont confuse me with someone who may have a vested interest in condemning you, dave, or any of the mods for the 1210 offered by you both, as stated when i first started contributing to this thread my concerns are genuine and IMHO all it would take to put minds at rest is some comparisons by yourselves on the before and after to show improvements or drawbacks, surely you can see that this would be the best opportunity to advertise and promote the new platter and therefore convince the good people here that it's the right way to go?
if my input here as a bystander is causing discomfort to either yourself or dave i will understand and will therefore contribute no more to this thread.
regards,anthony,TD...

[Marco]

Hi Martin,

Unfortunately not, I ordered the deck with the mod installed. All I will say is that it has no problems unearthing 'uber' bass, as Dave calls it, and is extremely pitch stable.

Having heard your deck, I can't argue with that. As you know, of course, mine does the same by using a slightly different approach.

I suspect that the motor dynamics mod is undoubtedly meritorious for people using 'normal' tonearms/headshells and cartridges. However, now you've got the copper mat and Dynavector fitted, you may wish to revisit things and ask Dave to return the torque of your T/T to normal, and compare the sonic effect both ways. I'd be interested to know the outcome.

As the motor control is a closed loop analogue circuit, the compensation in reality is continuous and tiny.

Perhaps, but the question is - is it enough to cause pitch and timing issues not immediately detectable by our ears in the short term, but manifesting itself in the long term in a way that’s detrimental to our enjoyment of the music reproduced - and worse, perhaps also causing long-term damage to the motor?

For me, this is not something with which I'm willing to speculate £650, without first the provision of measurable evidence which allays my concerns.

I think the problem is I feel that the electrical element of the circuit is not being considered enough in conjunction with the mechanical. Now whilst many turntables are largely mechanical, the Technics does, by design, have a significant electrical component, therefore I suspect that some more consideration in that area is needed before we'll get to the root of whether or not the new high-mass platter solves more problems than it creates......

Like everyone, I want to hear the MN platter for myself....

So are you going to be the guinea pig? This is what we all want to know, dude!



Marco.

[MartinT]

<shrink>
I'm still suffering from the cost of the Dynavector! I'll think about it...

[Marco]

Hi Anthony,

IMHO all it would take to put minds at rest is some comparisons by yourselves on the before and after to show improvements or drawbacks, surely you can see that this would be the best opportunity to advertise and promote the new platter and therefore convince the good people here that it's the right way to go?

Indeed! And the fact that certain key people are being rather reticent in that respect does not help matters, but hey ho, we will soldier on regardless.....

Marco.

[Marco]

<shrink>
I'm still suffering from the cost of the Dynavector! I'll think about it...

Hahahahaha..... And don't forget your tyres!

Hey, someone's gotta do it or how else are we gonna know what it does in the short term, sonically? Do you want to go halfers on one, then?

Then we can arrange a sesh and whoever likes it the most on his deck can keep it and give the other person their money back to order one later, or not, as the case may be......

Marco.

[MartinT]

And don't forget your tyres!

I almost had and now you've reminded me
Not to mention Roger Waters tickets for next year on top of F1 and Paul McCartney this year...

Ah well, you only live once.

I need to get summer out of the way (the cost of a holiday and paving my garden patio are looming) and will then review my funds.

[Marco]

No worries, matey - I have similar demands in that respect, so I suspect that this may be a winter project for us to do

Hey, at least it'll give Dave plenty of time to fine-tune things and optimise the results!

Marco.

[chris@panteg]

Just got this from Dave

[chris@panteg]

And this one

[Marco]

LOL - love it! And how does it sound then, Chris? Spill! Are you using it with the HE PSU?

Oh, and is it on trial or have you paid for it?

If it's the latter then Dave must now be completely satisfied with the results if he's selling them to people......

Marco.