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Nice one, mate. it's a cool car, and good choice on the colour. Like the wheels, too:thumbsup:
Just showed it to the princess (as she finished early today), and she says it'll be a babe magnet!:D
...and if you visit, the first babes will be her and her pals, when you take them into Chester for a shopping trip - if you can handle it. She promises that they'll be good:eyebrows:;)
Don't worry, she'll have my credit card with her, you'll just be chauffeur, but it'll give me a break:carrot:
Marco,
rmcin626
17-09-2021, 13:34
Very nice Grant
Nice one, mate. it's a cool car, and good choice on the colour. Like the wheels, too:thumbsup:
Just showed it to the princess (as she finished early today), and she says it'll be a babe magnet!:D
...and if you visit, the first babes will be her and her pals, when you take them into Chester for a shopping trip - if you can handle it. She promises that they'll be good:eyebrows:;)
Don't worry, she'll have my credit card with her, you'll just be chauffeur, but it'll give me a break:carrot:
Marco,
after paying the cost, i wont have any cash left lol... but yes the more the merrier. 5 seater and im not putting a hoist in as im not allowed to reuse old one that is minty.. talk about a throwaway world.. a disgrace
Very nice Grant
cheers robin. yeah its even nicer inside. asked about pink ambient lights for the princess but no go marco... but he said he'd get me pink dice :lol: i said ive got some :eyebrows:. i showed him a pic of del; he guessed correctly at 22.:ner:
guy says that merc and bmw drivers are now coming for them too. wait time for mercs especially are astronomical
asked about pink ambient lights for the princess but no go marco... but he said he'd get me pink dice :lol: i said ive got some :eyebrows:. i showed him a pic of del; he guessed correctly at 22.:ner:
Lol, no worries about the pink lights, they get that anyway when they hire a limo, including pink-coloured sheepskin covered seats!:eek:
Did you honestly show him a pic of Del, or are you just jesting? If so, I hope it was a clean one, lol:D
Marco.
Lol, no worries about the pink lights, they get that anyway when they hire a limo, including pink-coloured sheepskin covered seats!:eek:
Did you honestly show him a pic of Del, or are you just jesting? If so, I hope it was a clean one, lol:D
Marco.
a very prim and proper one yes.. and he just about collapsed when i told him her age :lolsign: he said, FFS shes older than i am!!
so moral boost for princess, not that she needs one
Lol - depends what age he was!:lol:
So did showing off pics of your wee niece get you a good discount?:eyebrows:
Marco.
Lol - depends what age he was!:lol:
So did showing off pics of your wee niece get you a good discount?:eyebrows:
Marco.
he was about 40. i got a 795 quid paint job for free:eyebrows:
Haha, you're aff yer nut... Wonder what you'd have got if you'd taken the princess in with you!:eek::whistle::D
Marco.
Haha, you're aff yer nut... Wonder what you'd have got if you'd taken the princess in with you!:eek::whistle::D
Marco.
i reckon she will cause chaos if she is with me on pick up day:eyebrows:
Lol, now what would be a giggle, especially if she decided to 'play up' a bit!:lol:
You're a bad man:D
Marco.
Lol, now what would be a giggle, especially if she decided to 'play up' a bit!:lol:
You're a bad man:D
Marco.
Which she would of course lol.. She wouldnt be able to resist:D
Lawrence001
17-09-2021, 20:25
Just ordered one of these..
I must be mad [emoji23] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210917/d0e759fe7b1d3c46a7ffd8807fc63185.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210917/75af9dad9dabf610216c5dde1f721c12.jpgThat's what we've got, It's our second one now. Great cars really. Have you got the glass roof, it's very nice.
That's what we've got, It's our second one now. Great cars really. Have you got the glass roof, it's very nice.Yes a panoramic glass roof. Doesnt open tho
Pieoftheday
24-09-2021, 17:53
Has anyone owned a Yamaha fz6 s2? Did you have issues with clutch/gears? Apparently' they're all like that sir' this is my second and yes they are! If you did own one did you have issues and did you try to fix? Ta Jim
Pigmy Pony
24-09-2021, 19:09
The original 600 Fazer used a detuned Thundercat engine. A logical progression would be that the FZ6 engine would be a retuned/detuned R6. If so your enquiry could be widened to include them.
Firebottle
25-09-2021, 06:32
Oh I know lol, I used to fall off mine regularly, to the extent that my dad called me the 'horizontal champion'!:D Fortunately, I didn't do myself any major harm, as the accidents were at low speeds.
The fun factor makes up for the risk, though, especially when you're younger. The princess would love me to get one, as she LOVES going fast on the back of bikes (and she'd probably look quite good in leathers:eyebrows:), and gets silly-excited on bikes, but it's not likely to happen.
Marco.
If Del is up for a bit of an adrenaline rush how about a tandem paramotor flight?
I can recommend https://cmparamotors.com/flying-experiences/
Pigmy Pony
25-09-2021, 11:03
If Del is up for a bit of an adrenaline rush how about a tandem paramotor flight?
I can recommend https://cmparamotors.com/flying-experiences/
That looks like a good way to find whether this is for you, and prices look reasonable. I'd give it a go :)
Pieoftheday
25-09-2021, 15:48
The original 600 Fazer used a detuned Thundercat engine. A logical progression would be that the FZ6 engine would be a retuned/detuned R6. If so your enquiry could be widened to include them.
Yes Steve a retuned R6 engine, the 2003 one I'm lead to believe, cracking engine:)
Took car out for a short run to see if my legs would be ok.. didnt want to waste petol either. Walking in and out of car was difficult but driving was actually less painful than sitting in my chair. There were not many cars about for a sunny sunday, so i think folk are protecting their supply somewhat.
cant wait for tablet time tho
Pigmy Pony
26-09-2021, 15:24
Bikes both sorted for fuel. Went down to local Tesco, where there was no diesel but still some unleaded. Put 10 litres of the posh stuff (still E5) into the Fireblade, then back home, returning with Anita's Aquila 650 to do the same.
hornucopia
27-09-2021, 14:09
Not as unique as an S-Cargo! I ran one for 7 years.
I broke the 100 mpg barrier this week, as I have been able to do most trips on battery power.
It won't last.
This week, I have broken the 200mpg barrier. I am averaging 201.something. incredible stuff. I am using a bit of petrol every now and then.
We have loads of it here too!
This week, I have broken the 200mpg barrier. I am averaging 201.something. incredible stuff. I am using a bit of petrol every now and then.
We have loads of it here too!
good stuff. i'd have liked a phev tbh but they are just too expensive
This week, I have broken the 200mpg barrier. I am averaging 201.something. incredible stuff. I am using a bit of petrol every now and then.
We have loads of it here too!
Crikey! :eek:
I'm a decimal point away from that, and not in the good direction.
boy, can that s car go:D
Runs at a snails pace.
just had a test drive in an ev..:eek: this was brought on as ive hurt my leg and wont by looks of it be driving far for forseable future. the 20 mi dive to the edge of edinburgh was proof that about as far as im gonna get i think. so sadly im gonna have to cancel my new qashqai as its too big and expensive for pottering about in, and it wont do car any good either,
just had a test drive in an ev..:eek: this was brought on as ive hurt my leg and wont by looks of it be driving far for forseable future. the 20 mi dive to the edge of edinburgh was proof that about as far as im gonna get i think. so sadly im gonna have to cancel my new qashqai as its too big and expensive for pottering about in, and it wont do car any good either,
That’s a real shame Grant. Hope the leg gets better soon.
Not sure an EV would fair very well not being used either?
One thing I would say though, is do you really need to own a car? If you look at the number of journeys you do and length, it might be cheaper and easier to use taxis locally, with trains added if you’re going any distance. There are also some car sharing schemes around, not sure if you have any near you.
I’m giving up my “daily driver” now I am home-based and will use my Land Rover for pottering locally and to the station to get trains when I need to.
That’s a real shame Grant. Hope the leg gets better soon.
Not sure an EV would fair very well not being used either?
One thing I would say though, is do you really need to own a car? If you look at the number of journeys you do and length, it might be cheaper and easier to use taxis locally, with trains added if you’re going any distance. There are also some car sharing schemes around, not sure if you have any near you.
I’m giving up my “daily driver” now I am home-based and will use my Land Rover for pottering locally and to the station to get trains when I need to.
yeah alex i did consider that but have great difficulty in getting into a passenger side due to to left hip. its easier on drivers side.. if back is high enough, but not too high, i can sometimes go behind driver.
buses are out; i cant get on and i live out of town on own so without a car im locked in house period...
apparently you just plug it in and leave it. if your not using much then dont fully charge it. it will save me a lot of money too so will be able to get a foldup scooter for back quicker too. ive said once the other car is cancelled i will order one. also a big saving on fuel.
Sounds the best compromise then. What EV did you try?
Sounds the best compromise then. What EV did you try?
it was a hyundai kona. if you get past the hard plastics, then otherwise its ok inside. not anywhre near the nissans level, but most importantly the seats felt very good and my head goes in and out easily. its got a fair turn of speed in sport mode too. think its about same price for the top model although im going for one level down, but my controbution is much less so im quids in before we consider fuel. it will do 250 on a charge in winter, and a fair bit more in summer.
Nice one, Hyundai are doing well with their EVs. We’re thinking about an Ioniq 5 for Sue and as the family car, it’s like a limo in the back!
Nice one, Hyundai are doing well with their EVs. We’re thinking about an Ioniq 5 for Sue and as the family car, it’s like a limo in the back!
i saw one in the showroom.. nice motor but a bit lower; too low for me
it was a hyundai kona. if you get past the hard plastics, then otherwise its ok inside. not anywhre near the nissans level, but most importantly the seats felt very good and my head goes in and out easily. its got a fair turn of speed in sport mode too. think its about same price for the top model although im going for one level down, but my controbution is much less so im quids in before we consider fuel. it will do 250 on a charge in winter, and a fair bit more in summer.
sounds like the right choice.
there is a lot of hard plastics in the kona, although its not overly uncommon in ev's im told. keeping price down i guess. if it were a petrol car i would have dismissed it, although tbh how often do you touch the dash etc. so at least it will wear well.
Plus you'll only use it for short trips so what does it matter? If you have to spend hours every day in the thing only then it's important.
Plus you'll only use it for short trips so what does it matter? If you have to spend hours every day in the thing only then it's important.
certainly for timebeing it will be. the dash electronics are colourful so it all helps. just have to wait see if he manages to get nissan cancelled.
Pigmy Pony
05-10-2021, 18:21
there is a lot of hard plastics in the kona, although its not overly uncommon in ev's im told. keeping price down i guess. if it were a petrol car i would have dismissed it, although tbh how often do you touch the dash etc. so at least it will wear well.
Which? magazine rated the Kona ev really highly. Hope you get sorted with the Nissan.
dave2010
06-10-2021, 14:28
Grant
Re Kona - seems a good option.
Comparing with other petrol cars with gears - doesn't really make sense - see https://www.hyundai.co.uk/new-cars/kona-electric?gclid=CjwKCAjwkvWKBhB4EiwA-GHjFgC9Ma3ecL1FeX9NEVhGID6yMukDoPdcnU4eQzV-iz9fr7KLuK884hoCGX4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds n
The EV should win hands down as effectively equivalent to an automatic. Also it will be relatively low pollution.
I'd still view the mileage claims with some scepticism, but it should be OK. Definitely go for the wall charger, but might be worth considering getting one with a tethered cable, otherwise the cable will probably get left lying around in the kitchen or elsewhere from time to time, collecting dirt and making the place untidy.
Also check out the charging software. Ideally you'd want to get a decent charge in about four hours overnight or in off peak times to keep the costs low. Some cars have start and end times for charging, some have mobile phone or computer apps to control the charge, but some will just keep going, which isn't really a good idea unless they charge very quickly. Ideally keep the battery operating between 30-40% and 70-75% to maximise battery life and convenience. That way the EV will nearly always be available for short (but reasonable) trips. If you ever have to do a longer trip, then planning the charging can be more problematic, unless you don't care about costs. Definitely go for a faster charge model - though I think the Konas all have that. Not all EVs do, though manufacturers are now mostly putting fast charging into all their EVs.
One other thing - if doing low mileage, make sure the tyres are kept pumped up. Low tyre pressure really does noticeably affect the range and electricity consumption.
cheers dave.. you forgot its got a krell stereo too:eek: have to wait and see how it pans out re cancelling other
This week, I have broken the 200mpg barrier. I am averaging 201.something. incredible stuff. I am using a bit of petrol every now and then.
We have loads of it here too!
As expected, the cold and dark are starting to have an affect on the electric range. I am up to 50% consumption of my battery without pre heating the car. I may start using a bit of petrol soon on the way home.
I will try pre-heating the car tomorrow to see if it improves.
As expected, the cold and dark are starting to have an affect on the electric range. I am up to 50% consumption of my battery without pre heating the car. I may start using a bit of petrol soon on the way home.
I will try pre-heating the car tomorrow to see if it improves.
yes i believe battery performance drops with cold temps, say below 12c the battery preheating while on charger will help tho. also warming up the interior etc.
