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Pigmy Pony
07-12-2021, 21:16
If you had the virus and have since been jabbed (as I have). You may be better protected.
Interesting reports:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/omicron-wuhan-b970416.html
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-previous-infection-and-vaccination-combine-for-best-protection-against-variants-12489031
I would be surprised if that weren't the case. Surely nothing can give better immunity than the real thing?
Stryder5
07-12-2021, 21:45
If you had the virus and have since been jabbed (as I have). You may be better protected.
Interesting reports:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/omicron-wuhan-b970416.html
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-previous-infection-and-vaccination-combine-for-best-protection-against-variants-12489031
These reports are interesting only in that they are full of ifs, maybe, perhaps etc. the reality being they don’t know.
They say the jabs may not be effective in the latest (sic) variant, but are pushing the “booster” jab.
You really cannot make this plandemic anything other than a fairy story to scare people into submission.
There are similar activities in history.
Gary
walpurgis
08-12-2021, 07:32
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-12-08/hardcore-vaccine-refuseniks-could-need-deradicalising-like-terrorists-expert
Pigmy Pony
08-12-2021, 07:44
So are they saying Hilary Clinton isn't a reptilian shapeshifter? I'm not having that
Stryder5
08-12-2021, 09:20
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-12-08/hardcore-vaccine-refuseniks-could-need-deradicalising-like-terrorists-expert
A “holiday camp” like Prora could be built. Of course the Germans with their current separatist program could reinstate Prora........or......new idea, build a wall, unvaccinated on one side.....there is history here!
Gary
A “holiday camp” like Prora could be built. Of course the Germans with their current separatist program could reinstate Prora........or......new idea, build a wall, unvaccinated on one side.....there is history here!
Gary
They can't reinstate Prora, it's already been sold and mostly re-developed.
Stryder5
08-12-2021, 12:31
They can't reinstate Prora, it's already been sold and mostly re-developed.
It was a fraction of Prora (building 2) that was redeveloped along its 1.9 mile structure, the developer I believe has now gone bust.
Gary
It was a fraction of Prora (building 2) that was redeveloped along its 1.9 mile structure, the developer I believe has now gone bust.
Gary
I read that most of the blocks have been completely refurbished and sold. Just checked and the Wikipedia entry seems to suggest that's near enough true.
The Prora Solitaire hotel in Block 2 opened in time for summer 2016, and some reconstructed flats were for sale in that Block by mid 2017. At that time, four of the buildings were in the process of redevelopment, a fifth was used as a youth hostel while the remaining three remained in ruins.[4][11][12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prora
you wouldn't fancy it there anyway, it's a bit nippy in the winter ;)
was a ghastly place in its day and after when the commies had it. 20k beds... sends shivers
Just a very big Pontins really.
'Kraft durch Freude, campers!'
Just a very big Pontins really.
'Kraft durch Freude, campers!'
a fairly big town, all on the one block. town planning gone mad.;)
Stryder5
08-12-2021, 14:07
I read that most of the blocks have been completely refurbished and sold. Just checked and the Wikipedia entry seems to suggest that's near enough true.
The Prora Solitaire hotel in Block 2 opened in time for summer 2016, and some reconstructed flats were for sale in that Block by mid 2017. At that time, four of the buildings were in the process of redevelopment, a fifth was used as a youth hostel while the remaining three remained in ruins.[4][11][12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prora
you wouldn't fancy it there anyway, it's a bit nippy in the winter ;)
Wikipedia is not a reliable source, but I can understand it’s use, 2017 seems to be the limit of its information though, nothing since.
There would be nothing to stop the German Government pulling Prura back into state control.
Gary
I suppose not. Not very likely though.
Stryder5
08-12-2021, 15:42
a fairly big town, all on the one block. town planning gone mad.;)
There was a very interesting programme on TV recently, I think it was called “Abandoned Engineering” it mentioned Prora and its development and planning.
It also talked about Pripyat, the town nearest to Chernobyl was built to be one of the most beautiful and luxurious cities in the Soviet Union. It’s design and openness was thankfully the reason why the evacuation could be so quick after the disaster at No 4 reactor.
Gary
plan b from outer space enacted for england. i expect the devolved nations will follow. work from home, wear masks and use of certificates
Stryder5
08-12-2021, 19:35
plan b from outer space enacted for england. i expect the devolved nations will follow. work from home, wear masks and use of certificates
And don’t forget your boosters, we’ve bought them so we have to use them. We know they may not be effective against Omicron but hey ho, we have to ensure the NHS is busy so we can promote it being overwhelmed. Treat Covid patients, f*ck the rest that are dying.
Gary
Pigmy Pony
08-12-2021, 19:59
And don’t forget your boosters, we’ve bought them so we have to use them. We know they may not be effective against Omicron but hey ho, we have to ensure the NHS is busy so we can promote it being overwhelmed. Treat Covid patients, f*ck the rest that are dying.
Gary
I thought the idea behind the vaccination booster programme was in the (possibly vain) hope that fewer Covid patients will need treatment. As has been said, it may not be effective against Omicron, but what else is there? Maybe I'm just being naive, I am sometimes. We should know better by the end of winter.
Stryder5
08-12-2021, 20:27
I thought the idea behind the vaccination booster programme was in the (possibly vain) hope that fewer Covid patients will need treatment. As has been said, it may not be effective against Omicron, but what else is there? Maybe I'm just being naive, I am sometimes. We should know better by the end of winter.
There are a few issues:-
GP’s are still virtually closed, so people who would normally go to them when they start to feel ill, for whatever reason, can’t. So they get worse potentially. Maybe hospitalised!
GP’s are now being paid extra to give boosters, less availability for normal patients. Maybe hospitalised!
So we’re stacking up ill people to Save the NHS......really!
We now have some 8 million people awaiting hospital treatment that has been put off, they’re probably getting worse with possibility of death. Some 400+ people die of heart related issues each day, 400+ people die of cancer each day.
We test people for Covid and if they test positive they’re told to isolate, no treatment. Go home and wait, if you get really ill go to hospital.
I have no perception, trace of logic or reasoning for what we are currently undergoing. For a virus with 0.02% fatality
Gary
too early to tell with Omicron. All I've seen so far are predictions ranging from 'It's a very mild form' to 'This is it, we're all going to die.'
Pigmy Pony
08-12-2021, 20:58
There are a few issues:-
GP’s are still virtually closed, so people who would normally go to them when they start to feel ill, for whatever reason, can’t. So they get worse potentially. Maybe hospitalised!
GP’s are now being paid extra to give boosters, less availability for normal patients. Maybe hospitalised!
So we’re stacking up ill people to Save the NHS......really!
We now have some 8 million people awaiting hospital treatment that has been put off, they’re probably getting worse with possibility of death. Some 400+ people die of heart related issues each day, 400+ people die of cancer each day.
We test people for Covid and if they test positive they’re told to isolate, no treatment. Go home and wait, if you get really ill go to hospital.
I have no perception, trace of logic or reasoning for what we are currently undergoing. For a virus with 0.02% fatality
Gary
Hard to argue with those points Gary, and I should say that while my first and second jabs were at a "centre" set up for that purpose, my booster was at a GP's surgery.
I also know that people are waiting an age for non-urgent procedures/ops, and I'm one of them, waiting since May to have a benign skin cancer sorted.
But what is really bad is that my younger brother noticed a lump on his neck a couple of months ago, but didn't have much of a wait for a biopsy. Three and a half weeks passed and he thought "Hey, no news is good news", but his partner (a nurse) told him to chase it up. Turns out to be throat cancer.
I wonder how long he would have ended up waiting if his other half hadn't told him to be a squeaky wheel.
It would appear that someone had sat on his results for three weeks, and the latest specialist he has seen said it would have been better if they'd caught it sooner, as it has grown to a point where it is dangerously near his spine and so surgery is too risky. So it's radiation and Chemo time. I'm sure that if this was 2 years ago things would have shaped up better.
