The Most Beautiful and Ugliest Turntables [Archive] - Page 2

Vrajbasi

08-09-2018, 15:24

Sadly the new arms are outside what I can afford to buy now, but I am very happy with my AMG Giro, so I think that's more than likely it now for me re vinyl replay - but never say never there are a few things I would like to try, Technics SP10 being one such.

The AMG GIRO is lovely and werner was quite a genius with his designs, Brinkman owes alot to him. The price of the new grahams are very expensive the Phantom 3 is around £6500 and the Elite 12" £12300 with the very recent price increases serious investments. I am playing with a Kodo Beat turntable kindly loaned to me its very good reminds me of a grown up SP10 MK3 but really have to resist otherwise I will be in serious trouble.

gninnam

08-09-2018, 16:05

Actually that works, and looks rather attractive... Probably because I like the look of the Orbe (and its beautifully engineered) fat, black platter, and also the partnering AudioNote arm. I also suspect it would be a rather fine-sounding combination.

Is it yours? :)

Marco.

'Tis mine thanks and to my ears sounds excellent.
Like you say - it just seems to work aesthetically and also sonically - best of both worlds.

Beobloke

08-09-2018, 16:15

:lolsign:

Exactly!! Now, the styling of that T/T works and looks rather lovely... In fact, it's a beauty. I think the absence of gold bling makes a BIG difference!:cool:

Oh, and I bet it all sounds fab.

Marco.

I’m sure it sounds fab too, but what’s with the big lumps at the side?! I personally think they’re worse than rosewood!

speedracer

08-09-2018, 17:35

I heard Paul's Pioneer TT last weekend & mighty fine it sounded on one of my favourite LP's, Ella & Louis. It is in fantastic condition & while the design is not to my taste I can appreciate it for what it is, & the build quality is simply superb. It is bloody big too!

gninnam

08-09-2018, 19:02

I like the look of the standard plinthed Lenco 75s too - I have a Leak version which I think looks just on the right side of industrial

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/gninnamag/Hifi/IMG_0046.jpg

Can sound good too!

Marco

08-09-2018, 19:38

I like how Lenco's sound, but not keen on their looks. Those skinny/flimsy little platters don't do it for me. I like big fat, chunky bastards, like on your Orbe!!:D

Marco.

Jimbo

08-09-2018, 19:59

I like how Lenco's sound, but not keen on their looks. Those skinny/flimsy little platters don't do it for me. I like big fat, chunky bastards, like on your Orbe!!:D

Marco.

The Lenco platter is not skinny or flimsy, think ICEBERG small bit on top and loads more down below. They are very substantial beasts and weigh about 3.7kg

Marco

08-09-2018, 20:11

Ah, fair enough... But I like to see some chunkiness on top!:)

Marco.

Jimbo

08-09-2018, 21:13

More chunky, something like this?

https://www.vpiindustries.com/titan

Marco

08-09-2018, 21:18

Lol... Erm, no! :D

Marco.

Macca

08-09-2018, 22:49

https://i.imgur.com/8bf35wol.jpg

A1 that is mate. Can't fault it. Love the Lexus dashboard look myself. Glossy end cheeks are the business. And it does work on a turntable but it has to be darker wood like yours.

walpurgis

08-09-2018, 22:59

This of course, has to be the most beautiful turntable ever built. ;)

http://i67.tinypic.com/29bpk1.jpg

JohnG

09-09-2018, 06:51

24148

Goldring Lenco, Blinged with Stacked Platters.

Marco

09-09-2018, 07:42

A1 that is mate. Can't fault it. Love the Lexus dashboard look myself. Glossy end cheeks are the business. And it does work on a turntable but it has to be darker wood like yours.

I agree; that helps enormously, as it's more browny. Just as long as there's no gold bling!:eyebrows:

In reality, it's the 'baboon's arse' red colour, of 'faux rosewood', which really jars the eye.

Marco.

Marco

09-09-2018, 07:44

This of course, has to be the most beautiful turntable ever built. ;)

http://i67.tinypic.com/29bpk1.jpg

Lol - another abomination in styling: trying to make a turntable look 'cool' in completely the wrong way!:doh:

Marco.

Marco

09-09-2018, 07:46

24148

Goldring Lenco, Blinged with Stacked Platters.

Better, but WAY too shiny! Does it come in black?:)

Marco.

ianlenco

09-09-2018, 08:16

I like how Lenco's sound, but not keen on their looks. Those skinny/flimsy little platters don't do it for me. I like big fat, chunky bastards, like on your Orbe!!:D

Marco.
Here's a fine Lenco build by a guy called Steve who used to post on Lenco Heaven. We seemed to have lost touch which is a shame. Anyway, this uses a PTP replacement plate so the full depth of the platter can be seen. Although I'm never keen on multiple arms I like the deck for its simplicity of design. Steve even made the cloned arms himself, very clever man.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w80/velvetsunrise/Picture114.jpg

Marco

09-09-2018, 08:21

Nice one, Ian. As far as the platter goes, that's much better! I wonder why more Lencos aren't built that way? For me, the thin, insubstantial look of the platter (on the surface) makes them look a bit 'toytown'.

I like something that exudes an air of authority, and looks purposeful! Wouldn't have chosen the 'mustard' coloured mat, though...

Marco.

Vrajbasi

09-09-2018, 09:12

This of course, has to be the most beautiful turntable ever built. ;)

http://i67.tinypic.com/29bpk1.jpg

I have heard one of these in a all Macintosh you needed sunglasses before you could enter the room with all those lights, how anyone could put up with it I don,t know. Has to be said in this particular room it sounded respectable very powerful and at the same time graceful he had an Ikeda 345 9" and a Miyajima Madake that helped. Has to be one of the worst looking current decks around.

Vrajbasi

09-09-2018, 09:18

Here's a fine Lenco build by a guy called Steve who used to post on Lenco Heaven. We seemed to have lost touch which is a shame. Anyway, this uses a PTP replacement plate so the full depth of the platter can be seen. Although I'm never keen on multiple arms I like the deck for its simplicity of design. Steve even made the cloned arms himself, very clever man.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w80/velvetsunrise/Picture114.jpg

I always thought I could never live with a Lenco they never looked good I have a friend in Austria who uses one with Thomas Mayer gear sounds fabulous but as far as looks for get it this one is rather nice nice to see a bit of innovative thinking.

ianlenco

09-09-2018, 09:55

.........I like something that exudes an air of authority, and looks purposeful! Wouldn't have chosen the 'mustard' coloured mat, though...

Marco.

Well Marco, if you like the Orbe and you like the sound of a Lenco, here's a hybrid I built some time ago - it really does have a Lenco motor and idler wheel underneath it. :)

http://i.imgur.com/I7p0z9Uh.jpg#gWPQG

Beobloke

09-09-2018, 17:07

This of course, has to be the most beautiful turntable ever built. ;)

http://i67.tinypic.com/29bpk1.jpg

I really like that - how can you not love a deck with an analogue meter on the front?!

Cracking deck, too...

Marco

09-09-2018, 19:11

It would be so much better, Adam, if the platter didn't light up!

Marco.

Marco

09-09-2018, 19:13

Well Marco, if you like the Orbe and you like the sound of a Lenco, here's a hybrid I built some time ago - it really does have a Lenco motor and idler wheel underneath it. :)

http://i.imgur.com/I7p0z9Uh.jpg#gWPQG

Very interesting, Ian! :respect:

Marco.

jandl100

09-09-2018, 19:15

It would be so much better, Adam, if the platter didn't light up!

Marco.

Nah. It would still be hideous. :spew:

Vrajbasi

09-09-2018, 19:24

Nah. It would still be hideous. :spew:

£13500 worth of hideous :eyebrows:

Marco

09-09-2018, 19:34

Lol! I dig the lights on McIntosh amps... I just think that there was no need for a world-renowned amplifier manufacturer to bring out a turntable, which is actually made by someone else (Clearaudio), just to house it like that, simply to 'complete a range', as it were.

They shouldn't have bothered, left turntables to others, and concentrated instead on what they did best!

Marco.

spendorman

09-09-2018, 20:26

John Michell was certainly a cleaver chapie with the design of the Gyro his design has proven to be timeless and continues to sell in reasonably high numbers mostly I have been told due to its looks, the price is still reasonable for a Uk design and is certainly in line with inflation calculator.

Wasn't the original by Transcriptors?

spendorman

09-09-2018, 20:36

Marco

09-09-2018, 21:47

Some more turntables, which for me hit the spot, visually (which apart from the EMT, all feature use of the gorgeous Pierre Clément 'bean can' broadcast cartridge):

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/BOzfeg.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/dqIa1n.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/aHjXx6.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/UXO5s4.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/e0IG6C.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/UrYdTr.jpg

However, the EMT is being shown, simply because I love its 'industrial' looks!!

Yum, yum!:cool:

Marco.

Barry

09-09-2018, 21:59

Some more turntables, which for me hit the spot, visually (apart from the EMT, all feature use of the gorgeous Pierre Clément 'bean can' broadcast cartridge):

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/BOzfeg.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/UXO5s4.jpg

However, the EMT is being shown, simply because I love its 'industrial' looks!!

Yum, yum!:cool:

Marco.

Shame the EMT930 is incorrectly supported! :( The owner won't be getting the best out of it with it being simply 'plonked down' on a couple of bits of wood. :doh:

Barry

09-09-2018, 22:09

I liked the look of the Technics SL110, I have one, this is not mine.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1865/43669724465_b581ebf2cc_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/29wWKDT)sl110 (https://flic.kr/p/29wWKDT) by A60man (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41679262@N02/), on Flickr

There can't be many Mk.I SME 3009s knocking about these days. Since it is not fixed to the armboard, the tonearm alignment is going to get buggered each lime the arm is cued!