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-10081419/Mini-Moke-cult-TV-series-Prisoner-sold-auction.html
Prisoner fans want a moke?
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-10081419/Mini-Moke-cult-TV-series-Prisoner-sold-auction.html
Prisoner fans want a moke?
Crazy prices for a lot of classics these days - but then they are always going to reduce in numbers.
Pigmy Pony
13-10-2021, 06:20
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-10081419/Mini-Moke-cult-TV-series-Prisoner-sold-auction.html
Prisoner fans want a moke?
I think I'd prefer his Lotus 7.
Anyway, enough chat about electric pish:D I put this in the Brabster today, and it's like rocket fuel:
https://forecourttrader.co.uk/latest-news/texaco-launches-its-first-99-octane-fuel-supreme-99-performance/659624.article
:wow: VROOOMM...!!
:hotrod::hotrod:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
14-10-2021, 06:25
Anyway, enough chat about electric pish:D I put this in the Brabster today, and it's like rocket fuel:
https://forecourttrader.co.uk/latest-news/texaco-launches-its-first-99-octane-fuel-supreme-99-performance/659624.article
:wow: VROOOMM...!!
:hotrod::hotrod:
Marco.
Texaco were probably keeping an eye on Shell's already-established 99 fuel to see how it sells, and decided it's worth it. Are there any figures published on performance gains? I could be tempted to stick some in the Volvo...
But my question is whether the performance gains are actually worth the higher price I assume it commands? I recently went over to Shell V-Power (which I assume is the same kind of thing) in order to get E5 fuel into the 'Blade rather than bog-basic (E10) unleaded. And I can't discern a difference to be honest. Mind you the bike is stupidly quick anyway (for an old 'un) :)
I could try the Texaco version next time, but I suspect all the 99 octane fuels will be much of a muchness.
Yeah, I agree with all of that. Of course 99 octane fuels have been around for some time, so Texaco, for whatever reasons, have been late to adopt it.
For me, it's not so much about the small increase in octane (or cetane level with diesel) improving performance, but rather which additives, from whatever fuel company concerned, does the best job at keeping influential key components of your engine clean, and therefore allow it to perform to the highest standards possible - and in my experience some fuels do that job notably better than others.
The additives used in 'premium' or 'supreme' fuels is what makes them more expensive and, in most cases, better for your engine over an extended period of time, than 'basic' varieties without such (or inferior versions of such) in them, sold in either supermarkets or independent filling stations, which is why I don't use them.
Therefore, it's important to consider that aspect of things and not focus too much on the small increase in octane or cetane levels, which in most cars the subsequent difference in performance will be negligible, but if one particular fuel, over time, does a much better job at removing any built-up sludge/deposits in your engine, and crucially through repeated use, maintains that level of cleanliness, then *that* is where you'll notice the difference!:)
In my case yesterday, I was directly comparing Texaco's previous Supreme Diesel (at 97 cetane), versus their new Supreme 99 Performance+ variety, crucially with its improved additives, and took the Brabster for a blast down the bypass (dual carriageway) towards Chester and back (approx 10 miles), and on the return journey definitely felt that the engine had a little more 'poke'. Therefore, whether the additives in the new fuel had removed gunk trapped somewhere in the engine, or whatever (such will always be the case, especially in diesels), there was definitely a noticeable small improvement in engine responsiveness after its use.
However, whether that will be the case in your bike, or anyone else's car, or not, will be subject to many variables, but I'll certainly be using it in the Brabster from now on!:cool:
Marco.
As an aside, that's one of the reasons why I dislike electric cars, as you can't do anything to 'tweak' or customise them... BOORRING!!
I never leave any decent car I own in its standard state, and instead love 'pimping' (or personalising) them, so that they're both different from the norm and also so I can release their full latent potential, in terms of handling and performance.
What is there to tweak, customise or improve on an electric car? Next to hee-haw, so you effectively end up driving the same 'homogenised box on four wheels' as the rest of the masses, devoid of any character or *personality*...
For a car enthusiast or 'petrolhead', where is the FUN in that??:rolleyes:
I think the 'powers that be' are doing everything that they can to stifle, and eventually eradicate, FREE choice (in many aspects of our lives) - and that's not a world I wish to be part of.
Marco (staunchly non-conformist and proud of it).
As an aside, that's one of the reasons why I dislike electric cars, as you can't do anything to 'tweak' or customise them... BOORRING!
Marco.
You can, read this https://www.torquecars.com/tuning/ev-tuning.php
Interesting, and thanks for that! However, this would concern me:
"It is worth noting that some electric car makers are voiding warrantees, limiting charge and restricting their service if onboard protection detects it has been tampered with (even so called undetectable systems have been detected)".
Therefore, that would need seriously looking into before (if I had an electric car) I'd attempt doing anything to it. I'd need cast iron guarantees from both the modification company concerned, and the car manufacturer, than the warranty was still going to be valid. I'd also need such assurances that later, when the car got older, that it would pass an MOT.
You see, this is the problem with overly computerising cars (or indeed anything else that's useful), and the introduction of things such as 'onboard protection' circuits, which simply impose CONTROL upon you - and that *massively* pisses me off, as I don't want to be controlled by such devices, and rather have the freedom to do as I wish, within reason, to the car that I own, as is the case now.
Marco [shuns anything that seeks to reduce his freedom or status as an individual, and become merely a 'number'].
most modern cars have sims that go back to hq now. there are good and bad reasons for it(mostly bad imo) and warrantees have always been voided if you alter it, as does insurances
Warranties, yes sometimes (you need to read the small print), but not insurances if you use a company, such as I do, that specialises in modified cars, and state exactly how the car has been modified. I've always had fully comp insurance for the Brabster on that basis, since day 1 of owning it:)
Marco.
yeah but standard insurance wont and folk get caught out for minor things that had no bearing on the claim..its just a get out clause. im betting much is same with ev alterations. the eu love this type of thing, and cars here follow their lead mostly
...which is why I'll unlikely ever own one. I may have been tempted eventually *if* I could pimp one without any adverse conseqiences, but otherwise, no.
Also, if you have a modified car, it's up to YOU to have the sense to have it properly insured (not, like a dumb ass, use standard insurance), so that the car is covered, and if not, hell mend you!
Marco.
A lot of electric cars will out perform their ICE equivalents. But you can still pimp them, if that is your thing.
The performance is shocking, in a good way. They just keep pulling and pulling. Instant torque? Yep, no problem...
Anyway, back to my PHEV. 3 degrees C when I left home this morning, so as expected my battery suffrered as I had the heating on to keep the windows clear. The commute was also 3 km longer today and I have used about 55% of the battery.
It means I will be burning some dino juice on the way home...
I am still pleased with the comfort of the car, but some of the gadgets are a pain, and need to be switched off.
ACC for one. The car tells me what speed I can go round a corner, and slows the car down to that speed? No thanks....
my acc is only for motorways really so doesnt see corners, just cars in front. you can use it on normal rds but you have to take extra care.
can you not heat batteries and car when plugged in before you go out remotely?
Yes, the car is preheated before I leave home, but you still need to run the heater to clear the windows. I am sure I coukd get better range out of it if I accelerated a bit more gently, drove a bit slower etc. but where is the fun in that?
Yes, the car is preheated before I leave home, but you still need to run the heater to clear the windows. I am sure I coukd get better range out of it if I accelerated a bit more gently, drove a bit slower etc. but where is the fun in that?
ah ok. some can defrost and heat cabin to what you want before you go out apparently. handy in winter.. just need them to clear snow etc now:D
The ACC is also linked to the road sign recognition system, and it would appear to be linked to the GPS for bends etc.
Far too clever, but not a system I like. If it is turned on, I end up fighting it, as I don't need to slow down as much as it says I do. One bend on my daily route I can take safely at 60 kmh, and the car wants me to slow to 35kmh. At 35 kmh there is a risk of being rear ended as it brakes quite sharply.
You can override it by keeping your foot on the accelerator, but it is much easier to turn it off.
The ACC is also linked to the road sign recognition system, and it would appear to be linked to the GPS for bends etc.
Far too clever, but not a system I like. If it is turned on, I end up fighting it, as I don't need to slow down as much as it says I do. One bend on my daily route I can take safely at 60 kmh, and the car wants me to slow to 35kmh. At 35 kmh there is a risk of being rear ended as it brakes quite sharply.
You can override it by keeping your foot on the accelerator, but it is much easier to turn it off.
mi ne does see speed signs and motorway stuff but it only advises on speed. if a car is getting too close to front it slows and accelerates. its not as sophisticated as yours. the nissan and kona i looked at i think do more that way; certainly the nissan does have it, if you want it on etc. rear cross traffic is the best one when reversing out of drive or a parking space etc as it warns of pedestrians etc that you maybe havent seen. it doesnt stop you but gives a warning etc.
A lot of electric cars will out perform their ICE equivalents. But you can still pimp them, if that is your thing.
The performance is shocking, in a good way. They just keep pulling and pulling. Instant torque? Yep, no problem...
No-one's disputing that, Kevin. However, basic ones have all the personality of wallpaper paste! And that's why for those of us who like to stand out from the crowd and be an individual, [count me in] would seek to 'pimp' them - BUT *only* if there weren't any adverse repercussions.
Marco.
The ACC is also linked to the road sign recognition system, and it would appear to be linked to the GPS for bends etc.
Far too clever, but not a system I like. If it is turned on, I end up fighting it, as I don't need to slow down as much as it says I do. One bend on my daily route I can take safely at 60 kmh, and the car wants me to slow to 35kmh. At 35 kmh there is a risk of being rear ended as it brakes quite sharply.
That for me sounds like an utter nightmare, totally dangerous, and would result in the car being sold on the spot! It's essentially the car driving YOU, not vice versa, as it should be, and a classic overuse of technology that not only encourages laziness, but the solving of a problem that doesn't really exist.
Moreover, you can clearly see where we're heading in future, and a move to where the 'driver' just sits there, does nothing while the car takes over, and therefore simply becomes another passenger:rolleyes:
Ask yourself this: *who* could ultimately control the car's computer remotely, and therefore where YOU go?? The technology to do that already exists. You think that won't happen, if they're allowed to get away with it? THINK again....
Heaven help us all!:doh:
Marco.
Its a long, long way to manage that, thus until 100 percent of the vehicles on the road are fully autonomous — something many analysts think is actually highly unlikely — every autonomous vehicle will have to be able to respond to the edge cases plus countless quirks and tics exhibited by human drivers on a daily basis. It’s the stuff we’re able to swat away without missing a beat while driving ourselves, but getting computers to try to manage it is a really big deal (some feel impossible).
a lot of these gadgets are insisted on by eu and manufacturers need to provide them. is is going to be when they remove the off button
I didn't say it was going to happen overnight, Grant, but mark my words. that's where we're heading! Therefore, it has to start somewhere. Mobile phones didn't turn into smartphones overnight either, but it happened, and so it will with 'Smart' cars, driving on 'Smart' highways...
It's the future, and it's 'progress'!:doh:
Could you clarify your last sentence? As this bit doesn't make any sense:
a lot of these gadgets are insisted on by eu and manufacturers need to provide them. is is going to be when they remove the off button
Specifically, what "off button" are you referring to?
Ta:)
Oh, and all the more reason then not to buy a new car!
Marco.
yup but the unpredictability of nature, and humans on one side v computers on other is a tough one to align. computers have to be programmed for every eventuality and then have to correctly identify every one of them correctly, first time or it wont work.
To a human a gust of leaves or dust blowing asross rd is just that and ignored; to a computer that hasnt seen this, it sees an impact situation and emergency breaks etc; maybe even blows the airbags..
its these day to day anomalies that they are years from finding a way to program.
Sure, but see the edit to my last post, as you need to clarify something:)
In any case, the answer is, as far as possible, to LIMIT the amount of influence or control computers and modern technology have on your life. The less of that you have going on, the less you have to worry about it, simples!
Problem is, too many folks are 'wired' to want to have the latest new gadget and always be 'up to date' , and that drives things forward and changes our lives often in ways that are unwanted, and much quicker than would be the case if said people were in the minority or actually STOPPED and thought to themselves first: 'is this [whatever new gadget] [U]really going to be an asset to me in future, or something else?' before buying it!
Marco.
well off buttons as in being able to switch off certain "aids" in car. mostly you can if you wish, certainly in mine switch most off, or set sensitivity etc (for invasive aids) like steering you back into lane etc. but one day they may remove this; in fact they probably will(fascist bassas)
well off buttons as in being able to switch off certain "aids" in car. mostly you can if you wish, certainly in mine switch most off, or set sensitivity etc (for invasive aids) like steering you back into lane etc. but one day they may remove this; in fact they probably will(fascist bassas)
Exactly my point mate, which is why I refuse to entertain it. If there was no other option, I'd rather cycle, or walk!!;)
Marco.