Stryder5
08-12-2021, 21:55
too early to tell with Omicron. All I've seen so far are predictions ranging from 'It's a very mild form' to 'This is it, we're all going to die.'
You’re right, give hope.....take it away!
Well documented psychological tool.
Gary
Stryder5
08-12-2021, 22:09
Hard to argue with those points Gary, and I should say that while my first and second jabs were at a "centre" set up for that purpose, my booster was at a GP's surgery.
I also know that people are waiting an age for non-urgent procedures/ops, and I'm one of them, waiting since May to have a benign skin cancer sorted.
But what is really bad is that my younger brother noticed a lump on his neck a couple of months ago, but didn't have much of a wait for a biopsy. Three and a half weeks passed and he thought "Hey, no news is good news", but his partner (a nurse) told him to chase it up. Turns out to be throat cancer.
I wonder how long he would have ended up waiting if his other half hadn't told him to be a squeaky wheel.
It would appear that someone had sat on his results for three weeks, and the latest specialist he has seen said it would have been better if they'd caught it sooner, as it has grown to a point where it is dangerously near his spine and so surgery is too risky. So it's radiation and Chemo time. I'm sure that if this was 2 years ago things would have shaped up better.
I have sympathy for you, your brother and the millions of others that are put in this position.
A man made issue from Gain of Function experiments, banned from the USA but funded from the USA to a Chinese lab. No ones investigating, no blame. Result virtual world paralysis. No answers!
Gary
Mikeandvan
09-12-2021, 00:27
When's my sense of smell gonna return? I miss the scent of my dogs ears. Dismayed by the new lockdown advice given by Boris & Co. I have the virus, I had my first jab back in May, I'm glad I did, as you do hear about the odd extreme case of death in some unvaccinated younger/healthy people, their super healthy immune systems go into overdrive. I say jab, jab, jab again, you lockdown if you want to, but this ladies not for locking. It's bad enough having to self isolate for 10 days, I couldn't face another lockdown, I need to go out every day. I also hate fuss, and having to book tables/venues etc, and stupid fucking waiters pointed temperature guns at your head. Just get the jab and get on with life! This is not the fucking 1920s! I got so bored last night I drank 4 beers and a bottle of red, I woke this morning and to quote Withnail 'feel like a pig has shat in my head'. Still, I'm glad I STILL haven't suffered this common side effect of Cpvid, as reported in 50% of cases. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0FnfGblLr8
Stryder5
09-12-2021, 09:57
When's my sense of smell gonna return? I miss the scent of my dogs ears. Dismayed by the new lockdown advice given by Boris & Co. I have the virus, I had my first jab back in May, I'm glad I did, as you do hear about the odd extreme case of death in some unvaccinated younger/healthy people, their super healthy immune systems go into overdrive. I say jab, jab, jab again, you lockdown if you want to, but this ladies not for locking. It's bad enough having to self isolate for 10 days, I couldn't face another lockdown, I need to go out every day. I also hate fuss, and having to book tables/venues etc, and stupid fucking waiters pointed temperature guns at your head. Just get the jab and get on with life! This is not the fucking 1920s! I got so bored last night I drank 4 beers and a bottle of red, I woke this morning and to quote Withnail 'feel like a pig has shat in my head'. Still, I'm glad I STILL haven't suffered this common side effect of Cpvid, as reported in 50% of cases. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0FnfGblLr8
They’re keeping this side effect very quiet, but if this happened live on MSM it would be claimed that underlying conditions were the cause......
Probably piles :D
Gary
walpurgis
11-12-2021, 15:23
Covid out of control now.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
I've not seen anything done in the shops to deter those who won't wear masks.
Pigmy Pony
11-12-2021, 15:45
Covid out of control now.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
I've not seen anything done in the shops to deter those who won't wear masks.
I suppose all they can do is put up signs. If folk are going to be arsey enough to refuse mask wearing they're best avoided. I feel sorry for shop staff, it shouldn't be their job to police this.
Perhaps coppers should make random visits to shops and slap fines on offenders, or is it not yet against the law?
Stryder5
11-12-2021, 15:58
Where is all the information from the Government on how to wear a mask correctly, I’ve seen nothing on either local or national media, lots of information on how to open your windows to let the virus out.....lol
Gary
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Pigmy Pony
11-12-2021, 16:13
I imagine many folk will assume just wearing one is all that's needed... and some would just not be arsed to wear them correctly. But the information should still be put out there.
I'll admit to being a bit lax over this, but time to up my game is past due. Or just avoid shops, that's the safest bet.
Stryder5
11-12-2021, 16:21
I imagine many folk will assume just wearing one is all that's needed... and some would just not be arsed to wear them correctly. But the information should still be put out there.
I'll admit to being a bit lax over this, but time to up my game is past due. Or just avoid shops, that's the safest bet.
But why isn’t the Government majoring on this, begs the question does the Science tell them how to make the masks effective, and the answer is yes. The WHO has outlined exactly this.
It seems the Government can pick and choose which science it wants to follow.
For whatever reason!
Gary
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Pierre De Grenoble
11-12-2021, 20:52
But why isn’t the Government majoring on this, begs the question does the Science tell them how to make the masks effective, and the answer is yes. The WHO has outlined exactly this.
It seems the Government can pick and choose which science it wants to follow.
For whatever reason!
Gary
maybe people should just make the effort, better if its done correctly, but incorrectly is better than nothing, for those around them. I see far too many people making the effort to prove a point by not wearing one at all. I kinda hope they are gonna join the 4 out of 5 unvaxed in intensive care. IMHO
Stryder5
11-12-2021, 20:59
Incorrectly isn’t better, handling the mask incorrectly transfers any contamination from the hands to anything being touched.
Why would you wish harm on the unvaccinated? Transmission of the virus still occurs from vaccinated, indeed there is some evidence that viral load can be higher in vaccinated people.
Gary
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early details from s africa show that omicrom may well be less severe than the other forms, although very transmissible.
maybe people should just make the effort, better if its done correctly, but incorrectly is better than nothing, for those around them. I see far too many people making the effort to prove a point by not wearing one at all. I kinda hope they are gonna join the 4 out of 5 unvaxed in intensive care. IMHO
yeah, even if it helps a bit then it is better than nothing. some folk also cant wear it properly due to health issues. not wearing just because you dont want to is just plain wrong.
Pierre De Grenoble
12-12-2021, 05:54
yeah, even if it helps a bit then it is better than nothing. some folk also cant wear it properly due to health issues. not wearing just because you dont want to is just plain wrong.
smallpox was a nasty.. but was eliminated in the 60's and 70's by a worldwide vaccination program. There was no internet then of course, so no conspiracy theorists, anti vaxers etc etc.
smallpox was a nasty.. but was eliminated in the 60's and 70's by a worldwide vaccination program. There was no internet then of course, so no conspiracy theorists, anti vaxers etc etc.Interesting article this. Shows Darwin was right.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/11/why-uncontrolled-hiv-may-be-behind-the-emergence-of-omicron
Stryder5
12-12-2021, 10:04
smallpox was a nasty.. but was eliminated in the 60's and 70's by a worldwide vaccination program. There was no internet then of course, so no conspiracy theorists, anti vaxers etc etc.
And a test was necessary to let you know you had smallpox!
Gary
And a test was necessary to let you know you had smallpox!
Gary
Because smallpox did not have a asymptomatic carrier state. That's not true of all viruses though, and it's not the case with Covid 19.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10306211/DR-ANGELIQUE-COETZEE-alerted-wider-world-Omicron-believe-Britain-overreacting.html
https://www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus/135396/omicron-is-less-severe-than-delta-variant-and-two-pfizer-vaccine-jabs-give-good-protection-major-study-suggests
Pierre De Grenoble
14-12-2021, 23:05
OPINION - Anne McElvoy: The unvaccinated have become a lethal liability we can ill-afford (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/opinion-anne-mcelvoy-the-unvaccinated-have-become-a-lethal-liability-we-can-ill-afford/ar-AARNIsA?ocid=msedgntp)
walpurgis
15-12-2021, 17:40
As I said the other day, Covid appears to be out of control. Nearly 80,000 new infections reported today and goodness knows how many undiagnosed. Will we be in lockdown for Christmas I wonder?