The strobe mat is a bit of overkill.

Marco

09-09-2018, 22:12

Shame the EMT930 is incorrectly supported! :( The owner won't be getting the best out of it with it being simply 'plonked down' on a couple of bits of wood. :doh:

Indeed... I'm hoping it was a temporary arrangement.

Marco.

Barry

09-09-2018, 22:19

I really like that - how can you not love a deck with an analogue meter on the front?!

Cracking deck, too...

Of course you need the meter to tell you what speed the deck is running at if you can't read the legends of the speed selector switch, or your ears can't tell you either! :doh:

Beobloke

10-09-2018, 09:28

Of course you need the meter to tell you what speed the deck is running at if you can't read the legends of the speed selector switch, or your ears can't tell you either! :doh:

Interestingly, in the picture, the speed is set to 45 but the meter shows ‘33’. Which is right?

That’s an OCD nightmare waiting to happen!!

spendorman

10-09-2018, 09:33

There can't be many Mk.I SME 3009s knocking about these days. Since it is not fixed to the armboard, the tonearm alignment is going to get buggered each lime the arm is cued!

The strobe mat is a bit of overkill.

Yes, agree about the unnecessary strobe, and I noticed the lack of screws in the arm base, still, it was one one the better pics around.

My SL-110 is armless!! Will do something about that one day.

speedracer

10-09-2018, 10:54

Interestingly, in the picture, the speed is set to 45 but the meter shows ‘33’. Which is right?

That’s an OCD nightmare waiting to happen!!

Actually if you look at the picture closely the notch in the speed selector knob is at 33 also, the line at 33 is just a reflection.

Beobloke

10-09-2018, 11:48

Actually if you look at the picture closely the notch in the speed selector knob is at 33 also, the line at 33 is just a reflection.

Ah - you're right. Thank god for that - my CDO was starting to kick in!

walpurgis

10-09-2018, 12:01

Ah - you're right. Thank god for that - my CDO was starting to kick in!

Your CDO is clashing with my OCD!

RobbieGong

12-09-2018, 16:59

Barry

12-09-2018, 17:10

Gorgeous 301 (and on eBay at the mo https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Garrard-turntable-301-with-SMD-granite-Reference-Plinth-and-REED-2A-10-5-tonearm/292719829920?hash=item44277623a0:g:sIEAAOSwAnlblTq W )

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1848/44589684952_0efb30b6c6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2aWeMRA)Gorgeous Garrard 301 (https://flic.kr/p/2aWeMRA) by Robert Rowe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152233952@N07/), on Flickr

The grey hammertone finished 301s always looked best to my eyes. However I have my doubts about the mirror finish polish of the platter.

It looks very handsome with the slate plinth. :)

YNWaN

12-09-2018, 18:12

I really like that - how can you not love a deck with an analogue meter on the front?!

Cracking deck, too...

I think the McIntosh is possibly the most hideous turntable in production - I strongly dislike every element of it.

Frazeur1

12-09-2018, 22:27

^^^I agree totally, nasty looking thing. It may be pretty good, I don’t know. But to me, it is just for the Macintoss fan club. To each their own of course!

User211

13-09-2018, 05:30

jandl100

13-09-2018, 05:52

:lol: A breath of fresh air, our Justin.
Absolutely spot on.

YNWaN

13-09-2018, 06:33

That’s not my experience - regarding non-audiophiles and turntables (unless you mean the vintage ones a lot of forum members are so keen on).

User211

13-09-2018, 07:22

That’s not my experience - regarding non-audiophiles and turntables (unless you mean the vintage ones a lot of forum members are so keen on).I expressed it in an extreme manner to make a point, but it isn't far from the truth I think.

The Michell designs are the only ones I have personally heard non-enthusiasts remark positively on.

Macca

13-09-2018, 07:23

Civilians do tend to recognise that a turntable is a turntable, unlike all the other stuff which is just mysterious boxes to them.

jandl100

13-09-2018, 07:29

B&O made a fortune by deliberately setting out to make good looking hifi gear.

My old (and non functional) B&O tt was the only real looker I've had when viewed objectively imo.
Civilians were invariably impressed.

Phwoar ...

https://i.imgur.com/Vqjyqzf.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cvYLfiw.jpg

alphaGT

13-09-2018, 08:01

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180913/488ceda5124c0ddbc4e9c5137e6a789b.jpg

Maybe not the most beautiful ‘table around, but it has a certain industrial look about it? I certainly don’t mind showing it off.

Russell

jandl100

13-09-2018, 08:09

^ Yep, lovely, Russell.
I love the symmetry of the thing, so many look skewed and unbalanced to the eye.

alphaGT

13-09-2018, 08:43

^ Yep, lovely, Russell.
I love the symmetry of the thing, so many look skewed and unbalanced to the eye.

A ‘table with both form, and function, brings true beauty.

Russell

User211

13-09-2018, 09:10

Barry

13-09-2018, 21:35

Yes, but we're discussing looks here and not performance.

Virtually all of the B&O designs were beautiful. Nice to see it with the matching integrated amp (I have the matching 1700 tuner). :)

Bigbird

14-09-2018, 15:32

To me this is still one of the best looking decks out there. Simple, understated and classy

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180906/29249cb2133335175978d5d963c63b67.jpg

New toy!!

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=4177&share_tid=57721&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheartofsound%2Enet%2Fforum%2Fsh owthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D57721&share_type=t

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Thanks for the love for my linn . I too am a big fan of the LP12s looks, which is one of the reasons i built one up.
I have to agree with marco though, the nima really isnt a great looking arm with that horrible frosted acrylic all over it. They could have done so much more with it ,as its performance warrants it. Needless to say , with a Yannis cable and the tiger paw scale it is a superb arm for the money which punches above its weight, and that will always come before looks for me. Heres some pics of my favourite looking TTs.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180914/896f179fcebcea285fcf69a950a19cdc.pnghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180914/3a92fcdacb44284a3caabe5c275ae3ee.png

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jandl100

14-09-2018, 15:52

That Linn plinth is absolutely beautiful. :thumbsup:

ianlenco

14-09-2018, 16:10

Take a step back and think.

Turntables are clumsy, awkward looking things, with only varying degrees of ugliness.

That's probably the viewpoint of most non-enthusiasts.

These posts are all from the eye of obsessives, who cannot see it like it really is LOL.

I bought this for all the wrong reasons and it was well admired by non-hifi friends. Trouble was it didn't sound that great so it went.

https://i.imgur.com/ebCpI4Wh.jpg#gWPQG

User211

14-09-2018, 17:39

I bought this for all the wrong reasons and it was well admired by non-hifi friends. Trouble was it didn't sound that great so it went.

https://i.imgur.com/ebCpI4Wh.jpg#gWPQGYeah always suspected that platter was a compromise too far.

Mike Reed

14-09-2018, 19:50

That Linn plinth is absolutely beautiful. :thumbsup:

But the Garrard plinth is both beautiful AND impressive.

Vrajbasi

14-09-2018, 21:54

But the Garrard plinth is both beautiful AND impressive.

The Russ Collinson plinths do nothing for me in the flesh I have had one in previously

Marco

14-09-2018, 22:16

Lol.... It's truly amazing how tastes differ!:doh::lol:

Firstly, I like the VPI - always have, because it's engineered to be a proper turntable, and I like the looks. However, things go sharply downhill from there....

Sorry, that shiny-wood plinthed cream 301 is an abomination (love the T/T hate that finish or that type of plinth). The one on the LP12 is a little better, but still not my thing [sorry Karl]. Why does everything have to be so fooking shiny - are you all closet magpies?:D

And I simply can't join in the 'B&O love-in', as those flimsy, tinny looking platters with plastic bits on them, I presume acting as a 'mat', and toy-town looking tonearms, are gross in the extreme, and the only reason I'd fish one out of a skip would be to give to Adam as a gift!

As you were :door::eyebrows:

Marco.

Bigbird

15-09-2018, 00:11

struth

15-09-2018, 01:30

I didn't realise the macintosh was a real deck. I thought it a photoshop mockup It's hideous and deserves to be a bad mockup.

Marco

15-09-2018, 07:08

Haha well my name is Bigbird.. [emoji12]
i dont like piano gloss myself , thats too blingy/shiny for me, i think i just like the vintage wooden vibe.
My plinth is far more natural looking in real life than the pictures would suggest.

Lol - I don't doubt it. What I like most about your plinth is the lovely wood grain, and there's no doubt that it's quality. I'd just prefer more of a matt finish, and probably a lighter wood. I generally prefer LP12s in something like light oak or ash:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/921/rIZBU1.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/XsEqsZ.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/xzMtY1.png

For me, that looks fabulous, as I like simple, clean lines, and nothing too 'fussy'. I've also always loved the look (and sound) of an Ittok. It's just beautifully engineered and finished, and substantially built, unlike those flimsy tin rods, posing as 'tonearms', on the B&O [sorry, Jerry and Adam!]

It also has a proper platter......

Oh, and this is yer man for the highest quality, most beautiful looking plinths for Garrard 301/401s, TD124s, SP10s, and such like: https://www.artisanfidelity.com/gallery-turntables/

Check out his gallery! Yes, some of the plinths are shiny, but they're rather more tastefully done than most:cool:

This is about the nicest implementation of an SP10 I've ever seen:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/EWCcbr.jpg

If you're going to have a shiny/bling mat or platter, copper is just *so* much more attractive than gold!