That for me sounds like an utter nightmare, totally dangerous, and would result in the car being sold on the spot! It's essentially the car driving YOU, not vice versa, as it should be, and a classic overuse of technology that not only encourages laziness, but the solving of a problem that doesn't really exist.
Switching it off is easy, just like switching of a classic cruise control. Put your foot on the brake, or turn it off at the switch.
It is awesome in traffic jams. You set the distance, and the car does the rest.
Just leave it off on country roads…
Switching it off may be easy now mate, but not if that facility is ever removed, for reasons discussed. How often are you in traffic jams where you live? I thought you were fairly rural, no? I'm rarely in traffic jams or on motorways, so hardly ever use cruise control.
Anyway, I'm pleased that you're enjoying your car, Kevin, as that's what it's all about, and long may it provide you with enjoyment, but electric cars replete with all manner of 'driver aids' aren't for me. I'm not even a fan of automatic gearboxes. If I'd had the choice, I'd have chosen a manual one!
In a car, I like to do as much of the driving as possible (including parking and reversing) and be totally 'hands on', as otherwise it simply encourages laziness and erodes your inherent skills and judgement (as they say, if you don't use it, you lose it), and takes all the fun out of the experience.
These days, I don't drive many miles, so when I do, I want to be *actively* in control and immersed in the experience:)
Marco.
Beobloke
15-10-2021, 10:17
Reminds me of my first experience of adaptive cruise control a couple of years back.
I went to Germany for the day to see a work supplier, who were about an hour from Frankfurt Airport, and my hire car was a brand new Ford Kuga. Quite a nice thing actually and I pottered off to the supplier and then was returning in the evening during rush hour. I used the cruise control as it was pretty much a straight stretch of autobahn - not especially busy but there were quite a few lorries about - remember this fact!
Anyway, I get close to the airport, doing 75mph on the inside lane when I spotted a chap hammering up the middle lane in my rear view mirror, with his indicator on. There was a junction coming up ahead of me and I correctly surmised that he would be coming past me and then cutting across to take the exit, which he duly did. Now, yes, it was a bit of a twattish manoeuvre but he was going plenty fast, there was no traffic in front of me and as he passed across the front of me there was plenty of room and I was not forced to brake or disengage the cruise control. All good.
Unfortunately, the car didn't see it this way as, unbeknown to me, it had adaptive cruise control which was activated. Hence as the chap came across my lane, the car 'saw' him and slammed on the brakes. And I don't mean applied them gently - it slammed them on. I damn near shat myself and came close to smacking my face on the steering wheel. Now, maybe the software though it was doing a good thing but i have one big question - had there been one of those many lorries that I mentioned earlier up my chuff, would it have known? (luckily, there wasn't). If so, what would it have done? Was the software programmed to know that, in this case, braking to avoid a collision could have actually caused one by letting god knows how many tons of truck rear-end me? If so, what would it have done?
Needless to say, after I retrieved my tonsils from the dashboard and opened the window to let the smell out, i went into the car's menus and found the off switch for this feature. It took me two pints at the airport before my hands stopped shaking, though!
Like Marco, I hate stuff like this. When I'm driving, I want to be in charge. Not some random software.
Like Marco, I hate stuff like this. When I'm driving, I want to be in charge. Not some random software.
In a nutshell, mate... Good story, and you make a very valid point. No software yet invented can supercede the judgement of a competent human!
Trouble is, there are less and less of those around now, due to folk driving cars laden with 'aids', and forgetting how to *actually* drive!!:doh:
What shocks and depresses me in equal measure though, is how happy the masses are to adopt this stuff so readily, instead of questioning its genuine efficacy and safety, and where all this tech might lead to!
Marco.
Switching it off may be easy now mate, but not if that facility is ever removed, for reasons discussed. How often are you in traffic jams where you live? I thought you were fairly rural, no? I'm rarely in traffic jams or on motorways, so hardly ever use cruise control.
Anyway, I'm pleased that you're enjoying your car, Kevin, as that's what it's all about, and long may it provide you with enjoyment, but electric cars replete with all manner of 'driver aids' aren't for me. I'm not even a fan of automatic gearboxes. If I'd had the choice, I'd have chosen a manual one!
In a car, I like to do as much of the driving as possible (including parking and reversing) and be totally 'hands on', as otherwise it simply encourages laziness and erodes your inherent skills and judgement (as they say, if you don't use it, you lose it), and takes all the fun out of the experience.
These days, I don't drive many miles, so when I do, I want to be *actively* in control and immersed in the experience:)
Marco.
Small traffic jams every working day. It was awesome for a while, but now everything is getting back to normal, less people are working from home.
The important thing is to play with these gadgets, and decide when it is best to use them, based on knowing how they perform.
I am not sure “enjoying” is the right word for the new car. If I want enjoyment, I take the 7 out…. (It is like going from one extreme to the other though. No creature comforts. No driver aids. Hopefully I manage to stay in control, but is is not hard if I stick to the speed limits).
Happy is probably best, as it is comfortable, quiet, economic and has a little bit of poke when you want it.
Pigmy Pony
16-10-2021, 19:22
That for me sounds like an utter nightmare, totally dangerous, and would result in the car being sold on the spot! It's essentially the car driving YOU, not vice versa, as it should be, and a classic overuse of technology that not only encourages laziness, but the solving of a problem that doesn't really exist.
Moreover, you can clearly see where we're heading in future, and a move to where the 'driver' just sits there, does nothing while the car takes over, and therefore simply becomes another passenger:rolleyes:
Ask yourself this: *who* could ultimately control the car's computer remotely, and therefore where YOU go?? The technology to do that already exists. You think that won't happen, if they're allowed to get away with it? THINK again....
Heaven help us all!:doh:
Marco.
I am thinking about it, and thinking that I will hopefully be well retired before that becomes a reality. But I do feel sorry for the younger ones (not you Marco, you are also old :)) Imagine young Wayne phoning in sick so he can take his bird Sharon for a shopping trip to Primark, and the bloody car takes him to work instead. Forcing Sharon to get the bus home. Nightmare...
dave2010
17-10-2021, 09:20
Reminds me of my first experience of adaptive cruise control a couple of years back.
I went to Germany for the day to see a work supplier, who were about an hour from Frankfurt Airport, and my hire car was a brand new Ford Kuga. Quite a nice thing actually and I pottered off to the supplier and then was returning in the evening during rush hour. I used the cruise control as it was pretty much a straight stretch of autobahn - not especially busy but there were quite a few lorries about - remember this fact!
Anyway, I get close to the airport, doing 75mph on the inside lane when I spotted a chap hammering up the middle lane in my rear view mirror, with his indicator on. There was a junction coming up ahead of me and I correctly surmised that he would be coming past me and then cutting across to take the exit, which he duly did. Now, yes, it was a bit of a twattish manoeuvre but he was going plenty fast, there was no traffic in front of me and as he passed across the front of me there was plenty of room and I was not forced to brake or disengage the cruise control. All good.
Unfortunately, the car didn't see it this way as, unbeknown to me, it had adaptive cruise control which was activated. Hence as the chap came across my lane, the car 'saw' him and slammed on the brakes. And I don't mean applied them gently - it slammed them on. I damn near shat myself and came close to smacking my face on the steering wheel. Now, maybe the software though it was doing a good thing but i have one big question - had there been one of those many lorries that I mentioned earlier up my chuff, would it have known? (luckily, there wasn't). If so, what would it have done? Was the software programmed to know that, in this case, braking to avoid a collision could have actually caused one by letting god knows how many tons of truck rear-end me? If so, what would it have done?
Needless to say, after I retrieved my tonsils from the dashboard and opened the window to let the smell out, i went into the car's menus and found the off switch for this feature. It took me two pints at the airport before my hands stopped shaking, though!
Like Marco, I hate stuff like this. When I'm driving, I want to be in charge. Not some random software.Adaptive cruise control can be very good - if it works! With my Tesla model 3 it takes courage to set the "follow the car in front" feature, as in my opinion the distance between the vehicles in front and my own is not sufficient at high speed. If the car in front stops suddenly, or someone cuts in - as in your example - I just don't know if it'll work. There's an additional problem - if it's set to be on, then the driver might not have enough time to react if the automatic system doesn't work. Another problem is that there's no full driver control - it's either on or not. It will respond to the accelerator, but brakes kill it immediately. Suppose that one is prepared to trust the cruise control, but for some reason you put the brakes on - perhaps for extra safety. Then the cruise control - with whatever "safety features" it has is inactivated, and the driver has to remember that.
Apart from that the cruise control in my Tesla is hopelessly unreliable. Often it doesn't operate, either because of software issues, or because it thinks that the cameras aren't working. That last situation can happen if the cameras get really dirty, but they don't normally. It's sometimes possible to do a software reset, but that doesn't help if the car is running at speed.
Sadly there are features of the car which I really like - but Elon Musk and his outfit have to do a lot better than this for safe driving on UK roads. I could write a 5000 page essay on what's wrong with Tesla cars. The customer service is appalling, Many of the people are nice, but they operate in silos, and often haven't a clue about real issues, or in some cases about the technology. Many of their service staff don't actually drive EVs, so haven't any idea of the significant problems.
Firebottle
17-10-2021, 16:24
Sadly there are features of the car which I really like - but Elon Musk and his outfit have to do a lot better than this for safe driving on UK roads. I could write a 5000 page essay on what's wrong with Tesla cars. The customer service is appalling, Many of the people are nice, but they operate in silos, and often haven't a clue about real issues, or in some cases about the technology. Many of their service staff don't actually drive EVs, so haven't any idea of the significant problems.
That's put me off completely from owning a Tesla, not that I had considered it anyway.
For the price they are you want top notch service included as standard, yes?
only issue ive really noticed on mine is if a car infront brakes on a narrow inside filter lane(non motorway) it can think there is an issue, but its not really meant for non motorway really. normal cruise is supposed to be used there.
also as said, the radar sometimes get dirty and shut it down. it happens occasionally in muddy spray sometimes; at least it tells you.
but mine is perhaps old school as it probably wasnt state of art 3 years ago i dont think. but 3 years is a long time in tech
I am not sure “enjoying” is the right word for the new car. If I want enjoyment, I take the 7 out…. (It is like going from one extreme to the other though. No creature comforts. No driver aids. Hopefully I manage to stay in control, but is is not hard if I stick to the speed limits).
Happy is probably best, as it is comfortable, quiet, economic and has a little bit of poke when you want it.
Happy is good, but for me enjoyment is a *must*, with any car I drive. I only have the one, so whatever it is, has to tick several boxes, including the one marked 'FUN'!;)
It's good though that you can switch between two very different and diverse driving experiences, so I get that, but for me the car I drove the most would have to deliver that, not just the one I used occasionally:)
Marco.
I am thinking about it, and thinking that I will hopefully be well retired before that becomes a reality. But I do feel sorry for the younger ones (not you Marco, you are also old :)) Imagine young Wayne phoning in sick so he can take his bird Sharon for a shopping trip to Primark, and the bloody car takes him to work instead. Forcing Sharon to get the bus home. Nightmare...
Lol... :D
Well, I'm old in the sense that I'm older than people who are younger than me! Haha..
I get your point of course, but I certainly don't feel 'old', and can run rings around many guys my age and some considerably younger. Having a wife 15 years my junior, and who's also very young for her age (in looks and outlook), with boundless levels of energy, certainly helps keep me fit!:eek::eyebrows:
But yes, in terms of the rest, I don't see that happening in your driving lifetime or mine, but I do believe it *WILL* happen, and while I'm still on the road, I certainly won't be encouraging it, by buying into it!
Marco.
cars are different things for everyone i guess, but its nice if you at least enjoy being in it. everyone will have differing ideas as to whats fun tho.
walpurgis
18-10-2021, 08:16
I've been roughing out my design for a clockwork car. It all seems workable apart from one insoluble issue. Where do I keep that bloody great key? :eek:
I do think it stands more chance of success than my previous idea, the windmill powered car :D.
I've been roughing out my design for a clockwork car. It all seems workable apart from one insoluble issue. Where do I keep that bloody great key? :eek:
I do think it stands more chance of success than my previous idea, the windmill powered car :D.
is this a windup?;)
walpurgis
18-10-2021, 08:38
is this a windup?;)
:lol:
cars are different things for everyone i guess, but its nice if you at least enjoy being in it. everyone will have differing ideas as to whats fun tho.
Yups... But what I mean is that a car for me is not just a means of getting from A to B, around some overcrowded urban concrete jungle; it's MUCH more than that, and where I live I can enjoy some lovely quiet roads and beautiful scenery!:cool:
Plus, life for me in general is about having FUN - a feeling sadly lacking in the lives of many in today's world.
Marco.
Yups... But what I mean is that a car for me is not just a means of getting from A to B, around some overcrowded urban concrete jungle; it's MUCH more than that, and where I live I can enjoy some lovely quiet roads and beautiful scenery!:cool:
Plus, life for me in general is about having FUN - a feeling sadly lacking in the lives of many in today's world.