As I said the other day, Covid appears to be out of control. Nearly 80,000 new infections reported today and goodness knows how many undiagnosed. Will we be in lockdown for Christmas I wonder?
yes big increase. dont have breakdown nationally by scotland had about 5k+ but from over 60k tests but the % was lower than when it was only 3k.. at 9%+. so lots of folk got it but even more went for tests when they didnt. panic!??
can only wait a few weeks to see what effect is down line. my area has jumped to top of scottish league alas. epademic in my locale. i had a fpp3 mask on yesterday when guy was fitting my charger. 5 bloody hrs and it was on for most of that and door open too.lol trying to take no chances.
Pigmy Pony
15-12-2021, 19:36
As I said the other day, Covid appears to be out of control. Nearly 80,000 new infections reported today and goodness knows how many undiagnosed. Will we be in lockdown for Christmas I wonder?
Probably not, but I'd be surprised if something isn't done come New Year. We may as well just stay at home with a few layers and a woolly hat, because we can't afford to do bugger all anyway.
Inflation is reportedly at five point something percent, but just about everything I have to pay for has gone up by more like 20% easily. I also heard that secondhand motors prices have gone through the roof, so maybe I'll sell on my van at a profit and hibernate with the profit :)
walpurgis
17-12-2021, 16:45
Over 93,000 new cases today!
Pigmy Pony
17-12-2021, 19:36
That's quarter of a million in just three days! Population of Chorley x 6 :eek: At this rate a lockdown won't be necessary, everyone will be at home with Covid anyway
Perhaps a big step forward.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/antibodies-omicron-variant-identified-delta-b1984203.html
Pierre De Grenoble
30-12-2021, 17:50
Perhaps a big step forward.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/antibodies-omicron-variant-identified-delta-b1984203.html
I'd like to thank so Grant, I really would, my daughter is positive today ( vaccinated etc ) not expecting problems but even so..
the sad thing is that even if some some sort of all conquering vaccine could be developed based on this, there's far too many internet conspiracists out there who'll try to fuck it up for the rest of the world.
Pierre De Grenoble
30-12-2021, 17:53
and just in case there's any confusion my definition of an an internet conspirator = :wanker:
I'd like to thank so Grant, I really would, my daughter is positive today ( vaccinated etc ) not expecting problems but even so..
the sad thing is that even if some some sort of all conquering vaccine could be developed based on this, there's far too many internet conspiracists out there who'll try to fuck it up for the rest of the world.
alas if you get too deeply involved with conspiricies, it appears you often never change. sad but such is much of internet life. still, i will be keeping my things x=ed and hope something positive can come from it. its such a struggle avoiding it now and my health has fell away dramatically of late. chances of even getting a doctors appointment is so low that actually getting sorted in hospital is pretty close to zero.
so i get worse alas.. i hope they are proud of themselves
walpurgis
30-12-2021, 18:02
there's far too many internet conspiracists out there who'll try to fuck it up for the rest of the world.
I agree. It's criminal the way some try to dupe others. I have a friend who believes all the anti-vaccination scare mongering, he's over 70, has Lymphoma, stents in his heart and Diabetes, but refuses to get jabbed! I've told him several times he will almost certainly die if Covid strikes him down. For him even a milder post vax infection would be dodgy.
Pierre De Grenoble
30-12-2021, 18:05
i hope they are proud of themselves
The sad thing Grant is that the losers ARE proud of themselves.
I hope things become easier for you.
Pigmy Pony
30-12-2021, 18:07
I don't think I've seen any evidence of conspiracy theories affecting policy decisions, so it is just down to us - as long as we keep a sane head and dismiss their daftness, we should be ok. Despite the current high case numbers I'm still optimistic about our future.
Pierre De Grenoble
30-12-2021, 18:11
I don't think I've seen any evidence of conspiracy theories affecting policy decisions, so it is just down to us - as long as we keep a sane head and dismiss their daftness, we should be ok. Despite the current high case numbers I'm still optimistic about our future.
The policy decision is to go get your jabs.. the conspiracy result is that 4 out of 5 in intensive care are unjabbed. ( assuming there's no worse figures available since that number was last broadcast)
Pierre De Grenoble
30-12-2021, 18:14
Despite the current high case numbers I'm still optimistic about our future.
I'd love to be optimistic Steve, I'm reduced to pragmatic... :brickwall:
Was just reading this report (https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/Cases-and-Deaths-by-Vaccination-Status-11082021.pdf) from the Texas Department of State Health Services examining data from Jan. 15 to Oct. 1.
"Of the nearly 29,000 covid-linked fatalities in Texas during that period, more than 85 percent were of unvaccinated individuals. Nearly 7 percent of the deaths were among partially vaccinated people, while nearly 8 percent were fully vaccinated."
Not sure there's much more to say than that. Had my booster this afternoon. No idea what's in it. Any more than I have any idea of what's really in the food I will be eating for dinner, or the bottle of wine I've just opened.
Was just reading this report (https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/Cases-and-Deaths-by-Vaccination-Status-11082021.pdf) from the Texas Department of State Health Services examining data from Jan. 15 to Oct. 1.
"Of the nearly 29,000 covid-linked fatalities in Texas during that period, more than 85 percent were of unvaccinated individuals. Nearly 7 percent of the deaths were among partially vaccinated people, while nearly 8 percent were fully vaccinated."
Not sure there's much more to say than that. Had my booster this afternoon. No idea what's in it. Any more than I have any idea of what's really in the food I will be eating for dinner, or the bottle of wine I've just opened.
Similar here.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/29/up-90-covid-patients-icu-unboosted-boris-johnson
Mikeandvan
01-01-2022, 13:09
Just discovered a 1975 BBC fictional series called 'Survivors', about a deadly pandemic, which was accidentally released by a Chinese scientist and quickly spread across the world via air travel. Only 1 in 5000 have natural immunity from it, the 'survivors'. Somewhat uncanny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch7N7KCn778
walpurgis
01-01-2022, 13:24
I remember the series. It was grim!
I watched it when it was first on, it was pretty good.
BBC did a remake about ten years ago which is terrible.
ive got original series' on dvd. i quite like it although its typical middle class bull.
Mikeandvan
01-01-2022, 17:53
Watch the opening credits though with the Chinese scientist, how could have got it so right!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch7N7KCn778
its almost certain it was just fate that 2 animals passed it to eachother and it jumped species. the lab leak is 99% wrong. some folk just wanting to lay blame at China's door; and alas China behave in such a way as to make it look like they are hiding it. Alas China try to hide all their dirty laundry so its hard to believe a word they say.
Mikeandvan
01-01-2022, 19:47
its almost certain it was just fate that 2 animals passed it to eachother and it jumped species. the lab leak is 99% wrong. some folk just wanting to lay blame at China's door; and alas China behave in such a way as to make it look like they are hiding it. Alas China try to hide all their dirty laundry so its hard to believe a word they say.
I'm not saying it was a lab made virus, but the fault is China's alone, either in 'wet market' practices, or something else. I wonder why the writer of 'Survivors' chose a Chinese scientist though?
Mikeandvan
02-01-2022, 01:05
On episode 11 now, the dramatic tension is very good. Class antagonism seems to be a main theme.
On episode 11 now, the dramatic tension is very good. Class antagonism seems to be a main theme.
the working class are mostly selfish and uncaring/stupid while the middle classes are all trying to do whats right.:D still youve gotta laugh;)
Mikeandvan
02-01-2022, 19:16
the working class are mostly selfish and uncaring/stupid while the middle classes are all trying to do whats right.:D still youve gotta laugh;)
You remember it well! The character of the barber was typical of this, bungling, and as you say selfish. There is one competent working class character though - Paul - he has a lot of farming knowledge, and the show explicitly shows him upstaging the rest of the cast as he lambasts them on their attempts at growing veg. Though there are a few digs at the upper classes too. As ever the middle professional classes win the day.
walpurgis
06-01-2022, 08:52
I see Novak Djokovic has had his Australian visa cancelled and is detained awaiting deportation. He won't be playing tennis! Regardless of whether one agrees with vaccination or not, it takes some arrogance to assume one can breeze into a country that has been battling to keep Covid down and claim 'natural immunity'. To paraphrase Scott Morrison, "There is no special status!"
