could perhaps have it wired for both via a switch?
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could perhaps have it wired for both via a switch?
That is exactly what is required, though I baulk at the of the idea of paying £89 for it!Quote:
Originally Posted by AJSki2fly
I would like to know what cable is used between the two connectors.
But to answer the question of the pin-out for the tonearm connector (the silver socket), it is the same for all tonearms.
I have had two Pro-Ject RCA tone arm cables and both are very well made and good sonically, and not expensive. I thought £89 was not bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
I'm suspicious of any cable which has an outer braided sheath - it can cover up a multitude of sins.
I also would like to know if the connecting cable is screened 4 core cable (which would simply extend the wiring in the arm). or if it consists of two sets of screened two core cable.
Posties been.
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Heavy Bugger!
oooh, a cardboard box... sexy:ner:
I'm kinda "all in" with maxing out AC power quality to my System?
I've found it makes a fundamental difference to how your kit performs and basically takes away any barriers to it hitting closer to its full performance.
The specs of the Pro-Ject S3B are very good, particularly in it's Balanced circuit design?
The rest of my system runs XLR Balanced cables, from a fully hardwired balanced AC Mains transformer, and wanted vinyl playback to join in the fun too.
Plus, I suspected the Pro-Ject was severely gimped with the crappy stock switchmode brick.
PSU Specs:
Voltager regulation and Ripple Current are very good for a regulated linear supply that costs under £40.
I've the 3A 18V version.
https://i.imgur.com/Ku3tvet.jpg
This replaces the crappy wall-wart that came with the Pro-Ject phonostage,
and hopefully tick the box of Getting as much performance out of the Phonostage as possible - a better match for my Rega hopefully?
Will bring the following advantages?
1 Lets me get rid of a noisy switchmode supply
2 Can run the Phonostage on balanced AC
3 Use a far better quality DC cable and connector
4 Can hook up the power supply to mains using one of my better power cables I have kicking around
5 As PSU will be in next room feeding Pro-Ject through wall,
it frees up a socket behind the rack (hardwired distribution block fed from balanced mains) that I can now use to keep my Rega P10's power supply constantly powered and fed from less noisy balanced AC. Ideal.
So well worth doing, cost me less than £40 and can bring into service better quality cables from the spares box.
Plugged in and tested - all good.
Can set it up to 18.6V and measured the output with a meter, Voltage regulation is spot on.
Measured at the AC connector tip too, no Vdrop over the cable - so does what it says on the tin. :thumbsup:
https://i.imgur.com/F9yFth5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0BYsggm.jpg
get the tt wired and your good gary
Raided the spares box,
and made up a groovy DC cable using Ixos power cable I had kicking about, fitted it with an Oyaide DC connector and some good quality screw in banana plugs.
Job 'Jobbed.
https://i.imgur.com/AVnfXvw.jpg
Almost time to plug it all in, cool.
So going from this:
https://i.imgur.com/I7zzQDK.jpg
To this:
https://i.imgur.com/yzID8iT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JBc8FIN.jpg
All powered from balanced mains, so practically no noise floor.
Will stick a good fuse in there too at some point.
So kinda hoping for a difference? :)
Happier at least knowing Im probably getting the most out of the Pro-Ject now, and hopefully a better match for my Turntable.
All cabled and hooked up.
The power supply in the next room, hidden out of sight and sitting at a perfect 18.1V
Interestingly enough the Pro-Ject only pulls 0.17amps when its drawing power?
https://i.imgur.com/4BMDZvD.jpg
Perhaps more when its sending analogue to the preamp, but under 1amp anyway.
So not a big gas guzzler leccy wise, which is cool.
Have this and the Rega's power supply powered up,
will spin a few records tommorow when its all warmed up.
Not a bad change of the system for under £40?
:thumbsup:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G...15F-E14294.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by struth
That's the most realistic blow up doll I've ever seen! :lol:
that is gary dressed as his alter ego.. Cherrie:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Barry
That's pretty funky. I've no need for one but I'm still tempted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Under £40
:thumbsup:
Ha!
You couldn't make this up...
Sat down earlier to play some vinyl and the Pro-Ject croaked on one channel.
Swapped cables over to troubleshoot and yup, the right hand channel died.
Contacted the Seller to let them know,
They have arranged a collection/ swapover via DPD for TOMMOROW
Was on phone to them about an hour ago, just got the Text from DPD for a time to collect tommorow. :eek:
Big shout out to Analogue Seduction
https://www.analogueseduction.net/
For whats maybe the best online shopping Customer Service I've had.