Marco.
most like nippy or fast at times i guess. luxury can be fun to some too. serenity for others.. i like it all i guess, but if i had to pick one i suppose it would be all of them :ner:
That is the thing though Marco, if I want to have fun, I take the 7 for a run out on the country roads. If I am travelling to work, I take the Skoda, as it is dark and cold. The 7 is no fun in these conditions. You need to be awake when you drive it. The BMW was a car you could have fun in, but it was not as comfortable to travel in. Comfort now rates highly on my list of priorities.
I have just checked the figures for my car since I last filled it up. I am at 0.6 l/100km, which works out at just over 470 mpg.
Absolutely crazy, but you have to add in the additional electricity costs.
I am starting to get worried about the petrol going off in the fuel tank....
The good news is that I have a long run planned soon, so will be able to properly warm up the ICE, and refresh the fuel in the tank.
Indeed... Whatever works and floats yer boat. You clearly do more miles than me mate, so fuel economy is a valid consideration:)
These days, I'm lucky if I do 5 miles a day in the Brabster, so when I get in it, I want a giggle... Turn up the choons, get that 12" sub, driven by its 650W monoblock amp, nicely kickin', and when I 'blip' the accelerator, see if I can still hear the growl from the quad sports exhaust above it!:fingers::D:eyebrows:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
18-10-2021, 20:57
I've been roughing out my design for a clockwork car. It all seems workable apart from one insoluble issue. Where do I keep that bloody great key? :eek:
I do think it stands more chance of success than my previous idea, the windmill powered car :D.
When I was a kid my dad had a clockwork car. I clearly remember him winding it up in the mornings.
Pigmy Pony
18-10-2021, 21:02
That is the thing though Marco, if I want to have fun, I take the 7 for a run out on the country roads. If I am travelling to work, I take the Skoda, as it is dark and cold. The 7 is no fun in these conditions. You need to be awake when you drive it. The BMW was a car you could have fun in, but it was not as comfortable to travel in. Comfort now rates highly on my list of priorities.
I have just checked the figures for my car since I last filled it up. I am at 0.6 l/100km, which works out at just over 470 mpg.
Absolutely crazy, but you have to add in the additional electricity costs.
I am starting to get worried about the petrol going off in the fuel tank....
The good news is that I have a long run planned soon, so will be able to properly warm up the ICE, and refresh the fuel in the tank.
Put some fuel stabiliser in the tank and you'll be fine. It's not expensive. I recently got some for the bike as it gets laid up for long periods.
just heard the nissan is cancelled. so im going ahead with the ev kona.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/1-hyundai-kona-electric-2021-uk-first-drive-review-hero-front.jpg
its easier on my gammy leg, as it can damn near drive its self with supervision lol
rmcin626
19-10-2021, 12:42
just heard the nissan is cancelled. so im going ahead with the ev kona.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/1-hyundai-kona-electric-2021-uk-first-drive-review-hero-front.jpg
its easier on my gammy leg, as it can damn near drive its self with supervision lol
That’s good news Grant
I much preferred the Nissan, mate, but I wish you many years of safe, happy and trouble-free motoring in your little electric mobile shopping trolley!:ner::D
;)
Marco.
That’s good news Grant thanks robin.
I much preferred the Nissan, mate, but I wish you many years of safe, happy and trouble-free motoring in your little electric mobile shopping trolley!:ner::D
;)
Marco.
yes well so do i, but needs must. this leg is not gonna get better any time soon me thinks so it was a lot of money to just drive around local in tbh, and probably not good for car. there is a big difference in interior quality but i wont be spending so much time in it
Yup, roger on that. As ever, a car must fit the needs of the driver:)
Your leg's unlikely to get better on its own. You probably need to see a doctor and get some treatment. I know that's not easy at the moment, but it's likely to be the only real way forward.
Marco.
walpurgis
19-10-2021, 13:33
just heard the nissan is cancelled. so im going ahead with the ev kona.
Nicely put together motors Hyundai. I'm sure you'll like it Grant.
Yup, roger on that. As ever, a car must fit the needs of the driver:)
Your leg's unlikely to get better on its own. You probably need to see a doctor and get some treatment. I know that's not easy at the moment, but it's likely to be the only real way forward.
Marco.
sawbones? ..i only go there if the wisewoman cant help... how is the wise woman:D
Nicely put together motors Hyundai. I'm sure you'll like it Grant.
inside is a bit scratchy plastic but other than that it looked bland but ok, and drove exceedingly well, considering someone forgot an engine and gearbox:D
Lol - still at work... What would you give for a soothing princess massage, as only she knows how?:D
Marco.
Lol - still at work... What would you give for a soothing princess massage, as only she knows how?:D
Marco.
in her nurses uniform:eyebrows:
Lol... You'll need a cold shower mate, if you keep those thoughts in your head!:D
Marco.
I'm still puzzled about why the security guards singled her out for a 'pat down' at the Erasure concert...:hmm:
Marco.
I'm still puzzled about why the security guards singled her out for a 'pat down' at the Erasure concert...:hmm:
Marco.
ive put a contract out on them... the bastards wont get away with it;)
Lol... As the saying goes: 'Hell hath no fury like a vengeful unky!':D
Marco.
Was reading China have drastically cut magnesium output. So another issue for car makers as 85% comes from there
walpurgis
20-10-2021, 06:15
Was reading China have drastically cut magnesium output. So another issue for car makers as 85% comes from there
I don't think the UK uses much in manufacturing these days.
Pigmy Pony
20-10-2021, 20:16
Probably need it for alloy wheels.
This morning the traffic was pretty bad on the way into work. It was 14 degrees C and taking my normal route I used 37% of the battery.
It seems a PHEV is quite good in heavy traffic, but battery range suffers if travelling quicker.
Probably need it for alloy wheels.
its used to strengthen aluminium apparently.. gearboxes, wheels, engines etc
This morning the traffic was pretty bad on the way into work. It was 14 degrees C and taking my normal route I used 37% of the battery.
It seems a PHEV is quite good in heavy traffic, but battery range suffers if travelling quicker.
yes electrics are quite good at urban as they also benefit from regeneration etc which can add a lot to battery range.
dave2010
21-10-2021, 08:03
This morning the traffic was pretty bad on the way into work. It was 14 degrees C and taking my normal route I used 37% of the battery.
It seems a PHEV is quite good in heavy traffic, but battery range suffers if travelling quicker.How many miles/kWh or km/kWh do you normally get? Our two vehicles (EVs) range between 4-4.5 mile/kWh (about 6.4-7.2 km/kWh) and 3-3.5 mile/kWh (4.8-5.6 km/kWh) approximately.
I assume yours is a plug-in hybrid, so the battery will be considerably smaller than a full EV. Does the combustion engine stay off during the whole of your trip, or does it kick in occasionally?
Here travelling above 50 mph (80km/hour) does increase the consumption rate. Mostly we can't drive signicantly faster than that, though there is a dual carriageway section where 70 mph (112km/hour) is allowed and the national limit is 60 mph (96/km/hour) which works on some roads.
As long as you can get there and back each day there surely isn't a problem!
If you forget to plug your vehicle in, or you can't get a charge at work, then you would need to make sure you have fuel in the tank, and ideally you should be able to do most of your journeys on battery power alone.
car has ice on it this morning. the battery issues may start again with this.. it goes for a mot next week as its approaching 3 yrs old. ive noticed of late that the mpg has dropped due to colder weather too. about 53 at moment.
hoping to get new one in december if all goes well
dave2010
21-10-2021, 08:42
That's put me off completely from owning a Tesla, not that I had considered it anyway.
For the price they are you want top notch service included as standard, yes?That's a joke! Huh!
Firebottle
21-10-2021, 08:46
It is a joke that you can't get the service you should, yes.
dave2010
21-10-2021, 09:05
Mobile phones didn't turn into smartphones overnight either, but it happened ....
Don't get me on to smartphones - hate the **** things.
OK - the phones themselves can be useful sometimes - for example for a portable satnav if you use a hire car, but what really gets me totally p***d off is that nowadays you're not a person if you don't have a smartphone.
Try to run a bank account without a smart phone - and the banks are all different. It's an absolute nightmare trying to enter passwords, and 2nd factor authorisation etc.
Eventually we'll have 57 factor authorisation - "to protect us".
People say - why don't you keep all your passwords in the cloud - like Apple. Must be crazy.
Why don't you keep the passwords in the browser - I do sometimes - but anything important is written down, and I've taken to using some very choice passwords as I'm so disgusted with the things.
Sometimes they work!
Before you get to see pictures of yellow and blue cars and are asked "click on the pictures with taxis". Don't they know that we don't have yellow taxis over here - mostly!
a better name is a pocket computer really now. one of the few things they are used for is actually talking to folk with lol. but i like mine. but ive always been a bit techy
dave2010
21-10-2021, 09:30
a better name is a pocket computer really now. one of the few things they are used for is actually talking to folk with lol. but i like mine. but ive always been a bit techyAnother name is ID tracker.
Talk to people with a phone - another joker round here surely!
Try to run a bank account without a smart phone
I've got a bank account and a smartphone but there's no connection between the two.
They used to keep asking me to go on internet banking but the way I see it I never needed that facility before so why would I need it now? Just makes things more complicated for no real purpose.
When I got lost going for my covid jab I was able to bring up streetmap on the 'phone and find my way there. Now that's a useful facility worth having even if it's only needed once in a blue moon. Imagine having to ask passers-by for directions? No man wants to have to resort to that.
dave2010
21-10-2021, 09:38
I've got a bank account and a smartphone but there's no connection between the two.
They used to keep asking me to go on internet banking but the way I see it I never needed that facility before so why would I need it now? Just makes things more complicated for no real purpose.
You're lucky if you can keep things that way. Banks change - close branches - all sorts of other eventualities.
I have several different accounts. One is good, and the internet banking works very well. I don't use it with a mobile phone mostly. Some of the others are a complete pain in the proverbials.
I was just about managing with one bank system, but then they changed it so I have to use a mobile phone - absolutely appalling. Not to mention the fact that often the signal is poor so getting the codes and all that stuff doesn't work well.
Agree - sometimes about the direction finding - but the things do track where you are - and what you do and what you buy etc.
I've got a bank account and a smartphone but there's no connection between the two.
They used to keep asking me to go on internet banking but the way I see it I never needed that facility before so why would I need it now? Just makes things more complicated for no real purpose.
When I got lost going for my covid jab I was able to bring up streetmap on the 'phone and find my way there. Now that's a useful facility worth having even if it's only needed once in a blue moon. Imagine having to ask passers-by for directions? No man wants to have to resort to that.
ive interweb banking..(yes i said banking;)) i use it all time to keep track really as getting to a cash machine is getting more difficult and branches are closing everywhere. rarely use cash.
Don't get me on to smartphones - hate the **** things.
OK - the phones themselves can be useful sometimes - for example for a portable satnav if you use a hire car, but what really gets me totally p***d off is that nowadays you're not a person if you don't have a smartphone.
Try to run a bank account without a smart phone - and the banks are all different. It's an absolute nightmare trying to enter passwords, and 2nd factor authorisation etc.
Eventually we'll have 57 factor authorisation - "to protect us".
People say - why don't you keep all your passwords in the cloud - like Apple. Must be crazy.
Why don't you keep the passwords in the browser - I do sometimes - but anything important is written down, and I've taken to using some very choice passwords as I'm so disgusted with the things.
Sometimes they work!
Before you get to see pictures of yellow and blue cars and are asked "click on the pictures with taxis". Don't they know that we don't have yellow taxis over here - mostly!
Lol, good rant, Dave! However, I successfully run various bank accounts without a smartphone. For Internet banking, I use my laptop instead!;)
I've never understood why able-bodied folk at home choose to conduct their business or social activities online, using something with a tiny keyboard and buttons, when you can do it all much easier on a bigger screen and proper-sized keyboard instead...:hmm:
So... Phones when you're out and about, laptop when you're at home. For me, that's the sensible way of doing things.
Furthermore, where I live I still have access to branches of my bank, so can easily pop into town and conduct my business the old-fashioned way, or shock horror, even speak with my manager!:eek::D
As I've said many times before, tech should serve YOU, not vice versa.
Marco.
ive interweb banking..(yes i said banking;)) i use it all time to keep track really as getting to a cash machine is getting more difficult and branches are closing everywhere. rarely use cash.
No shortage of cash machines or banks round here, daftee. I can walk to one of the former in about 3 mins:)
Marco.
I’m with NatWest, and never thought I would use the App but gave it a try and it’s brilliant, I hardly ever use the web version now, especially as the App uses the finger print sensor to verify my identity rather than trying to remember PIN and what the 2nd 5th and 8th letter of my password is... I also use the Apple wallet with my cards and that is great too - well, until I lose my ‘phone!