Marco.

ianlenco

15-09-2018, 08:26

I didn't realise the macintosh was a real deck. I thought it a photoshop mockup It's hideous and deserves to be a bad mockup.

It's actually a mackup :)

Bigbird

15-09-2018, 10:30

Lol - I don't doubt it. What I like most about your plinth is the lovely wood grain, and there's no doubt that it's quality. I'd just prefer more of a matt finish, and probably a lighter wood. I generally prefer LP12s in something like light oak or ash:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/921/rIZBU1.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/XsEqsZ.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/xzMtY1.png

For me, that looks fabulous, as I like simple, clean lines, and nothing too 'fussy'. I've also always loved the look (and sound) of an Ittok. It's just beautifully engineered and finished, and substantially built, unlike those flimsy tin rods, posing as 'tonearms', on the B&O [sorry, Jerry and Adam!]

It also has a proper platter......

Oh, and this is yer man for the highest quality, most beautiful looking plinths for Garrard 301/401s, TD124s, SP10s, and such like: https://www.artisanfidelity.com/gallery-turntables/

Check out his gallery! Yes, some of the plinths are shiny, but they're rather more tastefully done than most:cool:

This is about the nicest implementation of an SP10 I've ever seen:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/EWCcbr.jpg

If you're going to have a shiny/bling mat or platter, copper is just *so* much more attractive than gold!

Marco.
The grain is what drew me to mine, it has so much character and i wanted something unique. But those oak linn plinths are real beauties too. Id have been happy with either. I know what you mean about the Ittok, they are proper solid arms. Iv heard they do a test at the linn factory and if anybody can bend the armtube on one then they get a free arm as a prize. Nobody has yet managed it. So that says a lot about the engineering. I personally just felt that ultimately it lost out slightly to Nima in performance so i went for that. Shame its such an ugly little bugger. Oh well cant have everything.
funny enough Marco ive been looking at the artisan fidelity 401s this afternoon and watching their youtube vids. They are absolutely stunning. All of there work is second to none. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180915/d28397c5854b528b69fd1a96247edf5f.png
Alas, when i found out they were 15,000 bucks i quickly scurried off back to my nest to count my collection of tin foil and shiny chocolate wrappers and realised i was well off the mark so i will have to keep dreaming . Haha. [emoji23] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180915/af13063a7be19c2dc8398d8ff6147248.png

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struth

15-09-2018, 10:51

The grain is what drew me to mine, it has so much character and i wanted something unique. But those oak linn plinths are real beauties too. Id have been happy with either. I know what you mean about the Ittok, they are proper solid arms. Iv heard they do a test at the linn factory and if anybody can bend the armtube on one then they get a free arm as a prize. Nobody has yet managed it. So that says a lot about the engineering. I personally just felt that ultimately it lost out slightly to Nima in performance so i went for that. Shame its such an ugly little bugger. Oh well cant have everything.
funny enough Marco ive been looking at the artisan fidelity 401s this afternoon and watching their youtube vids. They are absolutely stunning. All of there work is second to none. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180915/d28397c5854b528b69fd1a96247edf5f.png
Alas, when i found out they were 15,000 bucks i quickly scurried off back to my nest to count my collection of tin foil and shiny chocolate wrappers and realised i was well off the mark so i will have to keep dreaming . Haha. [emoji23] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180915/af13063a7be19c2dc8398d8ff6147248.png

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yup, that works ...think the plainness of the deck makes it work

Bigbird

15-09-2018, 10:58

yup, that works ...think the plainness of the deck makes it work

Agreed, its a lovely contrast to the ebony veneer. Best get saving for my next project then

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struth

15-09-2018, 11:01

nice arm too, with the half black tube

Marco

15-09-2018, 11:02

The grain is what drew me to mine, it has so much character and i wanted something unique. But those oak linn plinths are real beauties too. Id have been happy with either.

Yup, the grain is lovely. What I find is that lighter-wood plinths tend to show off the arm and platter more, with less tendency for the constituent parts of the turntable to homogenise into an indistinct whole, and if the platter and/or arm are worth looking at, as was the case in my example, then it has served its purpose!:)

I know what you mean about the Ittok, they are proper solid arms. Iv heard they do a test at the linn factory and if anybody can bend the armtube on one then they get a free arm as a prize. Nobody has yet managed it. So that says a lot about the engineering. I personally just felt that ultimately it lost out slightly to Nima in performance so i went for that. Shame its such an ugly little bugger. Oh well cant have everything.

Ha - I'm impressed you ultimately chose sound before looks! However, I'm intimately familiar with the sound of the Nima (and Aro), and they both major at what unipivots do well (detail and flow), and both are very musical sounding devices.

They tend to have a lighter, 'airier' touch with music, than a higher-mass gimballed arm, such as the Ittok, which is more 'grounded' and majors on bass authoriity/depth, together with an infectious tunefulness and 'rhythmic alacrity', especially when partnered with Linn's own MC cartridges, and which is the type of presentation I prefer.

funny enough Marco ive been looking at the artisan fidelity 401s this afternoon and watching their youtube vids. They are absolutely stunning. All of there work is second to none.
Alas, when i found out they were 15,000 bucks i quickly scurried off back to my nest to count my collection of tin foil and shiny chocolate wrappers and realised i was well off the mark so i will have to keep dreaming . Haha.

Well, I didn't say they were affordable!:D

Still, you can see the sheer quality of the workmanship, which for me is second to none. It's definitely where my money would go (in conjunction with one of the direct-drive or idler motor-units in question), instead of on some blinged-up to buggery, so-called 'high-end' turntable with a 'desirable badge', which often sell for FAR more!!

Marco.

Beobloke

15-09-2018, 11:11

And I simply can't join in the 'B&O love-in', as those flimsy, tinny looking platters with plastic bits on them, I presume acting as a 'mat', and toy-town looking tonearms, are gross in the extreme, and the only reason I'd fish one out of a skip would be to give to Adam as a gift!

As you were :door::eyebrows:

Marco.

Forgive him, lord, he knows not what he says! :)

In all seriousness, the platters aren’t flimsy and don’t ring like a bell, unlike certain turntables we know and love. The ‘plastic bits’ were indeed plastic on the early ones and acted as both record supports and size detectors - an optical sensor in the second arm beside the main arm ‘read’ them as they rotated and knew there was no record on the platter.

On the later models such as Jerry’s, the black bits are actually nextel paint but still serve as optical markings for the size detector.

As to the ‘toy’ arms, they are like this for a reason. The B&O MMC cartridges are very low mass designs that track at less than 1.5g and so need a similarly low mass arm. Stick one in a Gray and it would probably collapse!

Marco

15-09-2018, 11:23

Forgive him, lord, he knows not what he says! :)

In all seriousness, the platters aren’t flimsy and don’t ring like a bell, unlike certain turntables we know and love. The ‘plastic bits’ were indeed plastic on the early ones and acted as both record supports and size detectors - an optical sensor in the second arm beside the main arm ‘read’ them as they rotated and knew there was no record on the platter.

On the later models such as Jerry’s, the black bits are actually nextel paint but still serve as optical markings for the size detector.

As to the ‘toy’ arms, they are like this for a reason. The B&O MMC cartridges are very low mass designs that track at less than 1.5g and so need a similarly low mass arm. Stick one in a Gray and it would probably collapse!

Haha... Well, "flimsy" in comparison with the tank-like/industrial stuff I prefer! Have you seen the size of the platter and bearing, on the likes of a Gates CB-77?:D Plus, as I said, I like to see some visible 'girth' happening on top, platter-wise, regardless of what's going on underneath, not simply a thin strip of metal.

Yup, I know why the B&O arms were designed that way, due to their low-mass/high-compliance/low-VTF partnering cartridge approach. As you know, I favour the polar opposite, and equipment that ably demonstrates it. Different strokes for different folks!:cool:

Marco.

Marco

15-09-2018, 11:32

https://youtu.be/y660sq78SfA

Watch up until around 20 secs and see... Yeah, man!! :hairmetal:

Marco.

Bigbird

15-09-2018, 12:50

nice arm too, with the half black tube

The origin live conquerer i think?? Style and substance combined

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Mike Reed

15-09-2018, 13:54

If you're going to have a shiny/bling mat or platter, copper is just *so* much more attractive than gold!

Marco.

I agree with you on that, which, apart from the plinth shape, was what I liked about the Raven AC. However, I'm surprised to find you less than gruntled over that 301 plinth. To me, the grain and deep colour and look of solidity appeals; the shine can easily be reduced. No comment about the aesthetics of the coupling, though.

Mike Reed

15-09-2018, 13:58

nice arm too, with the half black tube

Looks very Origin live-ish.

Cancel that; it's been rumbled.

Marco

15-09-2018, 14:07

However, I'm surprised to find you less than gruntled over that 301 plinth. To me, the grain and deep colour and look of solidity appeals; the shine can easily be reduced.

Which plinth are you referring to, Mike - that shiny one with the cream 301 on it? If so, there's a LOT I don't like about that pic. Firstly, I hate cream-coloured 301s. For me, it's BBC 'Hammertone Grey' or nothing, as I like its rather sober, 'studio-control room', look.

Secondly, the plinth... Yes, the shine could be reduced, but why have it in the first place? It'd much rather a nice matt finish, which would still show up the grain. And I prefer square, to rounded edges. Thirdly, I hate strobe markings on Garrard platters (as for me it cheapens them), and lastly, I'm not a fan of that Pro-ject arm!