I see Novak Djokovic has had his Australian visa cancelled and is detained awaiting deportation. He won't be playing tennis! Regardless of whether one agrees with vaccination or not, it takes some arrogance to assume one can breeze into a country that has been battling to keep Covid down and claim 'natural immunity'. To paraphrase Scott Morrison, "There is no special status!"
inclined to agree. although in this case its been politicized out of need to calm the natives and get some votes.
I see Novak Djokovic has had his Australian visa cancelled and is detained awaiting deportation. He won't be playing tennis! Regardless of whether one agrees with vaccination or not, it takes some arrogance to assume one can breeze into a country that has been battling to keep Covid down and claim 'natural immunity'. To paraphrase Scott Morrison, "There is no special status!"
The tennis star has a track record when it comes to questionable scientific claims.
In his book Serve to Win, Djokovic described how in 2010 he met with a nutritionist who asked him to hold a piece of bread in his left hand while he pressed down on his right arm. Djokovic claims he was much weaker while holding the bread, and cited this as evidence of gluten intolerance.
And during an Instagram live, he claimed that positive thought could "cleanse" polluted water, adding that "scientists have proven that molecules in water react to our emotions."
deary me...:doh:
Pierre De Grenoble
06-01-2022, 18:36
I see Novak Djokovic has had his Australian visa cancelled and is detained awaiting deportation. He won't be playing tennis! Regardless of whether one agrees with vaccination or not, it takes some arrogance to assume one can breeze into a country that has been battling to keep Covid down and claim 'natural immunity'. To paraphrase Scott Morrison, "There is no special status!"
more than agree a little.. to be fair I'm coming to the conclusion that the great unwashed ( sorry unvaccinated ) should be banned from public activity as has been suggested by France etc. everybody is entitled to a choice but that choice shouldn't be allowed to effect me and mine.
walpurgis
06-01-2022, 18:41
Next month unvaccinated over 50's in Italy will face large fines. Not entirely surprising considering the death toll when the virus first hit there.
indeed... our bins didnt get emptied today so i guess the cleansing have been shut down by covid. why dont folk just wise up
walpurgis
06-01-2022, 19:13
indeed... our bins didnt get emptied today so i guess the cleansing have been shut down by covid. why dont folk just wise up
My bin was emptied today, it was due to be done the past Monday. They must be well down on crews.
I bet they still all got paid though, Payroll department clearly not all off sick then. And they managed to collect the money for my Council Tax as usual.
Funny the things that can and can't be done due to covid.
Rearrange schedules and put all the positive testing bin men on the same wagon - easy peasy :dance:
Pigmy Pony
06-01-2022, 20:36
Rearrange schedules and put all the positive testing bin men on the same wagon - easy peasy :dance:
That's the kind of smart thinking that will never get you a job with the council. Never mind, have one of these :clapclapclap:
Pigmy Pony
06-01-2022, 20:41
I see Novak Djokovic has had his Australian visa cancelled and is detained awaiting deportation. He won't be playing tennis! Regardless of whether one agrees with vaccination or not, it takes some arrogance to assume one can breeze into a country that has been battling to keep Covid down and claim 'natural immunity'. To paraphrase Scott Morrison, "There is no special status!"
Australia seem to have a history of "You come into our country, you do things our way or f__k off". And quite right too. We could learn from them.
ER doctor in USA.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/omicron-covid-symptoms-vaccine-status-b1991945.html
If you want a new girlfriend..
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/13/face-masks-make-people-look-more-attractive-study-finds
walpurgis
13-01-2022, 19:23
If you want a new girlfriend..
I'm trying to give them up. They just cost you money and get you in all kinds of trouble.:D
and you don't want to catch Covid in pregnancy, as its linked to birth-related complications.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59986452
Pierre De Grenoble
13-01-2022, 19:31
This hospital is 20 or so miles up the road from me...
Intensive care doctor says every Covid patient currently in his hospital’s ICU is unvaccinated (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/intensive-care-doctor-says-every-covid-patient-currently-in-his-hospital-s-icu-is-unvaccinated/ar-AASFTAI?ocid=msedgntp)
local infection rates seem to be dropping quite fast but I wonder how many people are doing flow tests and then not registering the result or getting a PCR
Pierre De Grenoble
13-01-2022, 19:40
and you don't want to catch Covid in pregnancy, as its linked to birth-related complications.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59986452
I better keep taking the pill then....... :D
Pigmy Pony
13-01-2022, 20:26
Don't worry about me, I look pregnant, but I'm not really :)
Is that because of the rosy glow of your complexion?
Or the cravings for strange foods at all hours :drool: ?
Or the cravings for strange foods at all hours :drool: ?
What's wrong with liking custard on fish fingers?
Pigmy Pony
14-01-2022, 07:32
Or the cravings for strange foods at all hours :drool: ?
Pregnant shape - beer
Rosy glow - beer
Cravings for strange foods at all hours - getting home really late after lots of beer
And there's nothing that can't be improved with custard :)
Now you really have gone too far - beer and custard:eek:
Pigmy Pony
14-01-2022, 16:18
Now you really have gone too far - beer and custard:eek:
You can't have beer mixed with custard, that would be awful! No, you have the custard in a separate pot, to dip your cheese 'n' onion crisps into :drool:
You can't have beer mixed with custard, that would be awful! No, you have the custard in a separate pot, to dip your cheese 'n' onion crisps into :drool:
Life up North is just a mystery to these southerners.
Life up North is just a mystery to these southerners.
its a mystery to many up nath too:D
You can't have beer mixed with custard, that would be awful! No, you have the custard in a separate pot, to dip your cheese 'n' onion crisps into :drool:
That makes sense - salt 'n' vinegar for me though :)
Pigmy Pony
15-01-2022, 17:05
That makes sense - salt 'n' vinegar for me though :)
Me too, I only said cheese 'n' onion because I thought that would be the popular choice.
Even better than crisps are Pringles (if your guests are worth the extra outlay), their superior structural integrity copes with even the thickest of custard :) And I bet you thought dinner parties were more of a southern thing.
well parties are southern... most seem to happen in an area around downing st;)
And I bet you thought dinner parties were more of a southern thing.
The only difference is we southerners dress for dinner (black tie). :D
Pigmy Pony
15-01-2022, 18:11
We too dress for dinner, nothing kills your appetite more than sitting next to some hairy sweaty naked bloke. But not black tie - needs to be colourful as possible, to hide the gravy/curry sauce/custard stains.
Pigmy Pony
15-01-2022, 18:14
well parties are southern... most seem to happen in an area around downing st;)
I bet the 70% that didn't take up their invitation are feeling pretty smug/relieved now...
I wonder who split? I guess it is currently being chased down.
He won't resign unless made to. He has no shame
Well, I watch the news pretty much every night, and Question Time on Thursday for as long as I can remember, and I have to fully agree with Boris that this was a work event - and one that would require wine - there’s no way you’d go out for a night with any politician for “fun” and certainly not sober!
a lot of fuss about nothing, as usual.
hifi_dave
16-01-2022, 11:29
I wonder who split? I guess it is currently being chased down.
He won't resign unless made to. He has no shame
Has Dominic Cummings all over it.
Pigmy Pony
16-01-2022, 12:18
a lot of fuss about nothing, as usual.
Well it's nothing to you and me as we've not been affected personally, but to those folk who were kept away from their sick and dying relatives, understandably not nothing.
I really don't care if he stays or goes, nothing will change.