I also use google maps on it instead of the sat nav in the car as it is much better and up to date. I also have the Ordnance Survey app and an annual subscription which gives you all of their maps and is brilliant for planning and going on walks. The To Do app is brilliant for shopping lists etc., and with Spotify on it I play that in the car too. All in all, a great tool and even a pretty good camera. When you think about where we were 20 years ago it’s been incredible progress really, whether you like them or not.
dave2010
21-10-2021, 09:49
ive interweb banking..(yes i said banking;)) i use it all time to keep track really as getting to a cash machine is getting more difficult and branches are closing everywhere. rarely use cash.It is possible, with some banks, to operate without a phone - or at least having one to carry around. However many are now using 2nd factor authorisation based on phones. It used to be possible to do online banking at home without a phone - and that can be really useful. Depends on the bank, I think.
IThey used to keep asking me to go on internet banking but the way I see it I never needed that facility before so why would I need it now? Just makes things more complicated for no real purpose.
What about when you need to pay someone, for the purchase of goods, via bank transfer, if they don't use Paypal? Say, you've just bought a pair of speakers from me for £1k, and I want paid via bank transfer - how would you process the transation in a timely manner?
Or manage your SOs or DDs, or transfer funds from a current to a savings account? With Internet banking that's all a piece of piss, but without it, a ball-ache!;)
Marco.
No shortage of cash machines or banks round here, daftee. I can walk to one of the former in about 3 mins:)
Marco.
nearest is at one of supermarkets. there used to be 2 at each but its one now and they are not always working. so where i am you need a car really for anything as im in the sticks a bit. still its quieter that way. you can walk it tho if your fit no bother. Im struggling to walk to car from door and its only a few paces:doh: arthritis is setting into this leg i damaged i think; just another issue.
It is possible, with some banks, to operate without a phone - or at least having one to carry around. However many are now using 2nd factor authorisation based on phones. It used to be possible to do online banking at home without a phone - and that can be really useful. Depends on the bank, I think.
yup 2 factor, but it could be your email address instead of mobile; or ones ive used are.
I’m with NatWest, and never thought I would use the App but gave it a try and it’s brilliant, I hardly ever use the web version now, especially as the App uses the finger print sensor to verify my identity rather than trying to remember PIN and what the 2nd 5th and 8th letter of my password is... I also use the Apple wallet with my cards and that is great too - well, until I lose my ‘phone!
I also use google maps on it instead of the sat nav in the car as it is much better and up to date. I also have the Ordnance Survey app and an annual subscription which gives you all of their maps and is brilliant for planning and going on walks. The To Do app is brilliant for shopping lists etc., and with Spotify on it I play that in the car too. All in all, a great tool and even a pretty good camera. When you think about where we were 20 years ago it’s been incredible progress really, whether you like them or not.
Enjoy, but for me that's WAY too much reliance on tech, and potential for disappointment (or worse) if things go tits up. What happens when you're in an area with crap and/or no wifi? Your 'useful tool' simply becomes an ornament!;)
It's one of the reasons why when I'm out in the car I still carry paper road maps and A-Zs (remember those, lol?), as backups, and know how to use them.
Marco.
What about when you need to pay someone, for the purchase of goods, via bank transfer, if they don't use Paypal? Say, you've just bought a pair of speakers from me for £1k, and I want paid via bank transfer - how would you process the transation in a timely manner?
Or manage your SOs or DDs, or transfer funds from a current to a savings account? With Internet banking that's all a piece of piss, but without it, a ball-ache!;)
Marco.
I can go to the branch and do a bank transfer, it's a five minute walk away, but they do charge £40.
rare I would deal with anyone insisting on bank transfer though. The last time I had no option but to do it I sent the money to a friend by paypal and he did the transfer.
Agree - sometimes about the direction finding - but the things do track where you are - and what you do and what you buy etc.
I don't tend to take my phone out with me unless it might be needed. And I pay in cash for everything.
If I was up to no good I'd use a burner phone and leave mine with a mate at my house, he would do a couple of calls and texts to make it look like I'd been at home all the time.
nearest is at one of supermarkets. there used to be 2 at each but its one now and they are not always working. so where i am you need a car really for anything as im in the sticks a bit. still its quieter that way. you can walk it tho if your fit no bother. Im struggling to walk to car from door and its only a few paces:doh: arthritis is setting into this leg i damaged i think; just another issue.
Nightmare mate, and sorry to hear it. In my circumstances, I'm not talking even about going into Wrexham. The village shop, which sells all sorts and has a PO inside, also has a cash machine outside, is just down the road.
I've not noticed any corner shops, etc, near you though, whenever I've visited, which I guess is the disadvantage of living inside a large housing estate with fook all in it. There really should be shop though to serve the local community.
Marco.
I can go to the branch and do a bank transfer, it's a five minute walk away, but they do charge £40.
rare I would deal with anyone insisting on bank transfer though. The last time I had no option but to do it I sent the money to a friend by paypal and he did the transfer.
No worries. However, you can see my point and the benefits of being able to do such instead, for free, via a simple mouse click:)
Marco.
Nightmare mate, and sorry to hear it. In my circumstances, I'm not talking even about going into Wrexham. The village shop, which sells all sorts and has a PO inside, also has a cash machine outside, is just down the road.
I've not noticed any corner shops, etc, near you though, whenever I've visited, which I guess is the disadvantage of living inside a large housing estate with fook all in it. There really should be shop though to serve the local community.
Marco.
used to be one just at end of rd. was well used but guy retired and new owner didnt do so well, so sold it for houses. it was tiny tho.
nowt else in area bar a snack van up nearer by bro's house but you need a car for that. only good thing is, im a bit off main rd so not much passing traffic etc. i hear birds every morning, especially on a sunday.
Thats why im getting electric car really as i need something for those little journeys, and petrol cars dont like short start stop. 2 miles a day shit. the electric will love it and if plugged in it will warm up for me in winter without drain on battery. so no getting into baltic car lol.
fuel prices are through roof too so should save that way, and i will have money left over as the down payment is a lot less; in fact my good condition bonus of the chr will cover it so a free change
dave2010
21-10-2021, 10:31
Lol, good rant, Dave! However, I successfully run various bank accounts without a smartphone. For Internet banking, I use my laptop instead!;)
I've never understood why able-bodied folk at home choose to conduct their business or social activities online, using something with a tiny keyboard and buttons, when you can do it all much easier on a bigger screen and proper-sized keyboard instead...:hmm:
So... Phones when you're out and about, laptop when you're at home. For me, that's the sensible way of doing things.
Furthermore, where I live I still have access to branches of my bank, so can easily pop into town and conduct my business the old-fashioned way, or shock horror, even speak with my manager!:eek::D
As I've said many times before, tech should serve YOU, not vice versa.
Well said.
I still have paper statements too. I agree it "wastes" paper, but compared with the amount of junk mail that gets delivered - which I understand is "vital" for "the economy" (another rant coming on ...) I think it's small beer.
Paper statements are also a better guarantee of genuine communications etc., as the paper itself can be verified.
You're lucky to have banks close by. Probably the best we could do is the post office - once a week - which I think still operates from down the road. Otherwise the convenient banks were 8-10 miles away, but have now closed, so now it's a 15+ mile journey - plus a car park hassle in order to visit one.
Progress!
My local (village) bank branch closed down a couple of years ago, but there are two free to use cash points available. I don't use internet banking now, as I have had my account hacked twice, so to do things like bank transfers, set up and manage SOs and DDs, I have to go into the main branch in town. I'm thinking of using telephone banking as there at least I can speak to a human being.
These days I pay with my bank card for most things and ask for a receipt, so I can check that against a paper statement, which I receive each month. For stuff from Amazon or eBay, I use PayPal and I have never had a problem with them. For large value items, I will write out a cheque (remember them?); and if the seller doesn't like it, then no deal!
I have three bank accounts and do move money around between them, but it does mean I have to visit the respective branches to expedite matters.
Apropos sat-nav, I have two: one built into the car and a Garmin device, the latter of which I use. I do have a road atlas, which I used to keep in the car, but it's 20 years out of date! The sat-navs are all I need for 'last mile' navigation - provided of course you know the exact address of the destination!
Coincidentally, just had an email from FSTech (which I subscribe to for work) that Lloyds Banking Group are shutting 48 branches.. :(
https://www.fstech.co.uk/fst/Lloyds_To_Shut_48_Branches.php
'The bank will shut 41 Lloyds Bank branches and seven Halifax branches.
The Group has roughly 25 million customers, of which 18 million are active digital banking users, and over 13 million are regular mobile app users.
It said that the branches announced for closure have over time had significantly fewer customers regularly using them. Lloyds added that, like all banks, it must continue to “adapt for a future where most customers need to visit in person less regularly.”'
No worries. However, you can see my point and the benefits of being able to do such instead, for free, via a simple mouse click:)
Marco.
Yes but I've only had to do two bank transfers in my entire life so really not something I require. And one of those was buying a turntable for a mate and he paid the fee.
dave2010
21-10-2021, 11:17
Nightmare mate, and sorry to hear it. In my circumstances, I'm not talking even about going into Wrexham. The village shop, which sells all sorts and has a PO inside, also has a cash machine outside, is just down the road.
Apart from the lack of branches, when they close they often leave the cash machine for a while - then remove it. OTOH sometimes thieves get there first - and take the whole cash machine. That happened to several places in the area where I lived a few years ago. Another issue was whether there was any money in the machines, even if they hadn't been trashed - often there wasn't at weekends.
Then - you might like this one - "problem solved". Ba-boom. The Coop had a cash machine put inside. Worked fine - for a while. Keep reading!
THEN - thieves/vandals simply drove a car or van right through the shop window to trash the cash machine!
[Not Macca - with his burner phone trick I hope. I hadn't thought of that method.]
Apropos sat-nav, I have two: one built into the car and a Garmin device, the latter of which I use. I do have a road atlas, which I used to keep in the car, but it's 20 years out of date! The sat-navs are all I need for 'last mile' navigation - provided of course you know the exact address of the destination!
Lol - I think my AA road atlas is 2018, so a few years out of date, but still ably usable, and it does get used, especially on long journeys to somewhere I'm unfamiliar with and haven't been before, so Del will be navigator with the atlas on her lap, which is used in conjunction with the sat-nav, so we have a wide-scale view of the road networks in our vicinity and can 'plan ahead'.
There's nothing to beat a detailed, up-to-date road map, opened up and folded in a way that allows you to see where you left from and where you're going to on a single page, as in that respect sat-navs are limited (in comparison) by their tiny screens. Plus map reading is also a skill and so makes you use your brain, which stops it from getting soft from all its thinking being done instead by 'machines'!
How many people these days can perform simple mental arithmetic or spell words correctly without having to use Google or rely on spellcheckers? Whilst certain gadgets/forms of tech are no doubt useful, for me people today rely too much on them, not only causing laziness, but eroding their ability to perform basic calculations that any well-educated and intelligent person should be capable of doing.
Anyway, I digress... So with map in hand, Del will keep me right and ensure that the sat-nav is definitely steering us in the right direction, which as we know isn't always the case as they're not infallible! Plus, if we hit a traffic jam on the motorway, a road map can be very useful for identifying an 'escape route', via exiting at a forthcoming junction, onto another road that will take us to our destination and avoid sitting still in the traffic jam.
Try doing that with a sat-nav!;)
Marco.
Apart from the lack of branches, when they close they often leave the cash machine for a while - then remove it. OTOH sometimes thieves get there first - and take the whole cash machine. That happened to several places in the area where I lived a few years ago. Another issue was whether there was any money in the machines, even if they hadn't been trashed - often there wasn't at weekends.
Then - you might like this one - "problem solved". Ba-boom. The Coop had a cash machine put inside. Worked fine - for a while. Keep reading!
THEN - thieves/vandals simply drove a car or van right through the shop window to trash the cash machine!
[Not Macca - with his burner phone trick I hope. I hadn't thought of that method.]
Lol... Perhaps the answer is to live in a low-crime area?;)
I've never seen anything like that happening around here, indeed I've often forgotten to lock my car, and left it sitting outside all night like that, sometimes even in the summer with the windows down!:doh::D
And, touch wood, nothing has ever happened. Of course it could have easily, but in general it's just not that kind of place.
Marco.
Yes but I've only had to do two bank transfers in my entire life so really not something I require. And one of those was buying a turntable for a mate and he paid the fee.
Sure, but the point is, it costs nothing and it's easy to set up, so my view would be to do so and have access to its benefits, *if* you ever need them, whilst in the meantime carrying on as usual.
There's no advantage to be be gained by shunning them, simply because you're an intransigent old creature of habit!:D;)
Marco.
they tried to get to the machine in aldi here a couple of years ago by crashing a vehicle into side of building. it was a standalone machine. they failed to penetrate enough tho and left an unholy mess.
ive left my old car and my house unlocked before and no one noticed. not something i'd do deliberately tho. i used to leave one of my sheds unlocked sometimes but not now. its a different world now. still fairly good here but not what it was.
Sure, but the point is, it costs nothing and it's easy to set up, so my view would be to do so and have access to its benefits, *if* you ever need them, whilst in the meantime carrying on as usual.
