Goodbye HiFi Wigwam

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Originally Posted by Marco

Without meaning to be pedantic, as an Italian, I consider it my duty to correct you. The saying that you're striving for, Frank, is in fact: 'Che sarà, sarà'.

And there endeth the lesson... ;)

Marco.

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I remember a discussion I had about this a long time ago. Some one said it was from the Latin, but from my Latin I did up to 13 tears old it doesn't quite add up. The story is it came from an Italian style film and was also a song in English by Doris Day. The people who wrote the English version of the song just did it phonetically, which in fact makes it nearer to Spanish, but it is not a Spanish saying, the nearest would be "lo que será, será". So once again it came about due to the ignorance of the English for any other language than English. Because if left in the Italian English people would say ch as in cheese.

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Originally Posted by Marco

P.S How about including an avatar on your profile, which is relevant to you? We like avatars on AoS, as they help portray the personality of the person behind the posts :)

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I have no avatar, which is a fair reflection of my lack of personality.

Originally Posted by Marco
P.S How about including an avatar on your profile, which is relevant to you? We like avatars on AoS, as they help portray the personality of the person behind the posts

Oh blimey, I think I need to change mine then:eek:.

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Originally Posted by Marco

.... How about including an avatar on your profile, which is relevant to you? We like avatars on AoS, as they help portray the personality of the person behind the posts :)

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Yup, everone here knows that I am completely quackers!

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Originally Posted by Marco

Lol! That's 'cos I was born in Glasgow, but then you didn't hear me speak Italian ;)

However, Scottish accents are abound in parts of the town where my family come from in Tuscany, as they're full of folk who own chip-shops, restaurants and cafes in Scotland, but whose roots are most definitely 100% Italian. I come under that category.

It's rather like Indian or Pakistani people who were born in the UK - they simply take on the accent of their home town or area, when speaking English, but when speaking their mother tongue, sound very much like an Indian or Pakistani! :)

Marco.

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Yes i know Marco , just trying to lighten the mood a little :) Tuscany looks beautiful , my only visit to Italy was a week in Rome , very memorable place :)

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Originally Posted by freefallrob

Originally Posted by Marco
P.S How about including an avatar on your profile, which is relevant to you? We like avatars on AoS, as they help portray the personality of the person behind the posts

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Hmm only just figured out how to do that!

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Originally Posted by freefallrob

Originally Posted by Marco
P.S How about including an avatar on your profile, which is relevant to you? We like avatars on AoS, as they help portray the personality of the person behind the posts

Oh blimey, I think I need to change mine then:eek:.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bender_(Futurama)

Actually having read the above, it seems fine...:lol:

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Originally Posted by Marco

Lol! That's 'cos I was born in Glasgow, but then you didn't hear me speak Italian ;)

However, Scottish accents are abound in parts of the town where my family come from in Tuscany, as they're full of folk who own chip-shops, restaurants and cafes in Scotland, but whose roots are most definitely 100% Italian. I come under that category.

It's rather like Indian or Pakistani people who were born in the UK - they simply take on the accent of their home town or area, when speaking English, but when speaking their mother tongue, sound very much like an Indian or Pakistani! :)

Marco.

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A large majority of them came from prisoners of war who didn't want to go back home, or met a Scottish lass while working on the farms in Scotland, where most of the Italian prisoners were sent.

Can you imagine a poor young Scottish farmers daughter being confronted by an Italian lad with full balls and rampant testerone :eek:

Hi Richard,

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The story is it came from an Italian style film and was also a song in English by Doris Day.

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There is of course no indisputably correct answer for this, as it's more folklore than fact, and so largely open for individual interpretation, but in my opinion your answer is probably as correct as it gets.

Indeed, if you were in Italy and said to someone: "Que Sera, Sera", or another version of that which was nothing like the commonly known phrase of 'Che sarà, sarà', they'd just look at you, as if you were daft! ;)

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The people who wrote the English version of the song just did it phonetically, which in fact makes it nearer to Spanish, but it is not a Spanish saying, the nearest would be "lo que será, será". So once again it came about due to the ignorance of the English for any other language than English. Because if left in the Italian English people would say ch as in cheese.

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Indeed. 'Che', in Italian, is simply pronounced as we do the letter 'k' :)

Marco.

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A large majority of them came from prisoners of war who didn't want to go back home, or met a Scottish lass while working on the farms in Scotland, where most of the Italian prisoners were sent.

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That is true. Also, many Italians fled Italy, during the depression of the 1930s, such as my granddad, to try and start a new life in Britain, where things were much better, and so started up their own businesses, many of which were cafes and chip-shops. That is where my roots come from.

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Can you imagine a poor young Scottish farmers daughter being confronted by an Italian lad with full balls and rampant testerone :eek:

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Hahaha... Indeed - and I bet most would've loved it!! :eyebrows:

Marco.