Well it's nothing to you and me as we've not been affected personally, but to those folk who were kept away from their sick and dying relatives, understandably not nothing.
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They weren't kept away from parties though, and it's not like Boris got to see his sick and dying relatives when everyone else couldn't. If that had happened, different matter.
Pigmy Pony
16-01-2022, 13:31
They weren't kept away from parties though, and it's not like Boris got to see his sick and dying relatives when everyone else couldn't. If that had happened, different matter.
I see what you're saying, but when Fred Bloggs thinks about Boris and his chinless mates doing a Conga round No.10's back garden while he'd watched his dying mum through a glass screen, his emotions are taking charge and logic won't come into it.
If Boris has to go, I suggest Larry as possibly the best qualified replacement. He's been round the block a few times and will know what's what :)
well like you say it doesn't really matter to us, stay or go. Can't see him going over this without being pushed and that's up to the Tory party donors.
Not sure they will be so quick to dump him, he did win a big majority for them and it's a long time to the next election, people will have different concerns by then.
Possible good news from a reliable Source.
Here's hoping.
https://youtu.be/U3W84wb5jKo
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/16/italian-nurse-accused-of-giving-fake-covid-jabs-to-anti-vaxxers
Another Italian nurse caught giving fake jabs and issuing certificates to anti vaxxers for money. Quite lucrative too at 3/400 a pop.
walpurgis
16-01-2022, 16:47
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/16/italian-nurse-accused-of-giving-fake-covid-jabs-to-anti-vaxxers
Another Italian nurse caught giving fake jabs and issuing certificates to anti vaxxers for money. Quite lucrative too at 3/400 a pop.
The dodgers should be put to work on a Covid ward.
The dodgers should be put to work on a Covid ward.
not sure the patients would agree:ner:
Novak Djokovic got deported after all.. political as it was, he still was at the madam and ive no sympathy for him.
walpurgis
16-01-2022, 18:19
Novak Djokovic got deported after all.. political as it was, he still was at the madam and ive no sympathy for him.
He knew the score. If he'd arrived in time to quarantine for a couple of weeks instead of trying to wangle things on his vague and undeclared vaccine status he'd have had no bother.
He knew the score. If he'd arrived in time to quarantine for a couple of weeks instead of trying to wangle things on his vague and undeclared vaccine status he'd have had no bother.
yup, sadly he thought he was more important than any countries laws. as other players said, he should just have got the jab or not gone. simple.
walpurgis
16-01-2022, 18:45
Is he a Tory? They don't seem to think rules apply either. :)
no idea tbh. dont know much about him other than being serbian. he will be closer to right than left im sure tho. populist party is in power, so think boris:D
Common theme in quite a few news items:
Novak Djokovic; thinks he is special/privileged and doesn't have to follow rules
Boris and mates; think they are special/privileged and don't have to follow rules
Andrew Windsor: has been told that he is special/privileged and doesn't have to follow rules (hesitate to use "thinks" in this case :))
Pigmy Pony
17-01-2022, 18:21
Novak Djokovic got deported after all.. political as it was, he still was at the madam and ive no sympathy for him.
Me neither. And about time too, I'm sick of watching him kissing his trophy every time the news is on.
Strange; my wife tested positive four days ago (she says if we didn't have COVID, she would just think that she had a "head cold"), I'm still testing negative and feeling fine (apart from usual old age knee pains).
Pigmy Pony
18-01-2022, 07:10
Strange; my wife tested positive four days ago (she says if we didn't have COVID, she would just think that she had a "head cold"), I'm still testing negative and feeling fine (apart from usual old age knee pains).
It was the same for us two weeks ago. Anita tested positive, having caught it presumably from her son who had stayed a couple of days. Despite him being double jabbed + booster, this is the third time he's had it. I call him the medical marvel, along with several other less flattering names (like lazy selfish freeloading shitbag with a beard that looks stupid).
Anyway, Anita's symptoms were just a headaches and feeling a bit ropey for a couple of days, and she is what is classed as high risk. After about a week she started getting negative test results. And in all that time I stayed negative.
I'm not kidding myself that I'm Covid-proof, but I do think that the vaccines have made all the difference.
It was the same for us two weeks ago. Anita tested positive, having caught it presumably from her son who had stayed a couple of days. Despite him being double jabbed + booster, this is the third time he's had it. I call him the medical marvel, along with several other less flattering names (like lazy selfish freeloading shitbag with a beard that looks stupid).
Anyway, Anita's symptoms were just a headaches and feeling a bit ropey for a couple of days, and she is what is classed as high risk. After about a week she started getting negative test results. And in all that time I stayed negative.
I'm not kidding myself that I'm Covid-proof, but I do think that the vaccines have made all the difference.
Love the description - it just flows beautifully :lol:
Same here regarding vaccines making all the difference.
I have been wondering whether I should do my usual cycle to the pub on Friday if I continue testing negative? I think that technically I can, but I would hate to think that I pass it on to someone (if that is possible while testing negative ?)
walpurgis
18-01-2022, 08:57
Strange; my wife tested positive four days ago
As did one of my grand daughters after feeling unwell for a few days. I'll phone later today and see how she is. She's 18 and had two jabs.
As did one of my grand daughters after feeling unwell for a few days. I'll phone later today and see how she is. She's 18 and had two jabs.
i hope she is doing ok geoff...
As did one of my grand daughters after feeling unwell for a few days. I'll phone later today and see how she is. She's 18 and had two jabs.
I hope she is ok - horrible seeing children or grandchildren sick, just feel helpless
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/59870550
Sovereign citizens?
nocebo effect?
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/jan/18/nocebo-effect-two-thirds-of-covid-jab-reactions-not-caused-by-vaccine-study-suggests
rmcin626
18-01-2022, 18:39
Reduced restrictions in Scotland from Monday
Pigmy Pony
18-01-2022, 18:41
Love the description - it just flows beautifully :lol:
Same here regarding vaccines making all the difference.
I have been wondering whether I should do my usual cycle to the pub on Friday if I continue testing negative? I think that technically I can, but I would hate to think that I pass it on to someone (if that is possible while testing negative ?)
I think you'll be absolutely fine, as will the other pub-goers. Much more likely to fall off your bike on the way home :)
Reduced restrictions in Scotland from Monday
not in my house they aint :D
im renaming house to "the hermitage":eyebrows:
walpurgis
18-01-2022, 18:53
im renaming house to "the hermitage":eyebrows:
Mine's called 'The Fortress', could do with a couple more gun positions though :D .
Mine's called 'The Fortress', could do with a couple more gun positions though :D .
na, mines are the modern way:eek:
France reports nearly half a million new cases, a record increase; Italy records 228,179 daily infections. Scotland down to under 8K. not seen englad but expect it to be under 100k. seems mainland europe getting brunt of it now.
Is it getting going in Aus now?
Is it getting going in Aus now?
They should be fine - they've deported Novak Djokovic :lol:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60050996
How stupid, she should have just got vaccinated
Meningitis B cases rising sharply among students in England, study finds.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jan/19/meningitis-b-cases-rising-students-england-study
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60050996
How stupid, she should have just got vaccinated
yup very foolish woman. play with fire and you can get burnt.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60050996
How stupid, she should have just got vaccinated
''There was no point in trying to discuss the issue with her as it would just get too emotional'',
That's the problem right there.
All plan B Covid restrictions, including mask wearing, to end in England
Think the mask thing is a mistake. But Boris is trying to save his ass
hifi_dave
19-01-2022, 15:51
As our cases are falling, we are ending the use of masks in enclosed spaces. Makes sense..:scratch:
As our cases are falling, we are ending the use of masks in enclosed spaces. Makes sense..:scratch:
an attempt to keep his job i guess.
walpurgis
19-01-2022, 16:17
Pandering to the great unwashed, who don't bother to wear masks where they're meant to anyway (or recognise rules of any kind if they can avoid it).
nearly 110k cases again.. not a time for no masks etc
hifi_dave
19-01-2022, 17:37
The BBC news heralded the lowering of cases yesterday. Now they have soared and that's before we abandon masks.