There's no advantage to be be gained by shunning them, simply because you're an intransigent old creature of habit!:D;)
Marco.
like you and smart phones eh:ner:
Ive been desulphating a few batteries from my scooters in shed. then load testing etc. its improved them well.. unfortunately i fell:doh: slipped sticks on a slidy bit.. buggers.. could have been worse but i was in very little pain and now full of it agafn.. tis no fair.
like you and smart phones eh:ner:
Lol, not at all. They wouldn't improve my lifestyle in any useful or desirable way, so there's simply no point in having one. Whereas, an Internet bank account is something that is (and does). There are lots of areas where I've embraced the use of tech because it's advantageous for ME. If not, then what's the point?
I'm neither intransigent nor a technophobe. If I consider the latest new thing to be no-brainer better than that which it replaced, then I'll adopt it, if not I won't and continue as I was doing before, which for me is the sensible course of action.
As I've said many times before, it's about cherry-picking which forms of tech are genuinely an asset to YOU, and which aren't, and therefore simply adopting use of the former, rather than being a 'gadget junkie', and using everything, simply to be up to date or 'fashionable'.
Marco.
Lol, not at all. They wouldn't improve my lifestyle in any useful or desirable way, so there's simply no point in having one. Whereas, an Internet bank account is something that is (and does). There are lots of areas where I've embraced the use of tech because it's advantageous for ME. If not, then what's the point?
As I've said many times before, it's about cherry-picking which forms of tech are genuinely an asset to YOU, and which aren't, and therefore simply adopting use of the former, rather than being a 'gadget junkie', and using everything, simply to be up to date or 'fashionable'.
Marco.
I agree which is why I don't bother with internet banking. There's 5 cashpoints within 5 minute walk and I usually make sure I have at least a hundred in cash on me at any time so even if they are all empty or out of order (which has only happened once, on the Monday night of Easter Bank Holiday) I always have enough to tide me over.
Lol, not at all. They wouldn't improve my lifestyle in any useful or desirable way, so there's simply no point in having one. Whereas, an Internet bank account is something that is (and does). There are lots of areas where I've embraced the use of tech because it's advantageous for ME. If not, then what's the point?
I'm neither intransigent nor a technophobe. If I consider the latest new thing to be no-brainer better than that which it replaced, then I'll adopt it, if not I won't and continue as I was doing before, which for me is the sensible course of action.
As I've said many times before, it's about cherry-picking which forms of tech are genuinely an asset to YOU, and which aren't, and therefore simply adopting use of the former, rather than being a 'gadget junkie', and using everything, simply to be up to date or 'fashionable'.
Marco.
twas a jest...:D
dave2010
21-10-2021, 11:52
Lol... Perhaps the answer is to live in a low-crime area?;)
Officially it was, though there was a murder - shooting - in a street nearby, and a very high profile knife attack years ago.
dave2010
21-10-2021, 11:55
like you and smart phones eh:ner:And EVs - preferring to blast the ears off everyone in the neighbourhood with vroom-vroom exhausts and "old fashioned" ICEs!
Officially it was, though there was a murder - shooting - in a street nearby, and a very high profile knife attack years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dynAAX0hYQo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dynAAX0hYQo
taggart was in the tv series of colditz in 70's. i saw him when i started watching it recently; decent part too.
And EVs - preferring to blast the ears off everyone in the neighbourhood with vroom-vroom exhausts and "old fashioned" ICEs!
lol, well its good we are al different i guess. this ev im getting obviously will be my first; maybe my last too, but it will fit with my needs although i'd have preferred the big nissan as it was a "nicer place to be", but i wont be in it much
twas a jest...:D
I know, and that's how it took it. However, I wanted to reiterate that if I think something new is massively better than what I've been using or doing up until then, I'll get it, but otherwise not. Sometimes 'progress', in the truest sense, is further from being achieved than purported by those seeking to effect said 'progress'...
That's one of the reasons, going back to a previous discussion, why we didn't rip out our (then) open coal fire and 'upgrade' it with a gas or electric one!;)
We GENUINELY upgraded it instead by using the space to install a more efficient wood-burning stove... Therefore, sticking with 'old tech' there made more sense.
Sometimes newer isn't better, or 'better' in a way that matters most to you. People are often too quick or keen to jump on the latest bandwagon!:doh:
Marco.
How many miles/kWh or km/kWh do you normally get? Our two vehicles (EVs) range between 4-4.5 mile/kWh (about 6.4-7.2 km/kWh) and 3-3.5 mile/kWh (4.8-5.6 km/kWh) approximately.
I assume yours is a plug-in hybrid, so the battery will be considerably smaller than a full EV. Does the combustion engine stay off during the whole of your trip, or does it kick in occasionally?
Here travelling above 50 mph (80km/hour) does increase the consumption rate. Mostly we can't drive signicantly faster than that, though there is a dual carriageway section where 70 mph (112km/hour) is allowed and the national limit is 60 mph (96/km/hour) which works on some roads.
As long as you can get there and back each day there surely isn't a problem!
If you forget to plug your vehicle in, or you can't get a charge at work, then you would need to make sure you have fuel in the tank, and ideally you should be able to do most of your journeys on battery power alone.
My car is a PHEV. My average electrical consumption is 18.2 kWh/100km.
I have a 50 litre fuel tank as well, so I am unlikely to get stuck anywhere as when the battery os flat, the car automatically switches to the ICE.
When I commute, the ICE hardly ever cuts in, but if I know I am going to struggle to do the journey 100% electric, I will force the car to switch to the ICE on the long straight bits done at constant speed, and keep the electrical power for built up areas.
I have just been monitoring the battery usage against the claims to see how realistic the real world is, and colder weather certainly affects the range, but probably not as much as the quicker journeys, where the average speed is much higher.
Officially it was, though there was a murder - shooting - in a street nearby, and a very high profile knife attack years ago.
Was this in the Inverness area you're living now or 'darn sarf'?
One of the things I hate most about living in big cities is the greater propensity for being a victim of crime. The only time we were ever burgled (in the middle of the night, too:eek:) was when we lived in Glasgow!
Other than that, I've never been a victim of crime, or been somewhere where such is prevalent.
Marco.
Beobloke
21-10-2021, 16:38
Plus, if we hit a traffic jam on the motorway, a road map can be very useful for identifying an 'escape route', via exiting at a forthcoming junction, onto another road that will take us to our destination and avoid sitting still in the traffic jam.
Try doing that with a sat-nav!;)
Marco.
It’s funny but that’s precisely what I tend to use a satnav for.
When we’re going somewhere new, I research the route and commit it to memory (as, bless her, Ursula’s sense of direction is hopeless!) and might use the satnav for the very last bit of the journey to the destination if I’ve not been there before.
However, if the traffic suddenly goes to hell, the satnav can be great for getting you round it if the area is unfamiliar.
i usually set sat nav if going somewhere unusual or more distant, even if i know the rd. i usually have sound off etc but as you say if it looks like an issue appearing it can often get me round it. i also check traffic on rds im going to use to see if there are any issues before i leave
It’s funny but that’s precisely what I tend to use a satnav for.
Sure, but it's a bit different from what I meant.
What I meant was if you were stuck in a traffic jam on a motorway, crawling along and getting nowhere fast, and if someone who's with you had a map (and Del's sense of direction is good), then they can have a look to see if coming off at the next exit (when reached) would take you to where you needed to go, albeit via a detour, rather than sitting in the traffic jam.
How would you do that with a sat-nav?
When we’re going somewhere new, I research the route and commit it to memory (as, bless her, Ursula’s sense of direction is hopeless!) and might use the satnav for the very last bit of the journey to the destination if I’ve not been there before.
Wow, big respect to Mr Memory Man!:eek: So if you were coming to visit us in Wrexham, from your place, you'd be able to remember how to get here, simply by looking at the route once? I'm impressed;)
However, if the traffic suddenly goes to hell, the satnav can be great for getting you round it if the area is unfamiliar.
Yes I agree, sometimes it can. We've certainly found it very useful when we've been abroad, especially finding things like Catholic churches in the middle of France! However, in certain circumstances there's nothing to beat having a full-sized map open in front you, showing your immediate area in great detail. We never go abroad without several:)
Marco.
well you can zoom out but agree at times a paper map is best, especially if youve a co pilot. legally if you look at map even stopped its a offence unless you turn ignition off. some of the laws are bloody silly and you wouldnt get away with them in any other field. but motorists are fair game for govts
well you can zoom out but agree at times a paper map is best, especially if youve a co pilot. legally if you look at map even stopped its a offence unless you turn ignition off. some of the laws are bloody silly and you wouldnt get away with them in any other field. but motorists are fair game for govts
Yeah mate, but ultimately you're restricted by looking at a tiny screen, which is no match for a full-sized map. In that respect, there's only so much you can zoom in and out, especially in terms of getting your bearings, if the area you're in is totally unknown to you.
These days I rarely embark on long journeys to unknown destinations alone, so Del's there to assist me, as a handy and very capable co-pilot:)
Marco.
yup sure she is. ive got, em mr nobody :doh: satnav is mostly used but i do have backup maps. tbh i mostly travel on roads ive been on before. i could maybe market myself as a no nonsense nonsatnav..:D wrexham? its downtheway on right mate:ner:
Pigmy Pony
21-10-2021, 18:11
car has ice on it this morning. the battery issues may start again with this.. it goes for a mot next week as its approaching 3 yrs old. ive noticed of late that the mpg has dropped due to colder weather too. about 53 at moment.
hoping to get new one in december if all goes well
:eek: I remember you getting it - where did that 3 years go?
yup sure she is. ive got, em mr nobody :doh: satnav is mostly used but i do have backup maps. tbh i mostly travel on roads ive been on before. i could maybe market myself as a no nonsense nonsatnav..:D wrexham? its downtheway on right mate:ner:
Lol... Aye, ma man ,just keep headin doon, hang a right at end, and keep gawn until the sheep outnumber the humans:D
In terms of the bit in bold, yup, although if I send her in somewhere to ask for directions, particularly if there are a lot of men around, she can sometimes act as an unwanted distraction;)
Marco.
Lol... Aye, ma man,just keep headin doon, hang a right at end, and keep gawn until the sheep outnumber the humans:D
In terms of the bit in bold, yup, although if I send her in somewhere to ask for directions, particularly if there are a lot of men around, she can sometimes act as an unwanted distraction;)
Marco.
im sure there are a hundred blokes trying to prove they know best what road she needs:D
Pigmy Pony
21-10-2021, 18:17
I've got a bank account and a smartphone but there's no connection between the two.
They used to keep asking me to go on internet banking but the way I see it I never needed that facility before so why would I need it now? Just makes things more complicated for no real purpose.
When I got lost going for my covid jab I was able to bring up streetmap on the 'phone and find my way there. Now that's a useful facility worth having even if it's only needed once in a blue moon. Imagine having to ask passers-by for directions? No man wants to have to resort to that.
Real blokes don't EVER ask for directions. My balls are shrinking just thinking about it.
:eek: I remember you getting it - where did that 3 years go?
yup it doesnt seem like 3 years. i think the pandemic has shortened our lives
Beobloke
21-10-2021, 18:18
Sure, but it's a bit different from what I meant.
What I meant was if you were stuck in a traffic jam on a motorway, crawling along and getting nowhere fast, and if someone who's with you had a map (and Del's sense of direction is good), then they can have a look to see if coming off at the next exit (when reached) would take you to where you needed to go, albeit via a detour, rather than sitting in the traffic jam.
How would you do that with a sat-lamb?.
Simple - you just enter your destination and then select the ‘avoid motorways’ option! That’s exactly what we did recently when we went to Newcastle and found ourselves in a pickle on the A1M, it got us round it nicely.
As to memory, yep, I’d look up the route and remember it. I’ve even once or twice circumnavigated problems without any satnav or map simply by ‘following my nose’ and heading towards places that I know to be in roughly the right direction!
Simple - you just enter your destination and then select the ‘avoid motorways’ option!
You're not getting my point, mate. What you've stated wouldn't solve the scenario I posed. Plus, sometimes there is no practical option but to use a motorway. Never mind:)
Marco.
im sure there are a hundred blokes trying to prove they know best what road she needs:D
:lolsign:
Aye, and we can guess where that 'road' would lead!:D
Marco.
Real blokes don't EVER ask for directions. My balls are shrinking just thinking about it.
Done it a million times at home and abroad, and doesn't bother me in the slightest! If you're lost or need help, you're lost or need help. There's no shame in that. I've helped countless people myself that way over the years.
Marco [clearly not a real bloke].
Pigmy Pony
21-10-2021, 19:06
Sure, but it's a bit different from what I meant.
What I meant was if you were stuck in a traffic jam on a motorway, crawling along and getting nowhere fast, and if someone who's with you had a map (and Del's sense of direction is good), then they can have a look to see if coming off at the next exit (when reached) would take you to where you needed to go, albeit via a detour, rather than sitting in the traffic jam.
How would you do that with a sat-nav?
Marco.
Like what Adam says, our Volvo sat nav does exactly what you say Del does in the event of a jam. In fact it goes one better - we don't have to be stuck in a jam in the first place. Same with my phone's Google Maps, which is what I use in the van.