It was 4 days outside the 14 day return window too, they chose not to be arsey and look after their customers.
They said this was the first time they had a return on a Pro-Ject product, and was quite surprised.
These things can happen,
its how they dealt with it that was important.
And im not without my vinyl for any more than a day.
Outstanding Customer Service.
:thumbsup:
new psu maybe??
Plugged in the wall wart, was the same with that Grant.
i meant could the new psu have caused it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Yeah,
cant think why though...
but anythings possible.
Tested PSU before I plugged it in, voltage wasn't running amok and anything hooked up to it only draws the current that it needs.
No "left/right" on the PSU, so would have expected the whole thing to have gone dead if a cap popped or whatever inside it.
The Pro-Ject has seperate circuitry for left/ right, and only one channel is down, so more likely (I reckon) somethings popped in that.
All change tommorow anyway,
so thats good.
Great customer service. I buy a lot of stuff from them.
ive bought a few things from A S too...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo
AS seem to have a lot of gear and accessories that would be difficult to find elsewhere unless you were buying from abroad .
Their prices are not cheap but their service is excellent.
Agree James, can shop around and get a few quid off from Ebay sellers and the like,
but I'm glad I bought the Pro-Ject from AS and not "HifiMan6321551684" on Ebay for £20 less!
Dodged a bullet with the the Pro-Ject
New ones working fine, and next day Collection/delivery too.
No messing about with RMAs, labels or anything.
:thumbsup:
Well done Gary. Proper businesses that actually care about what they're selling and their customers, deserve our custom. Saving a few bob isn't everything.
Spot On Steve.
Had resigned myself to RMA'ing it, waiting for it to go to Pro-Ject for examination, weeks and weeks to go by without a phonostage.
"Sorry 'bout that, we will get DPD to deliver a new one tommorow. Our Apologies again."
Service like that is worth highlighting.
Thats why I support Bricks n Mortar stores when I can,
the service you get from a good dealer, with auditions, loan of equipment before buying and all that good stuff, is worth encouraging.
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Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony
Glad you got sorted quickly Gary. My last purchase took 4 weeks to sort but that was from another dealership. At least it didn’t cost me anything apart from a long wait.
Thanks James.
In other news…
vinyl’s sounding rather terrific :eek:
Postie's Been.
https://i.imgur.com/PlrRfKy.jpg
Another set of my favourite Ghost+ XLR studio cables from the States.
Hooking up the Project Phonostage balanced into the Preamp.
https://i.imgur.com/78gFIhb.jpg
Lets see what this Puppy can do.
looks good, and can only help i'd think gary.
nice one cherrie:ner:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by struth
They really did the business hooking up my amps and Dac, closest to a "straight wire with gain" sound I've had from any cable.
Very transparent and tonally accurate.
Take an AGE to burn in though, so expecting the usual ups n downs.
Not all bad though,
Not long had the Rega Cart rebuilt, so just plug in the cable and let em both run in over time, and just enjoy the records.
:thumbsup:
That's a nice looking cable mate :)
Posted previouly about my Pro-Ject phonostage going linear powered from the balanced mains unit bringing a good improvment.
https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...40#post1350240
Recently moved from Virgin media to BT for broadband,
the BT router was proper "Fibre to the Home" and I found my online TV and Music services had a nice bump in quality over VM.
Lost of folks in Computeraudio land use linear power supplies for their router, and even "Audiophile" switches in their setup.
My BT Router was plugged into the wall using the supplied switch power brick,
me being me I got curious about improving the power supply for that too.
From back in the day I powered my Beresford Caiman dac (Stans suggestion) and later my music servers with Maplin's CB Radio linearpower supplies.
Comes stock at 13.8V for CD radio's but theres a pot inside to let you dial down the voltage to 12V.
Had a couple of these kicking about still, so why not lose the crappy wallwart and use one to power the BT Router, fed directly from balanced mains?
https://cdn.ecommercedns.uk/files/7/...61/xm22ysh.jpg
Unfortunately the BT Router's DC barrel connector isn't a standard variant, and looking in to it was impossible to source, unless from America.
So had to splice the existing connector onto the cable I was using to run from the router, through the wall and on to the Maplins supply hidden away in the next room.
Less than ideal, but is what it is and probably wont make a difference worth worrying about.
(Obviously for safety, the connection was insulated and hidden out of view)
https://i.imgur.com/edJgfow.jpg
The cable I used was Mogami 3103,
2 core 12GA OFC copper, a good solid cable with good specs.