Apart from that, I guess it's ok:D

Marco.

Marco

15-09-2018, 15:02

This is much more my thing [still not perfect, as I'd lose the shine on the plinth and give it squarer edges], and I wouldn't have chosen that arm:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/YpvhB2.jpg

I'd have popped on a Gray Research broadcast arm (as shown below), which would both work better, aesthetically, and for me, sonically (with the right cartridge).

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/jClYS2.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/rwwb7A.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/qPrWDk.jpg

If it'd fit, I suspect that a Denon DL-103 would sound great with it! Or perhaps a DL-107:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/C4WlbG.jpg

Marco.

RobbieGong

15-09-2018, 15:22

This is much more my thing [still not perfect, as I'd lose the shine on the plinth and have squarer edges], and I wouldn't have chosen that arm:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/YpvhB2.jpg

I'd have popped on a Gray Research broadcast arm (as shown below), which would both work better, aesthetically, and for me, sonically (with the right cartridge).

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/jClYS2.jpg

If it'd fit, I suspect that a Denon DL-103 would sound great with it!

Marco.

Agree with you on the 301 in that Hammeright Grey - looks great and right. The plinth as you say is probs too shiny / glossy given the choice.

The Gray Research broadcast arm I guess is mechanically a very good piece of engineering / kit. (I dont know anything about it though)

Looks wise it does nothing for me at all, just too far on the industrial side in appearance like something from an old tool kit.

That said, I see where you're coming from in terms of a physical (and sonic) match for the 301's Hammerite look.

The combination would probably be complimentary / work looks (and sound) wise ;)

Marco

15-09-2018, 15:27

Looks wise it does nothing for me at all, just too far on the industrial side in appearance like something from an old tool kit.

:lolsign:

Wot? That's all part of its 'charm'!:eyebrows:

Trust me, it sounds great with a nice fat conical-tipped low-compliance cartridge, tracking at 2.5g+. Bass to die for. Boogie on down, BABEEEE....:dance::dance::D

Marco.

RobbieGong

15-09-2018, 15:39

:lolsign:

Wot? That's all part of its 'charm'!:eyebrows:

Trust me, it sounds great with a nice fat conical-tipped low-compliance cartridge, tracking at 2.5g+. Bass to die for. Boogie on down, BABEEEE....:dance::dance::D

Marco.

When I looked at / envisaged the two combined and not just the arm in isolation, I could see where you were coming from.

Those two together would look / match and make a great combo looks wise.

I can also imagine with the right cart for that arm it would sound fab too.

Marco

15-09-2018, 16:17

Yesh, I knows wot I'm doing.... ;)

Marco.

Chivas

15-09-2018, 17:59

Thanks for the love for my linn . I too am a big fan of the LP12s looks, which is one of the reasons i built one up.
I have to agree with marco though, the nima really isnt a great looking arm with that horrible frosted acrylic all over it. They could have done so much more with it ,as its performance warrants it. Needless to say , with a Yannis cable and the tiger paw scale it is a superb arm for the money which punches above its weight, and that will always come before looks for me. Heres some pics of my favourite looking TTs.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180914/896f179fcebcea285fcf69a950a19cdc.pnghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180914/3a92fcdacb44284a3caabe5c275ae3ee.png

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You're welcome. That plinth on you LP12 is gorgeous. I'm also a fan of the cream 301 on a nice wooden plinth and 12" arm - there are a number of nice examples out there. Not sure I agree with you on the 'chocolate with wafer in the middle' looking plinth that you shared though.

Your LP 12 will look awesome with an Ittok/Ekos/Aro arm on it!

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Bigbird

16-09-2018, 05:13

You're welcome. That plinth on you LP12 is gorgeous. I'm also a fan of the cream 301 on a nice wooden plinth and 12" arm - there are a number of nice examples out there. Not sure I agree with you on the 'chocolate with wafer in the middle' looking plinth that you shared though.

Your LP 12 will look awesome with an Ittok/Ekos/Aro arm on it!

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I think a 401, wood plinth and 12 inch SME might be my next move but may have to flog the linn to fund it. Be a while yet though as im still enjoying the music through the LP12.

Would love an aro but its way out of my price range and i prefered the sound and detail of the nima to the ittok. Even if it does miss out slightly on the bass side.

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Marco

16-09-2018, 06:25

I think a 401, wood plinth and 12 inch SME might be my next move...

If so, Karl, go for this: https://sme.co.uk/audio/product/series-m2-12r/ as opposed to a 312S, as IME it's eminently more musical sounding and much closer to the 'unipivot sound' you're used to, than any of SME's magnesium-tubed arms would be, which tend towards sterility.

And if you go for a 401, be prepared for a sonic presentation that will be the polar opposite of what you've been accustomed to with your LP12, so maybe get a listen to a few 401s first, before taking the plunge, just to make sure it's your bag?:)

You have to consider too, that your Naim amps are designed to compliment your Linn, and with which you're unlikely to achieve the same synergy with a 401.

Marco.

Beobloke

16-09-2018, 08:43

You have to consider too, that your Naim amps are designed to compliment your Linn, and with which you're unlikely to achieve the same synergy with a 401.

Marco.

Eh? Not true at all! I used a Garrard 301 with a Naim amplifier for years and it sounded superb.

The amp doesn’t know what’s connected to it, you know! ;)

Marco

16-09-2018, 09:59

Bigbird

16-09-2018, 10:28

Indeed not, but the 'voicing' of the amp may or may not compliment the 'voicing' of the turntable, that's the point; as is the fact that Linn and Naim was always a classic and complimentary pairing, achieving true sonic synergy, which may or may not be the case (and if so, perhaps not to the same extent) when the same amps are paired with a 401.

Just alerting Karl to something he should consider, that's all:)

Marco.

Yes im fully aware that it will sound different but thats the fun of this game, to keep trying and tweaking things until you find something that sticks, and learn a bit along the way.

I have considered all of the above points and i know linn and naim are a tried and tested winner but ive heard a 401 and CB era naim combo and it sounded great to my ears.

My amps probably wont be strictly the naim sound by time im finished as im going to give the avondale Qudos boards a go in my 180, and the RSL boards in my pre to see if i can extract every little drop i can from them .
If i dont like it i will sell them on, but ive read and heard great things so should be a winner.

Maybe next year i will start a new project putting together the garrard combo and will have to see the budget with regards to what arm i can get. The one youve mentioned is on the shortlist though.

I think i might give valves a go next time aswell but thats another story. The good thing about this game is if you make reasonably smart choices you can always move gear on without losing to much money(if any) and it allows you to experiment until you find a winning setup

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Marco

16-09-2018, 11:09

I have considered all of the above points and i know linn and naim are a tried and tested winner but ive heard a 401 and CB era naim combo and it sounded great to my ears.

Ok then, go right on ahead, and I wish you well. Bear in mind, though, what I said about SME arms, and if you decide to give valves a punt, let me know and I'll give you some good tips. Eight years ago, I moved from using Naim amps to valves, and haven't looked back since:cool:

Marco.

Bigbird

17-09-2018, 07:52

Ok then, go right on ahead, and I wish you well. Bear in mind, though, what I said about SME arms, and if you decide to give valves a punt, let me know and I'll give you some good tips. Eight years ago, I moved from using Naim amps to valves, and haven't looked back since:cool:

Marco.

Ok mate , great!! Thanks a lot

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Marco

17-09-2018, 16:18

No problemo, Karl! :)

Meanwhile, talking of beautiful turntables, this is Hermit's GORGEOUS re-plinthed Sony, partnered with his new SME V-12:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/LufgPF.jpg

Now *that* is a fine example of getting it *right*. Nice square edges on the plinth and clean lines, no OTT shine, complimentary colours/use of matetials, and not a trace of bling!! :thumbsup:

Marco.

karma67

17-09-2018, 16:33

lovely! but then im biased lol

Marco

17-09-2018, 16:38

Ha - I'm not and still love it!

Marco.

Beobloke

17-09-2018, 16:45

Barry

17-09-2018, 16:46

It is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship but I just think that, generally, 12” arms look too ungainly on turntables. I much prefer a 9 or 10 incher.

The proportions look fine to me. :)

Marco

17-09-2018, 16:46

It is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship but I just think that, generally, 12” arms look too ungainly on turntables. I much prefer a 9 or 10 incher.

I don't disagree (I also generally prefer their sound), but on there it seems to work.

Marco.

flapland

17-09-2018, 17:01

hermit

17-09-2018, 18:25

Lovely thing as is the Luxman phono stage just visible on the right hand side.

Thanks for all the kind comments gentlemen. It sounds better than it looks. :)

I was also very lucky to be able to buy a lovely vintage Luxman silver SUT from Ali of this parish a year or so back. It's a beautiful combination.

http://audioabattoir.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/optimized/3X/0/b/0b3a74b56f5b1e5cd236dc91b35e8c5171eb4bed_1_690x388 .jpg

Mike Reed

18-09-2018, 16:37

... I just think that, generally, 12” arms look too ungainly on turntables. I much prefer a 9 or 10 incher.

I feel the exact opposite. I love 12" arms for their purposeful look and indeed practical and tactile properties. The extra mass is also useful for many m/coils, though in respect of the V12, it's only one gramme heavier than the Five; quite odd ! However, the deck has got to suit, which lets out most if not all suspended decks. The old idlers (301/401/Goldrings) really suited the SME 3012s around at the time. They really looked the 'biz', although were probably less suitable for the high compliance Shures etc. around then.