I resisted sat navs for a long time, using road atlases and A-Z instead, but sat navs have improved a lot. How do you go on it you have to go somewhere without Del? Do you pull over every so often to look at your map? Because you can't safely drive while gawping at your map. At least sat nav talks to you, leaving you free to watch the road :)
So unless you never go anywhere without Del, nor travel to unfamiliar places, a sat nav is a no-brainer really ;)
Done it a million times at home and abroad, and doesn't bother me in the slightest! If you're lost or need help, you're lost or need help. There's no shame in that. I've helped countless people myself that way over the years.
Marco [clearly not a real bloke].
There's no issue with giving directions, it's asking for them that's to be avoided at all costs.
Had to ask for directions in Harrogate one time. Asked two people and they both said 'Sorry I'm not from round here.' Then I saw the Town Crier in full regalia so I asked him. 'Sorry, I'm not from round here.'
There's no issue with giving directions, it's asking for them that's to be avoided at all costs.
Had to ask for directions in Harrogate one time. Asked two people and they both said 'Sorry I'm not from round here.' Then I saw the Town Crier in full regalia so I asked him. 'Sorry, I'm not from round here.'
Lol... As I've said, I've asked for directions many times, and yes sometimes the folk you ask can't help, but often they can (at least in my experience). A big part of the problem now is that people are so insular, therefore rarely venture far from their own area, and so don't know where anywhere else is!:doh:
That, and the fact that becoming reliant on sat-navs, to get around, doesn't help them to learn either!:ner:;)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
21-10-2021, 19:27
Done it a million times at home and abroad, and doesn't bother me in the slightest! If you're lost or need help, you're lost or need help. There's no shame in that. I've helped countless people myself that way over the years.
Marco [clearly a real bloke despite the flowery dresses].
You've already stated that Del does all that, so 'a million times' may be a bit of an exaggeration :)
Pigmy Pony
21-10-2021, 19:31
There's no issue with giving directions, it's asking for them that's to be avoided at all costs.
Had to ask for directions in Harrogate one time. Asked two people and they both said 'Sorry I'm not from round here.' Then I saw the Town Crier in full regalia so I asked him. 'Sorry, I'm not from round here.'
Did he ring his bell and shout it really loudly? That would be embarrassing :doh:
Like what Adam says, our Volvo sat nav does exactly what you say Del does in the event of a jam.
Ok, but how? Could you explain the process?
But before you answer, scroll back and ensure you're replicating the *exact* scenario I proposed. I simply don't see how a tiny screen, no matter how well programmed or detailed, can possibly replicate a view of the immediate road networks as clearly as an open paper road map, which is more than ten times its size?:hmm:
In fact it goes one better - we don't have to be stuck in a jam in the first place. Same with my phone's Google Maps, which is what I use in the van.
Sometimes it just happens though, and you find yourself in one. You can't predict the unpredictable.
I resisted sat navs for a long time, using road atlases and A-Z instead, but sat navs have improved a lot. How do you go on it you have to go somewhere without Del? Do you pull over every so often to look at your map? Because you can't safely drive while gawping at your map. At least sat nav talks to you, leaving you free to watch the road :)
I didn't resist sat-navs at all, as I've always considered them as a usual tool, if like anything else, used within its limitations. I like to drive nice cars, and pretty much every one I've owned, for goodness knows how long, has had a sat-nav.
In terms of the rest, as I've already said mate, I don't embark on any long journey these days, where I'm unsure of where I'm going, without Del. We tend to travel together in those circumstances, and it's usually when going abroad. Out with of that, sure, if I don't know the area, I'll happily use the sat-nav:)
Marco.
Lol... As I've said, I've asked for directions many times, and yes sometimes the folk you ask can't help, but often they can (at least in my experience). A big part of the problem now is that people are so insular, therefore rarely venture far from their own area, and so don't know where anywhere else is!:doh:
That, and the fact that becoming reliant on sat-navs, to get around, doesn't help them to learn either!:ner:;)
Marco.
don't get me wrong I think map reading should be taught in schools, important skill. But there was a time before maps were widely available, you had to have a guide or just remember directions. No street signs or anything either. That's only going back 200 years, less in some parts of the country.
So when maps became cheap and available they were just the sat navs of the day and people became dependant on them to find their way about in the same way.
You've already stated that Del does all that, so 'a million times' may be a bit of an exaggeration :)
No, I stated that Del helps me out, but she's not always the one who asks for directions. Depends where we are.
I still don't get what prompted you to say this though, unless it was intended as a joke:
Real blokes don't EVER ask for directions. My balls are shrinking just thinking about it.
If it was a joke, then fair enough. Otherwise, I'm sorry, I have little time for that butch 'male macho' nonsense. Quite often, IME, 'real women' like men to be human;)
And I don't give a flying fuck what some random bloke thinks of me I'll never see again in my life!
Marco.
It's partly a joke and partly true.
It's not what the person who you ask thinks of you (which is likely nothing as they'll forget the incident even happened within 5 minutes) it's what you think of yourself for having to ask in the first place. Yes there's an element of machismo involved. That's why it's funny.
don't get me wrong I think map reading should be taught in schools, important skill. But there was a time before maps were widely available, you had to have a guide or just remember directions. No street signs or anything either. That's only going back 200 years, less in some parts of the country.
So when maps became cheap and available they were just the sat navs of the day and people became dependant on them to find their way about in the same way.
Indeed, but it's gone too far the other way now, with tech all but having destroyed our basic skills and powers of judgment. As I said, how many folks now under 40 can perform basic mental arithmetic, without the use of a computer, or spell properly without recourse to Google, or the use of a spell-checker?
In terms of the former, try getting sales assistants in shops these days to work out in their heads what change to give you, if you present them with cash, without the till doing it for them!:doh:
And sat-nav, if blindly used as the only way of getting around, is simply another form of tech that makes your brain go soft!
Marco.
It's partly a joke and partly true.
It's not what the person who you ask thinks of you (which is likely nothing as they'll forget the incident even happened within 5 minutes) it's what you think of yourself for having to ask in the first place. Yes there's an element of machismo involved. That's why it's funny.
Well, that doesn't apply to me, as I'm fundamentally not wired that way. I don't sign up to the nonsensical notion either that 'real men' don't ever cry or show their emotions, but we've been here before!;)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
21-10-2021, 20:00
No, I stated that Del helps me out, but she's not always the one who asks for directions. Depends where we are.
I still don't get what prompted you to say this though, unless it was intended as a joke:
If it was a joke, then fair enough. Otherwise, I'm sorry, I have little time for that butch 'male macho' nonsense. Quite often, IME, 'real women' like men to be human;)
And I don't give a flying fuck what some random bloke thinks of me I'll never see again in my life!
Marco.
IT WAS A JOKE :doh: Calm down dear, as Michael Winner was wont to say.
Though on the subject of butch 'male macho' nonsense, some may see disregarding soulless evs because they don't have a chipped 320 bhp into a roaring sports quad exhaust competing with an ear-bleedingly loud car stereo as such :ner:
Didn't expect that I'd have to explain myself in order to not offend any 'new man' sensibilities that may be out there ;)
Well, that doesn't apply to me, as I'm fundamentally not wired that way. I don't sign up to the nonsensical notion either that 'real men' don't ever cry or show their emotions, but we've been here before!;)
Marco.
No that's not what I was saying at all. It's so hard to explain humour. Yes it is silly not to ask for directions if lost but in general men don't want to. Even though we know it's daft not to want to. The instinct is still not to do it.
IT WAS A JOKE :doh: Calm down dear, as Michael Winner was wont to say.
Though on the subject of butch 'male macho' nonsense, some may see disregarding soulless evs because they don't have a chipped 320 bhp into a roaring sports quad exhaust competing with an ear-bleedingly loud car stereo as such :ner:
Didn't expect that I'd have to explain myself in order to not offend any 'new man' sensibilities that may be out there ;)
Michael Winner - now there's a man who would never have asked for directions. Although ironically he was a director himself.
Pigmy Pony
21-10-2021, 20:11
Ok, on to this one:
Ok, but how? Could you explain the process?
But before you answer, scroll back and ensure you're replicating the *exact* scenario I proposed. I simply don't see how a tiny screen, no matter how well programmed or detailed, can possibly replicate a view of the immediate road networks as clearly as an open paper road map, which is more than ten times its size?:hmm:
Sometimes it just happens though, and you find yourself in one. You can't predict the unpredictable.
I didn't resist sat-navs at all, as I've always considered them as a usual tool, if like anything else, used within its limitations. I like to drive nice cars, and pretty much every one I've owned, for goodness knows how long, has had a sat-nav.
In terms of the rest, as I've already said mate, I don't embark on any long journey these days, where I'm unsure of where I'm going, without Del. We tend to travel together in those circumstances, and it's usually when going abroad. Out with of that, sure, if I don't know the area, I'll happily use the sat-nav:)
Marco.
Driving down the motorway, and before we hit traffic jam, sat nav tells us with its voice that there is a delay of ---minutes up ahead, and suggests an alternative route. We follow the route guidance voice, simple as that. Sometimes we are informed of these delays before we've even got off the drive :) So you can either risk it, follow its recommended alternative route, or sack it off and go out later. How good is that?
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Pigmy Pony
21-10-2021, 20:14
It's partly a joke and partly true.
It's not what the person who you ask thinks of you (which is likely nothing as they'll forget the incident even happened within 5 minutes) it's what you think of yourself for having to ask in the first place. Yes there's an element of machismo involved. That's why it's funny.
Dammit Martin, you always explain these things so much better than me :kiss:
IT WAS A JOKE :doh: Calm down dear, as Michael Winner was wont to say.
Lol - then next time, make the joke more obvious! :ner:
Though on the subject of butch 'male macho' nonsense, some may see disregarding soulless evs because they don't have a chipped 320 bhp into a roaring sports quad exhaust competing with an ear-bleedingly loud car stereo as such :ner:
Haha, nah, that's got nothing to do with why I enjoy it. It's about having FUN, but then I'm happy to concede everyone's idea of such is different. However, some folk (staid, po-faced, boring bassas) simply don't know how - and never have done!;)
Didn't expect that I'd have to explain myself in order to not offend any 'new man' sensibilities that may be out there ;)
No offence taken whatsoever. I don't care who or what anyone is, as long as they don't try to impose those standards on me, if I disagree with them, or worse, present them as 'the norm'.
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
21-10-2021, 20:18
And sat-nav, if blindly used as the only way of getting about, is simply another form of tech that makes your brain go soft!
Marco.
It's the same with with car audio, another form of tech making your brain go soft. It was so much better when folk played their guitars while driving :)
Edit: this too was a joke. No musicians were harmed in the making of this post
No that's not what I was saying at all. It's so hard to explain humour. Yes it is silly not to ask for directions if lost but in general men don't want to. Even though we know it's daft not to want to. The instinct is still not to do it.
I fully get what you're saying mate, and have been saying all along, but the last bit isn't me. I have no such instinct.
My instinct instead is to do *whatever* I think will best help the immediate situation, and if that means asking someone for directions (as I have done on numerous occasions in the past, and benefited from accordingly), so be it!
However, the key lies in your use above of "in general". Before, Piggurs and you were guilty of generalising and lumping other men and me in with something that we might not agree with. That's what I objected to. Also, stubborn male ego/pride is something that I've thankfully never been afflicted with.
If genuinely needed, I don't consider asking for any form of help as an affront to my manhood. A 'real man' is happy to recognise and accept his limitations.
Marco.
It's the same with with car audio, another form of tech making your brain go soft. It was so much better when folk played their guitars while driving :)
Lol, well my point is that becoming overly reliant on ANY form of tech, instead of using your brain to perform that task instead, makes it go soft. Talking of 'problematic softness' lol, It's exactly the same with your wee willy-winky...
As they say: 'if you don't use it, you lose it'!:D
;)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
21-10-2021, 20:35
Lol, well my point is that becoming overly reliant on ANY form of tech, instead of using your brain to perform that task instead, makes it go soft. It's exactly the same with your troubles with your wee willy-winky...
As they say: 'if you don't use it, you lose it'!:D
;)
Marco.
That's the last time I tell you anything in confidence :( Actually that was ANOTHER JOKE... I don't mind who knows, because I'm a real man... how about you, are you willing to be a real man and admit you have a tiny knob, or are you going to deny it with some butch male macho nonsense :ner:
Oh, and my explanation about how my sat nav helps me with traffic jams ...:popcorn:
So to recap: (a) tiny knob, or (b) butch macho male, possibly with tiny knob. Which is it? :)
That's the last time I tell you anything in confidence :( Actually that was ANOTHER JOKE... I don't mind who knows, because I'm a real man... how about you, are you willing to be a real man and admit you have a tiny knob, or are you going to deny it with some butch male macho nonsense :ner:
Lol - fortunately I don't have a tiny knob. What would you like, shweety, some pictures as proof?:lol:
Oh, and my explanation about how my sat nav helps me with traffic jams ...:popcorn:
Sorry, in isolation that statement makes no sense to me whatsoever...:hmm:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
21-10-2021, 20:53
Lol - fortunately I don't have a tiny knob. What would you like, shweety, some pictures as proof?:lol:
Sorry, in isolation that statement makes no sense to me whatsoever...:hmm:
Marco.