A speaker cable actually, but 12GA cable can handle up to 20amps or so, and the router pulls about 1.5, so was fine.
https://i.imgur.com/KRDCZYd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WeUkw4i.jpg
Cable made up, connected to mains supply and all tested A-OK.
https://i.imgur.com/vKLFwsw.jpg
Connected to Balanced Mains\Maplins psu > BT Router and plugged in.
I've said for ages I found clean power gets the best out your Kit, and like the Pro-Ject phonostage, the supplied switchmode power brick was chucking all sorts of electrical mush into the Mix.
This was VERY worthwhile to do.
Aside CDs and vinyl, all my music and video enters into my system through the BT Router?
As this is my digital "source" my thinking was to reduce noise to that, to get improvements down the equipment chain?
And Yup, very much so. :thumbsup:
A Similar level of improvement to powering the Phonostage linear from the balanced mains.
Noticed it with Apple Music and even Radio Paradise right away, sounded better across the board.
Watching Movies too.
On AppleTV theres a lot of 4K movies in my movie Library and the picture quality, in terms of resolution, contrast and sharpness, took a noticable jump.
Was taken back a few times by it actually, a couple of "Eff Me...!" moments.
It just looked much better and got very close to playing a 4K disc from my Oppo player.
Even YouTube looked better, with a sharper more dynamic picture.
Sound was better watching TV too, everything was placed better and in its own space.
I've done this a few times now,
And all these things are consistent with removing electrical noise from the line, letting the equipment better do its thing.
Good use of a couple of hours,
Cost was £27 for 2m of mogami cable and my time.
Not bad!
Systems took another wee nudge forward, so happy with that.
Something I really must try out, I have a similar psu kicking about.
Good result.
Try plugging one of these in next to your hifi and you will be amazed. I was. You may be amazed at the price too!:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
https://chord.co.uk/product/poweraray-professional/
Hence my Post Alan. :)
Sometimes the small things make a big difference.
This one... wow.
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Originally Posted by Firebottle
https://theartofsound.net/images/smilies/10481.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo
Happily,
running all things Hifi balanced now (and knowing the 'science bit' behind it), I fart in that nonsense's general direction.
Dissapointed in Chord
Mr Watt's... seriously?
(from experience.. knowing Me I'd probably take a Punt on it LOL)
£6000 for a black box without a switch or a light on it and mystical powers. That sounds just up your street Gary:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
To be serious this thing works particularly well with digital equipment, but not so sure of its effect with analogue. I was shocked what it did with my humble digital system. It really was a night and day effect and I was deeply sceptical it would do anything.
This device was from the Chord cable company not Chord electronics so nothing to do with Mr Watts etc.:)
Are 'Chord' and 'Chord Cable' separate businesses? I have tried some Chord cable (something called Tuned ARRY (?)), and found them to be the only RCA phono terminated cables where I could hear a definite, but subtle, difference that was repeatable and distinct.
Like Gary, my system largely uses balanced-line connections. Some of these use cable marked "WWW.CHORD CABLE.COM". Can't say I've noticed any difference between those and other cables using either Klotz, Mogami, EMT, Neumann or Gotham.
Yes Chord electronics and Chord Cables are separate businesses.
I have tried many of Chord cables top end ICs (RCA) and some are definitely very good indeed but unfortunately too expensive for my wallet!
Chord cable company was started by the wife of a Naim employee, back before Naim realised there was big profits in cables.
No connection at all with Chord Electronics.
Ah - thanks for that James. One other question are the Chord Cables made in China, or are they European?
Going back to the Tuned ARRY (?) cables, they were on loan from someone who used Naim equipment, cost a couple of hundred quid, so we couldn't open them up to see how they were made. But we did have them x-rayed. They use two separate coaxial cables, wired 'shotgun', with the screens connected together at one end only, which makes them directional. We tried to duplicate the construction, but with limited success.
Thanks Martin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
I would have thought Chord themselves would have had something to say over possible confusion with the name of their company.
Interestingly when I typed in "www.chordcable.com" into Google, I got nothing.
https://chord.co.uk/Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
The cables I have are marked: WWW.CHORDCABLE.COM , along with arrows suggesting they are directional.
I suspect they are Chinese. Got them from a recording studio terminated in XLRs, along with a pile of other cables, all for about a fiver, so shouldn't complain.
I doubt I will ever buy another cable.
Ah Ha...
I did not know that.
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Originally Posted by Macca