337alant

18-09-2018, 18:18

I allways thought the Oracle Delphi was a beautiful turntable

https://www.oracle-audio.com/delphi-mkvi-second-generation

and the Pioneer P3A
https://www.google.kz/search?q=pioneer+p3a+turntable&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBKZ773KZ773&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=g3-hHmfbiAfMvM%253A%252CciXAodmyP0FVdM%252C_&usg=AFrqEzemQJXQUgfn99R71Oq53WLZvhsRug&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiB4cOdkcXdAhVDhywKHdF4BS0Q9QEwCnoECAUQB A#imgrc=g3-hHmfbiAfMvM:

EMT were industrial but gorgeous

https://www.google.kz/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBKZ773KZ773&biw=1280&bih=584&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=wD6hW9bUGM3PrgT02abQBQ&q=EMT+turntable+&oq=EMT+turntable+&gs_l=img.3..0i30k1j0i8i30k1l2j0i24k1.554961.566343 .0.567070.32.20.0.0.0.0.601.3010.0j7j4j1j0j1.13.0. ...0...1c.1.64.img..19.13.3004...0j0i67k1j0i10k1j0 i10i24k1.0._gvp0gysmio#imgrc=Ta2Gf7Y1BpJ6dM:

I still like the look ok of my Pioneer PCL590

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1735/42632444092_b83f26790d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/27Xhqkw)20180607_220738 (https://flic.kr/p/27Xhqkw) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

My old LP12

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5611/15480671122_1dd129aa02_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pzYubN)LP12 (https://flic.kr/p/pzYubN) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

My old Michell Gyro with Orbe platter
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3929/15420466085_5277d4345c_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/puDVjV)IMG_1521 (https://flic.kr/p/puDVjV) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

Alan

Jimbo

18-09-2018, 18:46

Your Pioneer is a stunning turntable Alan. :thumbsup:

Marco

18-09-2018, 21:27

Yes, and it features a platter with proper 'girth', too!:eyebrows:

More Gates broadcast loveliness, courtesy of Radio 1, from 'back in the day':

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/oAM8YN.jpg

And a minty Gates CB-77:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/515/gatestt.jpg

Me WANTS!:drool:

Marco.

P.S Check out the Koss headphones, too. I've got a pair of those, and they sound fab.

Marco

18-09-2018, 21:39

Marco

18-09-2018, 21:53

More broadcast heaven, this time courtesy of Rek-o-Kut:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/yYgKJK.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/RXwwYH.jpg

Now *that* is a headshell!:eyebrows: Lovely vintage Pickering cartridge under there, too...

Marco.

Marco

18-09-2018, 21:57

And a Denon bad-ass broadcast T/T:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/GIGg4S.jpg

Ya gots ta lurve a T/T with VU meters!:D

Marco.

RobbieGong

18-09-2018, 22:00

And a Denon bad-ass broadcast T/T:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/GIGg4S.jpg

Ya gots ta lurve a T/T with VU meters!:D

Marco.

Timeless n classy :thumbsup:

Marco

18-09-2018, 22:03

And me own wee effort (with various cartridges):

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/911/gV5znT.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/907/QxUEyr.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/910/YUrzvN.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/907/83nGwa.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/537/jN6AtK.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/444/2957987590071997495s600.jpg
Marco.

Marco

18-09-2018, 22:23

Another beautiful implementation of an SP10:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/661/6n8S2t.jpg

And my most preferred implementation of a Garrard 401:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/673/tG5GP4.jpg

I much prefer that to the usual 'oversized' slate plinths one sees! I like it when the motor unit in question snugly fits the plinth its in, without any unnecessary gaps:)

Marco.

Marco

18-09-2018, 22:39

Marco

18-09-2018, 23:05

Tony Lonorgan (of pfm)'s GORGEOUS Thorens TD-124:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/580/33623135916936d1f1a9o.jpg

Love how that's been 'plinthed'!:thumbsup:

Marco.

struth

18-09-2018, 23:43

337alant

19-09-2018, 00:28

Beobloke

19-09-2018, 09:18

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/RXwwYH.jpg

Now *that* is a headshell!:eyebrows: Lovely vintage Pickering cartridge under there, too...

Marco.

Bloody hell, you do like ugly headshells don’t you?! :)

I’m with you on the EMTs, though. There’s a chap on Lenco Heaven that has restored a twin EMT console to an incredibly high standard, and I love that. I’ll find it and steal a picture later...

Beobloke

19-09-2018, 11:49

As promised...

https://i.imgur.com/6lCzp0N.jpg

Might try and snap a few of the 'supermodels' in the Beobloke collection tonight!

struth

19-09-2018, 12:39

As promised...

https://i.imgur.com/6lCzp0N.jpg

Might try and snap a few of the 'supermodels' in the Beobloke collection tonight!

thats a nice sight... industrial but cool

Barry

19-09-2018, 20:35

Love the 'industrial' and purposeful look of these EMTs:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/661/7GBsWz.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/837/sq95.jpg

Now that's a set-up I'd happily own!!:wow:

Marco.

That EMT 237F (with twin arm cuing mechanisms) is a rare beast.

It looks like a 10" LP is being played, actually it's a 12" diameter record as the 927 was designed to play 16" diameter records. The EMT 948 shown below has a 13" platter, as does the EMT 930.

Love the industrial/laboratory look of the EMT preamp, but like the CDP below it, I would like to see it fitted into a nice wood-clad 19" rack mount.

One of my Thorens TD124s looks very similar to the one shown. :)

Vrajbasi

20-09-2018, 11:01

Mark (YNWAN)'s T/T, of completely his own design, for me, is also a looker:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/I15hyE.jpg

Again, simple clean lines and no bling, is the order of the day!:cool:

Marco.

I love the look of Marks design just looks so clean, as I come from a middle eastern background I do like a bit of bling but in moderation I do own a gold plated sme 30/12 turntable after all. I dont really like the look of my EMT 927 and get all sorts of greif from the family about its looks.

speedracer

20-09-2018, 12:26

Well I have just bought a turntable I freely admit I don't really like the look of, but once it is re-painted & put in a better plinth (which most of you will no doubt hate), I will like it a lot more.

http://i63.tinypic.com/9gx7cy.jpg

struth

20-09-2018, 12:30

saw this one in cream. only one ive seen

http://i.imgur.com/Z4edRO7.jpg

Barry

20-09-2018, 12:55

saw this one in cream. only one ive seen

http://i.imgur.com/Z4edRO7.jpg

Can't say I like the look of that. :( Must have been a re-spray job.

I think it comes down to how well the colour of the chassis matches/compliments the colour of the "Garrard 401" logo plate. That is why I think the bronze re-spray of Brook's 401 works, as I believe some of the (early?) 401s were finished in dark brown rather than grey.

http://i63.tinypic.com/9gx7cy.jpg

Barry

20-09-2018, 13:52

https://sme.co.uk/audio/wp-content/uploads/sites/1/2017/03/1825_D18_0478-Edit_LR-1024x683.jpg

Ugh!

YNWaN

20-09-2018, 14:16

karma67

29-09-2018, 21:22

https://sme.co.uk/audio/wp-content/uploads/sites/1/2017/03/1825_D18_0478-Edit_LR-1024x683.jpg

Ugh!

does anyone else look at this and just think K&N air filters?:lol:

Barry

29-09-2018, 21:27

does anyone else look at this and just think K&N air filters?:lol:

I might if I knew what K&N air filters looked like.

I cited it as an example of a vulgar application of gold plate to tart up what is a very dull, if not ugly, looking TT.

struth

29-09-2018, 21:27

if you took away the gold and the 4 upper posts it would be a nice deck. surprising how some folk think that is nice....

karma67

29-09-2018, 21:36

here you go barry,just for you.
https://www.carpowergrid.com/k-n-rc-1060-universal-chrome-bike-air-filter/

ReggieB

29-09-2018, 22:25

does anyone else look at this and just think K&N air filters?:lol:

Most definitely

https://www.bikesmedia.in/uploads/image/reviews/2015/jun/motorcycle-air-filters.jpg

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 08:38

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u488/narim108/271e45dc74a14f466b6088e5a61e643c_zpskqa9j9uh.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/narim108/media/271e45dc74a14f466b6088e5a61e643c_zpskqa9j9uh.jpg.h tml)

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 08:40

Primalsea

30-09-2018, 08:52

https://sme.co.uk/audio/wp-content/uploads/sites/1/2017/03/1825_D18_0478-Edit_LR-1024x683.jpg

Ugh!

I’m guessing that this version is for Footballers, Russian Oligarchs or other people with more money than taste...

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 08:52

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u488/narim108/Porter_Proscenium_web_zpsl24bom08.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/narim108/media/Porter_Proscenium_web_zpsl24bom08.jpg.html)

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 09:05

Walker Procenium ugly but boy does it perform

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 09:15

I’m guessing that this version is for Footballers, Russian Oligarchs or other people with more money than taste...

How many footballers buy hifi not many I suspect.

YNWaN

30-09-2018, 09:58

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 10:23

I don’t know this one, but I’m guessing it’s an early Rockport?

Its an Rockport Capella MK1 from 1992 I remember reading about it in absolute sound at the timehttps://gifyu.com/image/NW3U

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 11:42

Its an Rockport Capella MK1 from 1992 I remember reading about it in absolute sound at the time

The capella mk1 was meant to be a table top variant of the sirius mk2, it had an integral air suspension, air bearing and captured air bearing tonearm I wish I had bought one at the time it was going to cost me around £30000 at the time to import, my house was only £50000 at the time so seriously expensive turntatable

Marco

30-09-2018, 12:41

Image no worky, Nari....