As Geoff said, t's all about pandering to those who feel safe and secure. What worries me are the millions who are still vulnerable and those shielding.
scotland is abpout 8.5k i think. still high but its on way down.. we kept masks as we have always done.
Pigmy Pony
19-01-2022, 18:17
As our cases are falling, we are ending the use of masks in enclosed spaces. Makes sense..:scratch:
But we can just carry on wearing masks as before (which I will), and just give the non-mask wearers a wide berth. So not much is changed really.
walpurgis
19-01-2022, 18:47
But we can just carry on wearing masks as before (which I will), and just give the non-mask wearers a wide berth. So not much is changed really.
Unfortunately the non mask wearers now come right up next to you.
Personally, I'd like social distancing to remain compulsory regardless of any Covid. 3 metres will do nicely! :eek:
ive got used to not mixing now. sad as that may seem. i do go out put very much pick my time and place, although at moment its not possible really. when out i wear 99% masks where i can, and have a uvc box to sterilize them as best i can to save a bit of money as they usually have had little wear.
Luckily I have no social life, COVID or not, so I naturally “social distance”. I never stopped wearing masks last time they were discontinued and will still carry on wearing them as I’ve not had any sort of cold or transmissible illness in over two years. But I suspect I will be in the minority, so Tesco will be a challenge dodging the fuckwits but otherwise I will be carrying on as “new (old) normal”.
I've seen no evidence of plotters being blackmailed
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_xFr65WwAA5ynp.jpg
:eyebrows::eyebrows:
Does anyone believe a single word he says?
walpurgis
21-01-2022, 08:29
They know that we know that nothing they say can be trusted and they don't care! One day there'll be a price to pay with a bit of luck.
the world is going mad tbh. you just have to scour news stories and almost every one of them causes a dismayed shake of head. sad times, and all due to greed and desire for more power.
Pigmy Pony
21-01-2022, 18:34
Does anyone believe a single word he says?
He did once come on telly and say "Good Evening". And up till then it was.
Doctors have discovered an “antibody signature” that can help identify patients most at risk of developing long Covid, a condition where*debilitating symptoms*of the disease can persist for many months.
Researchers at University hospital Zurich analysed blood from Covid patients and found that low levels of certain antibodies were more common in those who developed long Covid than in patients who swiftly recovered.
When combined with the patient’s age, details of their Covid symptoms and whether or not they had asthma, the antibody signature allowed doctors to predict whether people had a moderate, high or very high risk of developing long-term illness.
walpurgis
26-01-2022, 08:49
This is tough, but not surprising.
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-26/boston-hospital-refuses-to-perform-heart-transplant-on-unvaccinated-patient
sis in law had a double lung transplant not that long ago and the criteria for getting it is incredibly strict. its to make sure you have best chance of survival, and rare organs are not wasted.
its odd tho that a guy does want to take advantage of modern medical knowledge, but he wants to say he knows more than the doctors re covid vaxx... just shows how, if you get infected with anti vaxx, how it clouds your judgement.
i might add i bet that is not the only thing that has stopped the transplant, just the newsworthy one.
walpurgis
26-01-2022, 10:08
i might add i bet that is not the only thing that has stopped the transplant, just the newsworthy one.
Yes, I suspect he may also have been judged as lacking the physical stamina.
Pigmy Pony
26-01-2022, 16:53
This is tough, but not surprising.
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-26/boston-hospital-refuses-to-perform-heart-transplant-on-unvaccinated-patient
Dr Arthur Caplan spells out the reasoning in a way even a simpleton like me can follow. This DJ feller needs to get his head out of his arse and think about his family.
Mikeandvan
27-01-2022, 10:43
This is tough, but not surprising.
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-26/boston-hospital-refuses-to-perform-heart-transplant-on-unvaccinated-patient
What a plonker. Religious may be?
Mikeandvan
27-01-2022, 10:44
sis in law had a double lung transplant not that long ago and the criteria for getting it is incredibly strict. its to make sure you have best chance of survival, and rare organs are not wasted.
its odd tho that a guy does want to take advantage of modern medical knowledge, but he wants to say he knows more than the doctors re covid vaxx... just shows how, if you get infected with anti vaxx, how it clouds your judgement.
i might add i bet that is not the only thing that has stopped the transplant, just the newsworthy one.
Didn't realise they could transplant lungs now! What about livers? How is she getting on?
yup livers too. livers have the poorest outcome. sis is doing very well so far.
hifi_dave
27-01-2022, 15:51
Didn't realise they could transplant lungs now! What about livers? How is she getting on?
When I was in having a Kidney Transplant, there was a chap there having what the staff called a "mixed grill' and that was practically everything replaced. I believe this included Heart, Lungs, Kidney, Liver, Spleen and maybe a couple of other parts. The operation took 24 hours and was first done at Addenbrookes where I was.
That will take some getting over.
Pigmy Pony
27-01-2022, 16:02
I read somewhere that part-livers can come from living donors, and it can regenerate to become full-size again. There has also been talk about transplanting pigs' livers being a viable option in the future. Don't know where we are with that one.
I read somewhere that part-livers can come from living donors, and it can regenerate to become full-size again. There has also been talk about transplanting pigs' livers being a viable option in the future. Don't know where we are with that one.
Doctors have managed to transplant a genetically modified pig heart into a human being for the first time, with the help of a small amount of cocaine.
The successful operation took place earlier this month at the University of Maryland Medical Center. Surgeons used a solution containing a small amount of Cocaine which made the heart beat more strongly. :D
I read somewhere that part-livers can come from living donors, and it can regenerate to become full-size again. There has also been talk about transplanting pigs' livers being a viable option in the future. Don't know where we are with that one.
apparently a part liver transplant is from a living donor and it will regenerate to full size in about 8 weeks.. amazing
Mikeandvan
27-01-2022, 23:12
When I was in having a Kidney Transplant, there was a chap there having what the staff called a "mixed grill' and that was practically everything replaced. I believe this included Heart, Lungs, Kidney, Liver, Spleen and maybe a couple of other parts. The operation took 24 hours and was first done at Addenbrookes where I was.
That will take some getting over.
It seems like I'm still living in the 19th century or something, I can't believe one can have so many organs replaced, it's nuts.
Mikeandvan
27-01-2022, 23:12
Well nuts, and bolts.
Mikeandvan
27-01-2022, 23:13
I read somewhere that part-livers can come from living donors, and it can regenerate to become full-size again. There has also been talk about transplanting pigs' livers being a viable option in the future. Don't know where we are with that one.
So I can carry on drinking as much Swine as I want then?
hifi_dave
28-01-2022, 16:16
They've been working on using Pig's Kidneys for transplant for some years. Hopefully they will crack it for all organs in the near future.
Pigmy Pony
28-01-2022, 16:57
Transplants in many cases are probably pretty straightforward these days, The real battle will be keeping the body from rejecting them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60154398
Long Covid: Hidden lung damage spotted on scans
mad-moon
03-03-2022, 03:02
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60154398
Long Covid: Hidden lung damage spotted on scans
Yip....4 days in hospital with Covid 19....hospitalised 6 weeks later, couldn't breath properly with severe chest pain..Initially they thought is was a heart attack, but damage was found on my lungs on a CT Scan....I have long Covid..and it's a fucking nuisance..breathlesness..extreme fatigue, sleeping all the time..the arthritis is made worse...Can't get a hard on...nowt on the telly...might as well be fuckin dead...
Yip....4 days in hospital with Covid 19....hospitalised 6 weeks later, couldn't breath properly with severe chest pain..Initially they thought is was a heart attack, but damage was found on my lungs on a CT Scan....I have long Covid..and it's a fucking nuisance..breathlesness..extreme fatigue, sleeping all the time..the arthritis is made worse...Can't get a hard on...nowt on the telly...might as well be fuckin dead...
what's one of them then??:D i feel pretty much like you alan and ive not had it tmk. hope you feel a bit better soon mate
walpurgis
03-03-2022, 08:54
what's one of them then??:D i feel pretty much like you alan and ive not had it tmk. hope you feel a bit better soon mate
+1
Hope you recover soon mate! :thumbsup:
Hope you recover soon mate! :thumbsup:
+1 Wishing you all the best Alan.
hifi_dave
03-03-2022, 18:36
Wishing you a swift recovery Alan.
