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User211
16-07-2016, 15:27
Got a 4K TV plugged into a hi-fi system and some fast broadband? Check this out, via your telly's YouTube, not a computer, as your graphics card probably won't hack it. Sound quality is way, way above the YouTube average. Well done HT forum of Brazil.

Worth a look if you don't meet the above criteria.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZClDD16Cng


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etcZRoJaYEE
hornucopia
16-07-2016, 16:02
Nice mbl units at 202000 euros, playing heavy metal? (Jerry?)
If it takes multi-huge amps and thousands of pounds of speaker.......are we fiddling while Rome (Ankhara?) burns?
Nice post though. Can sit at home and sample!Through my simple amp and simple speakers!
User211
16-07-2016, 16:09
Run it through the Kuro Chris if you can it'll still look amazing:);)
danilo
16-07-2016, 16:58
Interesting vignette thanks.
My overall impressiion was: Sooo many variations on a theme.
Pretty well All sounds the same thru My desktop speakers :eyebrows:
Clearly there must be a few diehards who buy this stuff..or it would not be on sales display.
User211
30-07-2017, 12:39
Thread resurrection.

Speakers first rule?:D

Go on Jerry that amp looks like a must buy:): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Q9-HIFI-USB-DAC-built-in-6C3-vacuum-tube-amplifier-15W-15W-w-Headphone-amp-/311919925638?hash=item489fe05986:g:AJYAAOSwAlNZcAE S


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6dmUadZTtc
Macca
30-07-2017, 13:02
It's not bad is it? Built in DAC too. And features include a 'Beijing original 6C3 bile duct'. What's not to like?
walpurgis
30-07-2017, 13:07
I heard the JBL Paragon several times in the seventies. It was bloody awful. Dreadfully coloured. I can't see that any amount of modification would sort a flawed design.
User211
30-07-2017, 13:16
It's not bad is it? Built in DAC too. And features include a 'Beijing original 6C3 bile duct'. What's not to like?You spotted it. Made me smile too:) Doubtless Google translate.
User211
30-07-2017, 13:18
I heard the JBL Paragon several times in the seventies. It was bloody awful. Dreadfully coloured. I can't see that any amount of modification would sort a flawed design.Drivers at 45 degrees. Notice how the sound seems to improve a lot when the camera / mic actually lines up with them. The idea seems to be to bounce the sound off the middle section. Bizarre.
Macca
30-07-2017, 13:25
Drivers at 45 degrees. Notice how the sound seems to improve a lot when the camera / mic actually lines up with them. .

At a guess that is due to the microphone as the whole point of the Paragon design was to get a wide stereo image that you didn't need to be dead centre to perceive properly.
Arkless Electronics
30-07-2017, 13:36
I heard the JBL Paragon several times in the seventies. It was bloody awful. Dreadfully coloured. I can't see that any amount of modification would sort a flawed design.

Indeed I would expect it to be crap! However in possible defence of the thing, an ex colleague at MF and Alchemist reckoned it was the best sound he had ever heard! I've not heard it myself.
walpurgis
30-07-2017, 13:45
Indeed I would expect it to be crap! However in possible defence of the thing, an ex colleague at MF and Alchemist reckoned it was the best sound he had ever heard! I've not heard it myself.

A pair of front loaded 15" drivers in small sealed rear boxes with reflective surfaces all round, firing into a too short, undamped horn with parallel side walls will inevitably have major problems.

It's rather like using two Voigt horns on their sides. Except Voigt got his right(ish).
Starterman
30-07-2017, 16:08
Thread resurrection.

Speakers first rule?:D

Go on Jerry that amp looks like a must buy:): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Q9-HIFI-USB-DAC-built-in-6C3-vacuum-tube-amplifier-15W-15W-w-Headphone-amp-/311919925638?hash=item489fe05986:g:AJYAAOSwAlNZcAE S


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6dmUadZTtc

Sounds great through my JBLs modified by Len Ovo!
daveskis
05-02-2018, 20:22
Hey Marco where in Japan. And what name. I will be there in two weeks. Love the Japanese attitude to hi Fi....come to think their philosophy of life, food and and and....well back to the Cafe you know it will be in some town I will be driving through. I just know it.
Regards Dave
PS I altered my Westies a month ago. I will post progress