Marco.

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 13:48

Rockport Capella mk2 with all option air bearing air suspension and tonearm

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/s-l1600-1.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NW3U)

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 13:50

The American Sound

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/L_001649-Test2.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NW3O)

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 14:06

I always like the sound of this especially the airtangent tonearm

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/nordic_airtangent3_med.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NW9l)

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 14:11

I loved owning my goldmund should have never let it go:donk:

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/goldmund.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NW9c)

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 14:18

A Freinds Garrard BBC DRD5

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/12472505_1427494300601481_7744394855394489965_n.jp g (https://gifyu.com/image/NW90)

Gazjam

30-09-2018, 14:20

I always like the sound of this especially the airtangent tonearm

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/nordic_airtangent3_med.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NW9l)

Gorgeous thing, love it.

Gazjam

30-09-2018, 14:21

I loved owning my goldmund should have never let it go:donk:

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/goldmund.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NW9c)

Always been the most amazing looking turntable to me, even as a small kid.
Still is, the later version wasn’t in the same league looks wise to me.

Stratmangler

30-09-2018, 15:23

da2222

30-09-2018, 15:49

Has that pot got pasta in it?

The American Sound

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/L_001649-Test2.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NW3O)

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 15:52

Heard this one off white Rockport a few times very impressive

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/11061337_889920927754390_8905954270735945371_n.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NWEy)

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 16:47

Always been the most amazing looking turntable to me, even as a small kid.
Still is, the later version wasn’t in the same league looks wise to me.

Tottaly agree have not heard one so cant comment on its performance

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/image.php.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NW7J)

Gazjam

30-09-2018, 17:01

https://sme.co.uk/audio/wp-content/uploads/sites/1/2017/03/1825_D18_0478-Edit_LR-1024x683.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/0yqmM91F/SME-_Model-30-2-one-2_-_Copy.jpg

It's funny how a bit of gold can change one's perception.
It looks quite purposeful without the bling.

Hmnn...
your not wrong.
(I prefer the non bling version personally - seen the blinged up SME V back at a Wigam show when I was smitten (and that was a major bucket of cold water to the genitals!) but the SME deck...oh to be able to afford either!

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 18:11

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/13245500_1029421083804373_6493258316157438292_n-1.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NWIU)

Vrajbasi

30-09-2018, 20:51

Not my cup of tea in the looks department the Tech Das Airforce three premium

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/5a6ecd694fac0_TechDASAirForcePremium_6.jpeg.05fa68 f9bb79669ce36b2ef7a3662e6f.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NWQ1)

nickbaba

01-10-2018, 06:22

Nari has been posting pics of some incredibly high-end TTs on here, the Rockport, the Goldmund etc... I'm sure they must sound phenomenal (I've never heard any of them) but boy, are they ugly! Huge lumpy, boxy things... Like equipment I'd expect to see in an industrial workshop of some kind. I couldn't imagine living with any of them , or having one in my living room. Vanishingly low WAF at that level of audio commitment.
I guess at those rarefied altitudes form follows function entirely. Aesthetic considerations are secondary, if at all relevant. I suppose some might love the look, it takes all sorts, but defo not my cup of tea.

nickbaba

01-10-2018, 08:04

Ammonite Audio

01-10-2018, 08:14

Oh Dear God! :spew:

Not my cup of tea in the looks department the Tech Das Airforce three premium

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/5a6ecd694fac0_TechDASAirForcePremium_6.jpeg.05fa68 f9bb79669ce36b2ef7a3662e6f.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NWQ1)

Vrajbasi

01-10-2018, 09:31

Now this, to me, is a good-lookin' table...

Must admit I like the shiny wood look... kind of reminds me of a Bentley or a Roller, a beefy bit of high-end British engineering, all shiny wood veneers and understated power...

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26153&d=1457444230

I always liked the look of the garrards and the 124 etc and they perform well, I like the big decks like a goldmund rockport etc they have a power and scale that leaves all else behind in my opinion but practical they are not. You cant beat for instance a big meaty platter.

Spectral Morn

01-10-2018, 10:05

I always like the sound of this especially the airtangent tonearm

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/nordic_airtangent3_med.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NW9l)

Nordic Concepts I think? If so I know the previous distributor well, Simon a lovely guy, great character, can talk for the universe.

Edit - Just checked yes Nordic Concepts Reference model with built in Vitus sourced phono stage.

Vrajbasi

01-10-2018, 10:54

A new Japanese offering the CS PORT AIR FLOAT TAT1 TURNTABLE personally the kind of deck I would be happy to live with, all the right ingredients that make an interesting turntable.

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/slide03.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/Nc00)

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/slide03-1.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NcJC)

Vrajbasi

01-10-2018, 10:55

Nordic Concepts I think? If so I know the previous distributor well, Simon a lovely guy, great character, can talk for the universe.

Edit - Just checked yes Nordic Concepts Reference model with built in Vitus sourced phono stage.

Yes Nordic Concepts I owned one of these lovely thing, simon is a great guy. The together with the Airtangent 2002 worked great

alphaGT

02-10-2018, 07:38

Now this, to me, is a good-lookin' table...

Must admit I like the shiny wood look... kind of reminds me of a Bentley or a Roller, a beefy bit of high-end British engineering, all shiny wood veneers and understated power...

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26153&d=1457444230

That is a beautiful piece of work! Real eye candy, if it sounds as good as it looks, then it must be something! I’d love to have a guitar to match

Russell

Riislingen

02-10-2018, 16:47

What is that head shell on the first two pics, Marco? Is it made of marble or something similar?

And me own wee effort (with various cartridges):

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/911/gV5znT.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/907/QxUEyr.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/910/YUrzvN.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/907/83nGwa.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/537/jN6AtK.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/444/2957987590071997495s600.jpg
Marco.

da2222

02-10-2018, 17:01

Why oh why did Technics change the pitch control lighting from green to blue?? Love the colour blue but I find it so tacky when used for lighting of any kind...

What is that head shell on the first two pics, Marco? Is it made of marble or something similar?

Riislingen

02-10-2018, 18:17

I'm sure it's a custom job, Drew

da2222

02-10-2018, 18:22

I'm sure it's a custom job, Drew

The lighting??

Riislingen

02-10-2018, 18:40

The lighting??

Yup

nickbaba

02-10-2018, 22:11

I'd take blue lights over red any day.

(I changed all the red lights on my 1210 for blue - much prefer it that way, listening in a low light environment. Red is too alarming.)

walpurgis

02-10-2018, 22:18

How about green? :)

Vrajbasi

03-10-2018, 07:29

I borrowed one of these recently the Direct Drive Kodo beat turntable very fine turntable indeed, sadly cant justify another turntable.

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/11067195885_90b874993c_b.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/N6KN)

walpurgis

03-10-2018, 07:50

Unfortunately, the first thing that sprang to mind seeing that was 'bathroom fixture'.

prestonchipfryer

03-10-2018, 08:06

Unfortunately, the first thing that sprang to mind seeing that was 'bathroom fixture'.

:lol:

WESTLOWER

03-10-2018, 08:48

Unfortunately, the first thing that sprang to mind seeing that was 'bathroom fixture'.

A bathroom system!:eyebrows:
Now there's a thought!...

Ammonite Audio

03-10-2018, 14:41

Unfortunately, the first thing that sprang to mind seeing that was 'bathroom fixture'.

A bit 'Armitage Shanks', that!

Vrajbasi

03-10-2018, 16:20

Unfortunately, the first thing that sprang to mind seeing that was 'bathroom fixture'.

White not too my taste

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/1659678-kodo-beat-turntable-direct-drive-beauty-magnetic-drive-system.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/N8HI)[video]

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/IMG_9624.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/N8HW)

Barry

03-10-2018, 21:00

Doesn't look any better in black either. Both versions look clumsy and bulky IMO.

Vrajbasi

04-10-2018, 11:17

Doesn't look any better in black either. Both versions look clumsy and bulky IMO.

Shows how we all like different things I hate the look of my EMT927 or the thorens 124 or any garrard, I tend to go for big platters etc and even like a bit of gold.

Barry

04-10-2018, 14:48

Haha - well then you won't like the looks of any of my TTs: an EMT930 and three Thorens TD124/IIs.

But as the Romans would say: suum cuique.

By the way - talking of Garrards, how is your friend's BBC Garrard secured to the plinth? The fixing screws are missing.

Marco

04-10-2018, 19:10

Doesn't look any better in black either. Both versions look clumsy and bulky IMO.

Completely agree! Sorry, Nari. Both of those T/Ts have been slapped heavily with the ugly stick:spew:

Marco.

Marco

04-10-2018, 19:16

A bathroom system!:eyebrows:
Now there's a thought!...

Weeel... I've got ceiling speakers installed directly above our (large, free-standing enamel) bath, which are fed from my main system upstairs. Aside from it sounding pretty good, you can have some naughty fun, plugging a microphone into the cassette deck, and making some 'little announcements' from upstairs at folks below having a pish...:eyebrows::D

Marco.

bonzo

10-10-2018, 19:09

I agree never liked the perspex clear audios etc and most other perspex deck, I kind of like the la luce as its rare qwerky and made by a woman who could not care if any are sold. I even heard she expects the deck to be picked up from holland.