Sorry to see this, hope it improves for you Alan.
Yip....4 days in hospital with Covid 19....hospitalised 6 weeks later, couldn't breath properly with severe chest pain..Initially they thought is was a heart attack, but damage was found on my lungs on a CT Scan....I have long Covid..and it's a fucking nuisance..breathlesness..extreme fatigue, sleeping all the time..the arthritis is made worse...Can't get a hard on...nowt on the telly...might as well be fuckin dead...
Jeezus Mate,
Sorry to hear Alan,
hope its something that you can get through and the situation improves.
Take care of yersel mate.
....Lack of hard-on is a hard one :D
mad-moon
05-03-2022, 22:22
cheers folks, for all the kind words..:)
Just had a text telling me that I have been in close contact with someone carrying Covid and giving me a link for pcr test kit.
Bloody amazing as my track and test has been switched off for monthsand is no longer in use (I understand).
bloody scammers :lol:
Covid in Scotland: Hospital patient numbers highest in 13 months.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60698453
i said it was way too early to dispence with masks etc
I still see a fair few people wearing them. Usually they are driving alone in a car or walking on their own down a deserted street.
I wonder if they go somewhere indoors and crowded do they take it off then? Sort of like the exact opposite of what your meant to do. I think it's possible.
Maybe they saw on the internet that covid waits until your alone then it pounces.
Mikeandvan
10-03-2022, 21:02
I still see a fair few people wearing them. Usually they are driving alone in a car or walking on their own down a deserted street.
I wonder if they go somewhere indoors and crowded do they take it off then? Sort of like the exact opposite of what your meant to do. I think it's possible.
Maybe they saw on the internet that covid waits until your alone then it pounces.
They probably wear condoms in bed too every night.
They probably wear condoms in bed too every night.
well you never know;)
hifi_dave
11-03-2022, 16:30
Didn't notice which but one of the East England hospitals is so full with Covid patients, they are having to turn them away.
Can only get worse with no precautions at all.
mad-moon
13-03-2022, 02:01
Covid in Scotland: Hospital patient numbers highest in 13 months.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60698453
i said it was way too early to dispence with masks etc
Scary reading...that's very high figures...
hifi_dave
13-03-2022, 15:27
My Wife now has Covid. Another two days for me to show symptoms, I suppose. Just hope the 4 doses of vaccine will save me.
My Wife now has Covid. Another two days for me to show symptoms, I suppose. Just hope the 4 doses of vaccine will save me.
i hope she is ok, and that you dont contract it david...fingers x-ed.
Pigmy Pony
13-03-2022, 15:58
My Wife now has Covid. Another two days for me to show symptoms, I suppose. Just hope the 4 doses of vaccine will save me.
Four doses? :eek: I'm sure you'll be fine Dave (fingers crossed). Mrs. P got Covid a couple of months ago, and despite being 'high risk' with a range of health conditions, she was just a bit headachy for a day or two. I didn't catch it at all. I'm convinced our good fortune was entirely down to our triple-jabs :)
hifi_dave
13-03-2022, 16:56
Four doses? :eek: I'm sure you'll be fine Dave (fingers crossed). Mrs. P got Covid a couple of months ago, and despite being 'high risk' with a range of health conditions, she was just a bit headachy for a day or two. I didn't catch it at all. I'm convinced our good fortune was entirely down to our triple-jabs :)
Thank you. Trouble is I have a Kidney transplant, amongst other things and am immunosuppressed. Just have to pray and keep taking the vit C and D.
Thank you. Trouble is I have a Kidney transplant, amongst other things and am immunosuppressed. Just have to pray and keep taking the vit C and D.
yup, just try to wear a mask and wash hands etc all time. i use alcohol everytime i touch anything that comes into house. 4 doses should give you a decent chance of being ok.
hifi_dave
13-03-2022, 17:01
Mrs W just has a bad cold and is getting over it now. She showed signs on Thursday. Five days from then is Tuesday, so I expect to be positive by then.
Living together makes it nigh on impossible to avoid each other and breathe each other's air. I wash my hands regularly but I don't hold out much hope of not getting it. Best result would be getting it and not being very ill.:drugs:
i think if its omricon you would have it by now if you were going to. Its very quick and even 36 hrs can be enough David..
hifi_dave
13-03-2022, 17:20
Now, that would be good.
I'm judging by how long it took Mrs W to show signs from when she had contact with someone infected. She went to her Sister's Birthday lunch and mixed with a couple of dozen people without masks on the Sunday before. We've had two years of being ultra careful and now this. It's because the public perception, based on the media, is that it's gone away now and is no threat but it ain't
Don't worry too much about yourself Dave - Fliss had COVID a while back and I remained negative. Two + booster "jabs" for me, we didn't isolate from each other.
hifi_dave
14-03-2022, 09:02
I have Covid..:eek:
A bright red warning appeared really quickly and I'm hoping that doesn't mean I have a large dose. I feel rough.
damn it.. i hope you cope ok david,:)
damn it.. i hope you cope ok david,:)
+1
hifi_dave
14-03-2022, 10:43
Thanks lads. It's just a heavy cold at present and I hope it won't get any worse.
I'm waiting for a call from the GP about supplying anti viral drugs. Hope they can do it quickly.
This latest version supposed to be less deadly than the 'flu. But more contagious.
Bksabath
15-03-2022, 06:59
Ivermectin in Africa and Brazil - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz4adJXLHgA)
The main one to watch for is
Ivermectin to be investigated as a possible treatment for COVID-19 in Oxford’s PRINCIPLE trial | University of Oxford (https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-06-23-ivermectin-be-investigated-possible-treatment-covid-19-oxford-s-principle-trial)
This was back in June 2021 the results should be out soon
Enough said
Get well soon Dave, hoping it doesn’t get any worse for you.
walpurgis
15-03-2022, 12:13
Thanks lads. It's just a heavy cold at present and I hope it won't get any worse.
I'm waiting for a call from the GP about supplying anti viral drugs. Hope they can do it quickly.
Hope you feel batter quickly Dave.
Thanks lads. It's just a heavy cold at present and I hope it won't get any worse.
I'm waiting for a call from the GP about supplying anti viral drugs. Hope they can do it quickly.
hope your doing ok david... best wishes again.
Best wishes Dave, hope you are better soon.
walpurgis
17-03-2022, 18:39
Infection rates zooming back up.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
I'd really sooner not catch Covid again. It took me weeks to get my breath back last time.
yup its high up here... https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/11D4/production/_123746540_bbcpostcardpress-1.jpg
i wore my 99% mask today when picking up shopping. was outside too and kept a couple of metres away from lad. hospitals are getting full, and i dont really want to die in one.
at least scotland is keeping masks into april now.
Sorry to hear that Dave. My Daughter has it at the moment but she is young(ish) and healthy - a nurse and triple jabbed. She just feels a bit "under the weather". My wife and I are also triple jabbed and showing negative. Fingers crossed for us and triple crossed for you.
My Wife now has Covid. Another two days for me to show symptoms, I suppose. Just hope the 4 doses of vaccine will save me.
Hi Dave,
Really sorry to hear that please do wish your wife a speedy recovery and am keeping everything crossed here for you both.
Chris
Best wishes to you Dave and the Missus from all here. Hope the current sunshine will help lift your spirits a little...
sadly its getting worse here.. only thing to do is continue to double up on being reclusive. over 2 years now since i touched anyone, and feels like i may never again.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/133D6/production/_123760887_fridaystats.jpg
hifi_dave
18-03-2022, 17:49
Thanks lads.