I never heard the La Luce but heard the SPJ Alba, and fell in love with turntables. I need to listen to it again

bonzo

10-10-2018, 19:10

I have Just purchased the Phantom Elite 12" its mounted on the Sme 30/12 for now, he developed the elite on the Techdas Airforce one the elite is quite a step forward over the Phantom 3 that I recently sold to a Sme 30/2 owner. I have owned a few phantoms over the years and had a few problems with build etc but still have a soft. The Series Kondo badged V-12 works well on the Micro Seiki I did try the Elite and like the V-12 on the micro. The thales simplicity 2 sounds great on the 30/12. My dealer had a plate made to try the fr66 fidelity research on the 30/12 and just did not work we tried a host of cartridges but sounds amazing on the micro. Bob graham used to own a 30/2 when Sumiko were the importers into the United States I owned a 30/2 graham phantom and prior to that a 2.2 so used to communicate with bob on a regular basis.

Do you use it to adjust VTA for each record?

bonzo

10-10-2018, 19:12

I always thought I could never live with a Lenco they never looked good I have a friend in Austria who uses one with Thomas Mayer gear sounds fabulous but as far as looks for get it this one is rather nice nice to see a bit of innovative thinking.

The PTP is not detailed enough. I have heard the Thomas Mayer 1.25 amp with 46 valves, compared to the 211 dual differential 4 box, and also heard the phono and the 4 box preamp. Amazingly transparent stuff, upstream was the Vyger Indian Signature with the purest of old original LPs

bonzo

10-10-2018, 19:15

The American Sound

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/L_001649-Test2.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/NW3O)

My first report on the above TT is here http://zero-distortion.org/vintage-exotica-siemens-bionor-and-turntables/

I will be putting up a report on the advanced model tonight, comparing to Techdas Af1 premium and a modded EMT 927 through 300k Cessaro Gamma II, many carts including Airtight Opus, Clearaudio GFS, the new VDH master Sig Stradivarius, Zyx Universe Premium. SAT and SME 3012r arms. EMT phono stage

Vrajbasi

10-10-2018, 19:34

I never heard the La Luce but heard the SPJ Alba, and fell in love with turntables. I need to listen to it again

I have owned the alba one heck of a beast

bonzo

10-10-2018, 19:35

I have owned the alba one heck of a beast

Wow very rare to find someone who owned it

Vrajbasi

10-10-2018, 19:38

My first report on the above TT is here http://zero-distortion.org/vintage-exotica-siemens-bionor-and-turntables/

I will be putting up a report on the advanced model tonight, comparing to Techdas Af1 premium and a modded EMT 927 through 300k Cessaro Gamma II, many carts including Airtight Opus, Clearaudio GFS, the new VDH master Sig Stradivarius, Zyx Universe Premium. SAT and SME 3012r arms. EMT phono stage

I look forward to reading this, I did hear you went to Thailand to hear the mighty american sound. I admire your dedication

Vrajbasi

10-10-2018, 19:40

Wow very rare to find someone who owned it

I have also owned the laluce very different turntables the Alba has scale and drive the laluce has air and space with a most amazing midrange and sound stage

jostber

15-01-2019, 01:49

The Goldnote turntables are on the beautiful side:

Mediterranneo

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56533543e4b0280166a06ccc/t/5bbf4632c830254051165bfd/1539262010597/Mediterraneo?format=1500w

Giglio

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56533543e4b0280166a06ccc/t/5bbf252ce2c483b5698bdc0b/1539253563561/Giglio?format=1500w

RobbieGong

15-01-2019, 08:51

Very attractive for sure

Made in 1968

20-01-2020, 21:28

Another Michell design, the Focus One was lovely; nice clean lines... Think it won the TT award here as nicest deck a few years ago

Yeh it was my Michell. It won the 1st prise 5th December 2014

topoxforddoc

20-01-2020, 21:47

Yeh it was my Michell. It won the 1st prise 5th December 2014

With the red suede...

Shovel_Knight

20-01-2020, 21:48

White not too my taste

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/1659678-kodo-beat-turntable-direct-drive-beauty-magnetic-drive-system.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/N8HI)[video]

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/IMG_9624.jpg (https://gifyu.com/image/N8HW)

I guess this was designed by an engineer, not by a person who's been to an art/design school. The platter is located in the center of the plinth, but the tonearm to the right throws it off-balance visually and the platter looks slightly off-center. This would drive me crazy.

struth

20-01-2020, 21:55

I guess this was designed by an engineer, not by a person who's been to an art/design school. The platter is located in the center of the plinth, but the tonearm to the right throws it off-balance visually and the platter looks slightly off-center. This would drive me crazy.The kodo beat. Quite nice design values in to I believe. Variable torque etc. Quite heavy too.

Barry

20-01-2020, 22:03

Still looks ugly, despite its performance.

That applies to all of the Goldmund, Rockport and Air Tangent designs as well.

Shovel_Knight

20-01-2020, 22:07

I'm pretty sure it's a great turntable. The motor looks lovely. Lacking in the visual department though :-)

WESTLOWER

21-01-2020, 09:06

I guess this was designed by an engineer, not by a person who's been to an art/design school. The platter is located in the center of the plinth, but the tonearm to the right throws it off-balance visually and the platter looks slightly off-center. This would drive me crazy.

Not if you stuck another arm on the left hand arm pod!! :eyebrows:

WESTLOWER

21-01-2020, 09:18

Still looks ugly, despite its performance.

That applies to all of the Goldmund, Rockport and Air Tangent designs as well.

IMHO the Rockport TTs are just beautiful. Performance wise they leave everything else for dust..

Barry

21-01-2020, 09:26

IMHO the Rockport TTs are just beautiful. Performance wise they leave everything else for dust.

Really?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/62/8c/47/628c47c0d1694a1075424feb001f0516.jpg

Well I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :rolleyes:

WESTLOWER

21-01-2020, 09:37

Really?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/62/8c/47/628c47c0d1694a1075424feb001f0516.jpg

Yup... cracking engineering and looks the absolute dogs bollocks. yes lovely... even in a shitty out of focus low res picture!

Well I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :rolleyes:

Possibly an age thing! ;)

Barry

21-01-2020, 10:21

I didn't comment on the engineering, only the cosmetics. As a piece of engineering it does look impressive, but hardly beautiful.

De gustibus non est disputandum, suum cuique.

WESTLOWER

21-01-2020, 10:55

De gustibus non est disputandum, suum cuique.

"Mange tout" as Del says

Shovel_Knight

21-01-2020, 11:01

Not if you stuck another arm on the left hand arm pod!! :eyebrows:

Nope, it doesn't eliminate the vast expanse of emptiness to the left because the arm on the left-hand side is behind the platter :ner:

WESTLOWER

21-01-2020, 11:08

Nope, it doesn't eliminate the vast expanse of emptiness to the left because the arm on the left-hand side is behind the platter :ner:

cor blimey.. i bet you're a right one to live with with! :lol:

AJSki2fly

21-01-2020, 11:19

Really?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/62/8c/47/628c47c0d1694a1075424feb001f0516.jpg

Well I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :rolleyes:

If I win the Lottery one day one of these would be well up on my list of purchases, possibly along with some Rockport speakers and a bespoke listening room.

Lucerne

21-01-2020, 13:41

Latest (last?) Yorke looks pretty cool IMO

https://i.imgur.com/HqkWk5I.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PnubKto.jpg

oldius

21-01-2020, 17:55

http://www.torqueo-audio.it/zebrano-exclusive/

scotty38

21-01-2020, 18:02

http://www.torqueo-audio.it/zebrano-exclusive/

They look cheap... :lol:

oldius

21-01-2020, 18:06

Absolutely no idea how much but they are delicious to look at!

AJSki2fly

21-01-2020, 18:18

Absolutely no idea how much but they are delicious to look at!

Here you go https://snvinyl.co.uk/Torqueo-T-34-Exclusive-Idler-Turntable

oldius

21-01-2020, 19:21

http://snvinyl.co.uk/WebRoot/Daily/Shops/eshop943300/5A7B/3DB9/BC19/4394/2A5F/0A0C/05BD/EC0C/1754107-torqueo-audio-turntable-t34-exclusive_m.jpg

I’ve never heard of it before.

I’ve got more time for the Simon Yorke though and a lot more for the Rockport.It's a thread about beauty. Now the Rockport is reputed to be the best ever but a looker it ain't!

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

Made in 1968

21-01-2020, 20:29

My idea of a Beautiful turntable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF3Fk0NpxRE

Barry

21-01-2020, 20:47

How do you change the speed?

Made in 1968

21-01-2020, 20:51

The two perspex lugs sticking up you just turn them like you would a rotart selector knob

RobbieGong

21-01-2020, 20:55

My idea of a Beautiful turntable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF3Fk0NpxRE

Yeah, I get ya - sleek, stylish simplicity, a bit like a woman who is naturally beautiful, no makeup, accessories nothing, just naturally beautiful without any added emphasis

Made in 1968

21-01-2020, 20:57

Exactly

struth

21-01-2020, 20:57

A simplified 1202 I think. Lovely decks. Most b and o stuff is.
The fully auto feature is really useful for folk like me who have difficulties now.
I always was going to get a banger but it never happened..

Maybe one day. If for nothing else, the style. A friend used to have a full set when I was an apprentice to him.. Git lol

Made in 1968

21-01-2020, 21:04

Tis Grant a simpler version.. This is the deck that was featured on the Pink Floyd "Money" official Video

struth

21-01-2020, 21:16

Shovel_Knight

21-01-2020, 21:49

Took me a day to fit a cart to a head shell..