So far, it's been OK. Had a throbbing headache and runny nose on Monday, then Tuesday onwards just a runny nose and tired. Just hope it doesn't get any worse. My Wife has had it for over a week and is feeling rough.
Problem for me is something else which has kept me in Hospital from Tuesday morning to this afternoon.:unfair:
Hope that's the worst over for u both
hifi_dave
19-03-2022, 11:41
If you could be certain that is all it will be, you could go out and get it over with.
If you could be certain that is all it will be, you could go out and get it over with.
alas your still open to other variants.
Pigmy Pony
19-03-2022, 17:00
alas your still open to other variants.
This is true, we will never "get it over with". We'll just get better at dealing with it I think, through treatments and vaccines.
new hopitalization records in scotland(2128) although not in intensive care which seems lower.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-new-data-shows-fullest-picture-yet-of-deaths-during-the-pandemic-12572639
figures behind covid.
so signs of it easing....
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13559/production/_123839197_bbcpostcardpress.jpg
Thanks lads.
So far, it's been OK. Had a throbbing headache and runny nose on Monday, then Tuesday onwards just a runny nose and tired. Just hope it doesn't get any worse. My Wife has had it for over a week and is feeling rough.
Problem for me is something else which has kept me in Hospital from Tuesday morning to this afternoon.:unfair:
How are you both doing? All ok now?
Covid cases have climbed by a million in a week the UK, data from the Office for National Statistics reveals.
The rates across the nations were:
England: 6.4%, up from 4.9% last week - approximately one in 16 people
Wales: 6.4%, up from 4.1% last week - approximately one in 16 people
Northern Ireland: 5.9%, down from 7.1% last week - approximately one in 17 people
Scotland: 9%, up from 7.15% last week - approximately one in 11 people
hifi_dave
25-03-2022, 17:20
How are you both doing? All ok now?
Thanks for asking.
Both got away lightly (fingers crossed) with cold like symptoms. Both now have loads of Catarrh, no energy and tired all the time. Not sure if that's the tail end of Covid or just bad colds picked up from somewhere ? Though I haven't left the house for two weeks.
Glad you and your wife have fought your way through this Dave.
I have had the miserable head cold for a week after testing positive for COVID, and am just beginning to feel human again. I'm a fairly fit 73 year old - my wife is a little younger, but started later and is a week behind me in the misery stakes. Yes, it is very debilitating.
The young 'uns in our family say it takes (on average) a week to shake it off, so I haven't done too badly, and I hope my wife fares as well.
You and "Mrs HiFi" did well to work through it - all power to you both, and may the spring bring joy to us all.
Keep Ukraine in your hearts and prayers.
Thanks for asking.
Both got away lightly (fingers crossed) with cold like symptoms. Both now have loads of Catarrh, no energy and tired all the time. Not sure if that's the tail end of Covid or just bad colds picked up from somewhere ? Though I haven't left the house for two weeks.
good news :cool:
hifi_dave
29-03-2022, 14:47
How long does the Covid symptoms last for ? I tested positive on the 14th and though I have had a bad cold thing, I still feel completely wacked out now. All I want to do is sleep..:comatose: Everything takes so much energy.
sounds like youve got a bit of the post viral fatigue.
https://www.rcot.co.uk/how-manage-post-viral-fatigue-after-covid-19-0
glad you got through the worst bit.
hifi_dave
29-03-2022, 15:21
Thanks for that.
Seems it can take a lot longer to recover than I thought. I feel guilty just laying around but it appears to be necessary.
I think it takes folk differently. I am ten days after testing positive. For the first six days I had the heavy head cold symptoms and felt dreadful. A lot of that was down to lack of sleep because if I was horizontal my head filled up and I couldn't sleep. The head cold then cleared and I could sleep. I felt a good bit better and could sleep 10 to 14 hours a day in two or three sessions. I'm still sleeping a lot but I do have the energy to go for gentle bike rides.
I spoke to a lady this morning who had it much worse with temperatures hitting 102F. If anything I felt a chill most of the time. Spoke to the gardener who looks after our flats - he is three weeks beyond symptoms and still goes to bed at 8:30pm and sleeps right through.
But then of course a few cases are serious enough to need hospitalisation.
i sleep 12hrs minimum every night now, often 14.:rolleyes: old age and being physically buggered:steam:
hifi_dave
29-03-2022, 16:27
I usually manage 9 hours, throwing myself out at 0900 - lately because I am full of dread as to what the day will bring.
I usually manage 9 hours, throwing myself out at 0900 - lately because I am full of dread as to what the day will bring.
im up every 2hrs for a pee alas.. last night it was 1+1/2hrs.. bloody prostate and bladder... just 2 more things that dont work well. Im a living disaster:D but living still.
mad-moon
11-04-2022, 23:19
To everyone, who has been struck by this dreadful virus, best wishes and swift healing. It is such a debilitating thing to be hit with. I sympathise with you all, god bless you...I really feel for the youth of today, who have to have their young lives affected, by such a horrible thing..They are so restricted in what they can do, running the gauntlet, every time they leave their homes. I wonder what effect, it is going to have on future generations. I feel a bit guilty, having lived an unmolested life, till now...I'm on my way out. These kids are just starting out in life...god what a shame..xx.
I felt rough yesterday (headache, chest pains, very tired) negative test result.
Today I am feeling a little better, chest pains have gone, but gave a very strong positive result.
walpurgis
12-04-2022, 13:17
Been feeling rough for a couple of days myself. A cold I think, it doesn't feel like Covid which I had twice.
daughter got a slight red marker yesterday and was feeling terrible. she is a bit better today tho. her husband has it currently.
ive been feeling shitty myself but i dont think its covid.
Well this just made my Sunday :rolleyes:
Felt achey yesterday like I had a flu coming on, got worse this morning.
Throat and chest feel tight, doing a lot of coughing.
Guy in the Office sent home lunchtime Thursday there,
another 3 folks aside myself have all reported in as positive.
His 50th Birthday was the next Day,
guess he wanted to take as many down with him as he could!
Ah well,
is what it is.
https://i.imgur.com/NuJzdcA.jpg
Thanks Martin.
Extended Easter break I guess,
more time to listen to Tunes.
walpurgis
17-04-2022, 12:36
It's been a week since I felt OK and still a bit of a way to go till I'm 100% I think. Doubt it's Covid, I only got over the Omicron about seven weeks ago. I'm renowned in the family for catching every bug going! :rolleyes:
Well this just made my Sunday :rolleyes:
Felt achey yesterday like I had a flu coming on, got worse this morning.
Throat and chest feel tight, doing a lot of coughing.
Guy in the Office sent home lunchtime Thursday there,
another 3 folks aside myself have all reported in as positive.
His 50th Birthday was the next Day,
guess he wanted to take as many down with him as he could!
Ah well,
is what it is.
https://i.imgur.com/NuJzdcA.jpg
yup hope you dont get worse gary... daughter is still pos although she feels ok. son in law is ok now but he was worst of two of them illness wise
It's been a week since I felt OK and still a bit of a way to go till I'm 100% I think. Doubt it's Covid, I only got over the Omicron about seven weeks ago. I'm renowned in the family for catching every bug going! :rolleyes:
you can catch this ne several times apparently, even straight after getting rid, so maybe worth checking
walpurgis
17-04-2022, 12:49
maybe worth checking
Too much bother. I don't mix with others, so not an issue really. It felt like a (very) nasty cold and I'm on the mend.
walpurgis
17-04-2022, 12:54
Get well soon mate.
Yeah, take care Gaz.
walpurgis
18-04-2022, 11:08
How're you feeling?
Worse today Geoff,
mild flu yesterday vs. hit by a truck today.
Tesco food delivery earlier,
just taking it in and putting it away wiped me out.
Chest feels heavy, breathing a bit more laboured than normal.
Not much of an appetite (hard to keep down), so taking Vit.D and other supplements to keep me topped up.
Bottles of water always kicking around too.
Just need to ride it out I guess.
Good news is as I'm off for 10 days I can be in for postie bringing some new tweaky bits n bobs for the system. :)
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