I'm 36 and have no complaints about my manual dexterity, recently I was asked to fit a cartridge and it took me 3 bloody hours because the included round nuts were just supremely annoying and the mounting hardware I usually use was not compatible (the heads of the screws were too large and failed to clear the cartridge body). That's why I love cartridges with threaded bodies and headshells with threaded holes!

walpurgis

21-01-2020, 21:52

I love cartridges with threaded bodies and headshells with threaded holes!

But the former will not work with the latter. :)

Shovel_Knight

21-01-2020, 21:55

But the former will not work with the latter. :)

Yes. Threaded headshells are useful for cartridges with no threaded holes, like Denons for example.

Barry

21-01-2020, 21:56

The two perspex lugs sticking up you just turn them like you would a rotart selector knob

Ah - so it not only selects the record diameter for the auto lift/lower facility, but when 17 is selected (17cm = 7"), the speed automatically changes to 45rpm.

That's clever.

B&O always made stylish looking kit - often disparagingly referred to as "Habitat Hi Fi" by those who had never heard their gear. But B&O made gear that not only looked good, it sounded good as well.

Made in 1968

21-01-2020, 23:08

Ah - so it not only selects the record diameter for the auto lift/lower facility, but when 17 is selected (17cm = 7"), the speed automatically changes to 45rpm.

That's clever.

B&O always made stylish looking kit - often disparagingly referred to as "Habitat Hi Fi" by those who had never heard their gear. But B&O made gear that not only looked good, it sounded good as well.

Thats it Barry, thats how it works.. Aye they made some great stuuf. I always like the '5700' speaker even though it used Celestion 'HF2000' & 'MF500'.. '5702' were also good.

AJSki2fly

22-01-2020, 06:45

That's why I love cartridges with threaded bodies and headshells with threaded holes!

I have never really understood how a head shell with threaded holes is good, does it not restrict getting the stylus in the exact position, or is the head shell designed for specific cartridges and arm use only? Or I suppose moving the arm to get position correct.

Made in 1968

22-01-2020, 12:21

Our own beo man will likely have 10 of them stashed [emoji23]. Took me a day to fit a cart to a head shell.. Poor fingers and eyesight. Can't stand and trying to do it in a seat isn't easy.
Why I'm going digital tbh. I get music at touch of a mouse or phone screen.
Not so tactile of course but needs must and it sounds very good. Especially with my new speakers

Youll be ok with that B&O then you just slip the cartridge on & thats that, no wires, no lining up with protractors etc.. Theses statically balanced arms track like mad, Te arms are designed for perfect wall to wall tarcking.. I once saw a video of someone playing an LP with a B&O TT sat on its side..

Beobloke

22-01-2020, 12:49

Our own beo man will likely have 10 of them stashed [emoji23].

No - no 1202s or 1203s at the moment, Just a Beogram 2000 (the 1980s type), a Beogram 3000 (Acoustical motor unit), Beogram 4002, Beogram 5000 and a Beogram 8002.

:D

As an aside, the above Beogram 2000 is my favourite. Looks great, takes the later MMCx series cartridges and doesn't need any adjustment for standard speed or size - just hit Play and off it goes!

struth

22-01-2020, 12:52

Made in 1968

22-01-2020, 12:53

No - no 1202s or 1203s at the moment, Just a Beogram 2000 (the 1980s type), a Beogram 3000 (Acoustical motor unit), Beogram 4002, Beogram 5000 and a Beogram 8002.

:D

As an aside, the above Beogram 2000 is my favourite. Looks great, takes the later MMCx series cartridges and doesn't need any adjustment for standard speed or size - just hit Play and off it goes!

Well they maybe cool but i personally do not like the skinny arm & ugly platter, the earlier 1201 looked much more nice.. But at the end of the day is looks or SQ thats important? Afterall this topic is about looks..

Barry

22-01-2020, 14:04

I love the B&O MMC range of cartridges. Some of the best fixed-coil cartridge designs around.

(Slight thread drift! ;) )

Made in 1968

22-01-2020, 14:39

I love the B&O MMC range of cartridges. Some of the best fixed-coil cartridge designs around.

(Slight thread drift! ;) )
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I know you have a 'TD124' with SME in a none descript vintage plinth but i truly thought the B&O '3000' with the 'TD124'/B&O 'ST/L' Arm & plinth was really nice & ofc the bigger 12" version can be fitted with a quick armboard change..Those Beogram '3000' plinth designs looked brilliant ..

struth

22-01-2020, 14:46

Got a B&O sp1 that is usually on my TT.. its having a rest at moment

paulf-2007

22-01-2020, 15:54

Really?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/62/8c/47/628c47c0d1694a1075424feb001f0516.jpg

Well I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :rolleyes:
Beauty is in the eye of the sad lonely audiophool in that case

struth

22-01-2020, 16:03

Beauty is in the eye of the sad lonely audiophool in that case

no need for that

Made in 1968

22-01-2020, 16:13

Sorry but in my eyees that is Ugly..

paulf-2007

22-01-2020, 16:14

no need for that:lol:

Made in 1968

22-01-2020, 17:35

Ok if were doing Japanese High end.. Ill go with Onkyo 'PX-100', Beautifully simple..

337alant

22-01-2020, 17:36

That Trio L07D is a fabulous turntable Josie :stalks::eyebrows::cool:

Alan

Spectral Morn

22-01-2020, 18:07

Beauty is in the eye of the sad lonely audiophool in that case

One of the finest sounding turntables ever built, no looker thats for sure, but in regards to extracting information from the groves of a record, there are few better, even today.

Paul, please refrain from using a word like that. You can but dream of the delights such a turntable would get you, along with the rest of us, but anyone back in the day able to afford such a turntable not only can they sit back and enjoy wonderful sound, but also know that these are still regarded, desired and unlike many other turntables out there have held their value. Hardly a fool in my book, or that of anyone who has knowledge of the Rockports magic.

Words like audiophool will not be tolerated on AoS, and when a mod mentions anything in your writing that is an issue, laughing is not a good response.

Made in 1968

22-01-2020, 18:13

I used to hate Grey coloured equipment that was fashionable in the early 80's where a lot of Brit stuff was either Nextel or just plain grey paint finish, Brown was in fashion back then too. Nowadays i love the colours & dislike Black.. Ive never heard a 'L-07D, nor liked the look, they look like a mad scientist version of a Techy 'SP-10'' But i do remember it from the early 80's Hi-Fi Choice books..

WESTLOWER

22-01-2020, 18:47

Beauty is in the eye of the sad lonely audiophool in that case

comments like that just stink of jelously :rolleyes:

User211

22-01-2020, 19:42

I still think the Michell Gyrodec is one of the best looking decks ever made.

As to the ugliest, it’s a long list!My wife agrees.

I own an 80s Black & Gold one which I bought new after making a lot of money from some Wimbledon men's semi-final tickets.

Bury me with it;)

Primare

22-01-2020, 19:46

Having developed a vintage Pioneer bug I find my PLC-590 quite a looker. Could be that I'm a little bit biassed:scratch:

https://i.imgur.com/FIFJEdih.jpg

Beobloke

22-01-2020, 20:17

Having developed a vintage Pioneer bug I find my PLC-590 quite a looker. Could be that I'm a little bit biassed:scratch:

You probably are. But you're also right - it's a lovely thing!

Made in 1968

22-01-2020, 20:28

I think im more interested in the Verticle loader CD player, You dont see many of them & when you do they are sold by piss takers. Always wanted a Techy 'SLP-10'

Primare

23-01-2020, 22:45

I think im more interested in the Verticle loader CD player, You dont see many of them & when you do they are sold by piss takers. Always wanted a Techy 'SLP-10'

This one is the first CD of Pioneer, model P-D1.
Technics SLP-10 is very attractive.
And yes, these vintage CD players are really rare and pricy.

Ivo

337alant

24-01-2020, 09:21

Having developed a vintage Pioneer bug I find my PLC-590 quite a looker. Could be that I'm a little bit biassed:scratch:

Lovely turntable and they dont only look good they sound good as well:eyebrows:, I have one as well with a Micro Sieki MA505 tone arm

Alan

Gerry

25-01-2020, 09:32

Ok if were doing Japanese High end.. Ill go with Onkyo 'PX-100', Beautifully simple..Absolutely. They are stunning in looks and sound. Simple (electronic wise)they are not...trust me! 2 motors, one to start, one to drive.

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200125/c0efccacfc53a4ff39b5d9729c2b0be7.jpg

Made in 1968

25-01-2020, 20:07

Yeh i know but this this is about looks not technicalities

struth

25-01-2020, 20:12

Quite like the looks of me jbe slatedeck.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200125/e7617710f78230f8a4e493f82cd5ab5f.jpg

yolakim

25-01-2020, 20:54

That sure is a lovely looking deck.

I came across a picture of one of these recently. I am confident that I will own one at some point based on the looks alone...

https://www.audio-high-store.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Pioneer_PL-70L2.jpg

337alant

25-01-2020, 21:47

You know the Japs produced some very fine turntables back in the day :eyebrows:
Why were we all brainwashed by the UK HIFI press into believing that the only good turntable on the planet was a Linn LP12 :scratch::scratch::mental:

Alan

Made in 1968

25-01-2020, 22:22

British gear is not great imho, just that nutty Hi-Fi dudes seem to think that to be taken serious it had to be british.. Japs were very clever in what they did & the product finish was superb, They just got a bad name with a lot of the very cheap line of products, but at the end of they day they gave jo public exactly what they wanted & the prices they were happy to pay. However the High end stuff most of what never came in to this country or at least in tiny numbers was truly high end in every respect.

I use a Sony 'TA-1055' amp from the mid 70's that sounds a heep better than a lot of British gear i used to have..