So you chose option (b) then, I thought you would :)
As for the bit in bold - earlier you asked me to talk through how my sat nav helped me avoid motorway jams, which I duly did. I was wondering if there might be a reply from you any time soon... honestly, your memory :D
So you chose option (b) then, I thought you would :)
Ha - very good. I'll let you have a wee chat then with Del:D
As for the bit in bold - earlier you asked me to talk through how my sat nav helped me avoid motorway jams, which I duly did. I was wondering if there might be a reply from you any time soon... honestly, your memory...
Soz, must've missed it with all the toing and froing. I'll have a look now:)
Marco.
Ok, on to this one:
Driving down the motorway, and before we hit traffic jam, sat nav tells us with its voice that there is a delay of ---minutes up ahead, and suggests an alternative route. We follow the route guidance voice, simple as that. Sometimes we are informed of these delays before we've even got off the drive :) So you can either risk it, follow its recommended alternative route, or sack it off and go out later. How good is that?
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Excellent, and I accept that's very useful, but it won't help if something's just happened (say an accident up ahead), causing the traffic to stop, before the sat-nav detects it, and you're stuck there.
At that point, when the traffic starts moving again (but is still backed up), it would be useful to know if leaving at the next junction (which depending on where you are could be as little as 100 yards away) would lead you to your destination, arguably as quickly, without being delayed in the jam - and that's where a map comes in handy:)
Regardless though, the main point I'm making is that it pays to have an 'old school' backup to forms of modern technology, just in case it should prove useful, and where possible I always try to do that. I mean, say you've broken down and are stranded in the middle of nowhere with a flat battery. what use would your sat-nav be at telling you where you were or how to get home?;)
My motto? Never become TOO reliant on tech!
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
22-10-2021, 06:10
Excellent, and I accept that's very useful, but it won't help if something's just happened (say an accident up ahead), causing the traffic to stop, before the sat-nav detects it, and you're stuck there.
At that point, when the traffic starts moving again (but is still backed up), it would be useful to know if leaving at the next junction (which depending on where you are could be as little as 100 yards away) would lead you to your destination, arguably as quickly, without being delayed by the jam - and that's where a map comes in handy:)
Regardless though, the main point I'm making is that it pays to have an 'old school' backup to forms of modern technology, just in case it should prove useful, and where possible I always try to do that. I mean, say you've broken down and are stranded in the middle of nowhere with a flat battery. what use would your sat-nav be at telling you where you were or how to get home?;)
My motto? Never become TOO reliant on tech!
Marco.
Of course there will always be the chance of an incident being such short notice that sat navs don't keep up, but probably rare. As you say, solely relying on them is unwise, and in the scenario you describe we would do as you said earlier. As would any travellers with more than one brain cell (about 20% of today's motorists) :D
And just so you know, we also never do any long journeys (especially abroad) without a giant-size road atlas. They are especially good for showing possible places of interest en route. I love maps and can spend ages reading them just for something to do :)
In the last scenario you describe (break down) I would be calling the AA (other breakdown services are available). I think they might have technology to pinpoint you location through your phone.
I keep meaning to look into this "What 3 Words" thing. That looks like it could be handy. Have you come across this?
Btw, to save you from having to check, none of the above is a joke :D It is all my honest opinion.
Three little words is good. They have an app for phone. It's bloody accurate to about a yard
We're in complete agreement, Piggurs. As you say, the key bit is this:
As you say, solely relying on them is unwise...
Unfortunately though, many folks do and are 'married' to their 'devices':rolleyes:
My advice? ALWAYS have an 'old school' backup for your electronic gadgets!
Oh, and I also love maps, for the very same reasons as you, and also books, even though I'm not a big reader, as they're tactile 'living' things and can NEVER be replaced by soulless, electronic devices, such as Kindles...:doh:
Live in the REAL world, folks, not the plastic one created by tech!
Marco.
Three little words is good. They have an app for phone. It's bloody accurate to about a yard
Never heard of it, mate, What's it about?:)
Marco.
Never heard of it, mate, What's it about?:)
Marco.
What3words. its an accurate navigation tool on phone. it works with maps etc and will take you to the point your looking for. its great if your say out in a lonely place with no easy way to tell folk where you are exactly. say stuck on a long, lonely b rd, or out on the moors/up a mountain etc. the app uses your gps to find your location and every yd or foot(sommat like that) is assigned a 3 word location in world. these 3 words can easily be spoken or texted to emergency servises say and they will find you. its also good to find houses etc that are difficult to find etc..
https://what3words.com/pretty.needed.chill
Cheers for that. Interesting:)
Marco.
a point in bellevue park in wrexham is say. bubble.myself.minus
popping that address will take you to that spot.
Lol. all sounds a bit mad. Undoubtedly useful and worth having, when it works, but the danger is the false sense of security it can create thinking 'I'm fine and dandy going to the back of beyond alone, miles from civilisation', as long as I've got my 'Three Little Words' app...
Well... :no:
Marco.
Lol. all sounds a bit mad. Undoubtedly useful and worth having, when it works, but the danger is the false sense of security it can create thinking 'I'm fine and dandy going to the back of beyond alone, miles from civilisation', as long as I've got my 'Three Little Words' app...
Well... :no:
Marco.
well if you need it once its worth it me thinks..;) costs nowt and if you dont have it running it isnt doing any harm.
anyhoo thats my smart meters ordered, and an isolation switch too. then the guys can come and fit a new fusebox and my charging unit outside.
well if you need it once its worth it me thinks..;) costs nowt and if you dont have it running it isnt doing any harm.
Of course, but that doesn't negate the point I made.
anyhoo thats my smart meters ordered, and an isolation switch too. then the guys can come and fit a new fusebox and my charging unit outside.
Good stuff. If you use it properly, by monitoring your energy usage, the process for which will be made much easier now, and make savings where necessary, it'll save you a lot of dosh:)
Marco.
Of course, but that doesn't negate the point I made.
Good stuff. If you use it properly, by monitoring your energy usage, the process for which will be made much easier now, and make savings where necessary, it'll save you a lot of dosh:)
Marco.
im saving 60 notes on the isolation switch by gettig them fitted at same time;)
Beobloke
22-10-2021, 12:03
I genuinely don’t get the point of what 3 words. OK so it tells you where you are or where you need to be, but doesn’t help you get there!
Frankly I prefer the rude four word version - FourKingMaps: https://www.fourkingmaps.co.uk
Currently I’m sitting at wetdream.peehole.whelp.bicurious
:)
I genuinely don’t get the point of what 3 words. OK so it tells you where you are or where you need to be, but doesn’t help you get there!
I presume you’re joking, but most police forces endorse What 3 Words, and many lives have now been saved by it - but of course, if you’re in the middle of nowhere up a fell or something and need mountain rescue to find you or broken down in the dark on a country road it’s only any good if you can actually get mobile internet to give them the code...
It is however brilliant for us for delivery drivers, as normal satnavs place our postcode in the middle of a field about a mile away... :rolleyes:
I genuinely don’t get the point of what 3 words. OK so it tells you where you are or where you need to be, but doesn’t help you get there!
Frankly I prefer the rude four word version - FourKingMaps: https://www.fourkingmaps.co.uk
Currently I’m sitting at wetdream.peehole.whelp.bicurious
:)
But yes, that is better - cuntflaps.knobcheese.bugger.shitforbrains
:lol:
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Pigmy Pony
22-10-2021, 21:19
I genuinely don’t get the point of what 3 words. OK so it tells you where you are or where you need to be, but doesn’t help you get there!
Frankly I prefer the rude four word version - FourKingMaps: https://www.fourkingmaps.co.uk
Currently I’m sitting at wetdream.peehole.whelp.bicurious
:)
The emergency services are aware, and help is on the way :) After a category 1 call that's just come in (fondling angry bulls balls).
I've heard paramedicas are using this, and probably other emergency services, so surely the ability to get to a 'What 3 Words' location would be part of the app? I'm hoping so, as i could find that quite handy.
Earlier this week i went to fit a window at a house out in the sticks which had a pet peeve of mine, ie a house name rather than a number. The house in question ('Pop Hall Barn') meant nothing to my sat nav, just a post code. When my sat nav told me "You have arrived", and I clearly hadn't, I asked a woman walking her dog for directions (no sniggering Macca) she told me the house was about a mile further on.
'What 3 Words' would be handy, but only if everyone adopted it.
Pigmy Pony
22-10-2021, 21:25
But yes, that is better - cuntflaps.knobcheese.bugger.shitforbrains
:lol:
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:eek: Mods, is he allowed to post my address on here? Some very strange looking people hanging round my house tonight :(
:eek: Mods, is he allowed to post my address on here? Some very strange looking people hanging round my house tonight :(
That's your family.
Earlier this week i went to fit a window at a house out in the sticks which had a pet peeve of mine, ie a house name rather than a number. The house in question ('Pop Hall Barn') meant nothing to my sat nav, just a post code. When my sat nav told me "You have arrived", and I clearly hadn't, I asked a woman walking her dog for directions (no sniggering Macca) she told me the house was about a mile further on.
Lol (at all of it)... Cool beans, a 'proper' house, distanced from the masses;) You'd also hate ours then: 'Greyhound Lodge', and it's a ball-ache to find!:D We also have a unique postcode, which when put into a sat-nav takes you nowhere near our house:eyebrows:
...ably highlighting the fallibility of technology. Solution? As you discovered, you do things the old-fashioned way, get out your car and open your mouth!
Anyway, it's good to make you work for your wages:ner:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
23-10-2021, 07:52
That's your family.
Yes you're right, i didn't recognise them with the Santa hats.
Pigmy Pony
23-10-2021, 07:57
Lol (at all of it)... Cool beans, a 'proper' house, distanced from the masses;) You'd also hate ours then: 'Greyhound Logs', and it's a ball-ache to find!:D We also have a unique postcode, which when put into a sat-nav takes you nowhere near our house:eyebrows:
...ably highlighting the fallibility of technology. Solution? As you discovered, you do things the old-fashioned way, get out your car and open your mouth!
Anyway, it's good to make you work for your wages!:ner:
Marco.
Funny name for a house ;)
Anyway, I wouldn't need sat nav for your house, I'd just locate the brown river (a well-known geographical feature in Wrexham)and follow it upstream :)
Funny name for a house ;)
Anyway, I wouldn't need sat nav for your house, I'd just locate the brown river (a well-known geographical feature in Wrexham)and follow it upstream :)
Indeed... And the 'unique tang' that pervades, sniffable within a radius of 3 miles.
It's called Greyhound Lodge because it was the lodge house for the old Acton Hall Estate. Our house is fronted by huge stone pillars with greyhounds on top, hence the name. You must've seen the pics I've posted?:)
If not, see here, as it also provides some history about the gates and estate: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-14682577
Marco.
P.S Just noticed your edit with 'logs' - very good!:D
Pigmy Pony
23-10-2021, 10:07
Indeed... And the 'unique tang' that pervades, sniffable within a radius of 3 miles.
It's called Greyhound Lodge because it was the lodge house for the old Acton Hall Estate. Our house is fronted by huge stone pillars with greyhounds on top, hence the name. You must've seen the pics I've posted?:)
If not, see here, as it also provides some history about the gates and estate: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-14682577
Marco.
P.S Just noticed your edit with 'logs' - very good!:D
That poor dog in the picture looks so emaciated, even for a greyhound - If Sir Foster Cunliffe was alive today, the RSPCA would be paying him a visit :( Nice bit of history tho
Question for the Mechanic types in the room…
What’s your opinion of K-Seal?
https://www.kseal.com/uk/products/k-seal
think I may have a radiator leak, thinking this may be a good temp fix?
My mechanic says stuff works great, anyone here used it before?
thanks.
yes if used right and hole isnt too big, it should seal it. start with cold engine and put some in. them let engine idle and add some now and agin for a while at idle speed. it should stop by an hr tops, and stay sealed unless the crack gets bigger of course. not much you can do with a big crack:eek:
Cheers Grant,
Looked the stuff up online,
Seems to work well!
in the old days we used egg white :D
in the old days we used egg white :D
Just had a convo with a mate who served his time as a mechanic,
he mentioned having cracked an egg in the tank to get him and the Mrs home one night!
though think its the yolk you use?
or am meringue? :D
Just had a convo with a mate who served his time as a mechanic,
he mentioned having cracked an egg in the tank to get him and the Mrs home one night!
though think its the yolk you use?
or am meringue? :D
naw yir meringue.. the clear stuff cooks and goes white and seals any holes... doesnt do the rad much good but as a temp fix it used to work
car returned after its first mot. also got a battery into one of the fobs. girl phoned me and asked politely and friendly how i'd like to pay... i retorted i wouldn't like to pay;) its a motability car. there was a palpable change in attitude from her; not as friendly etc.. pretty poor show from her imo.
rmcin626
19-11-2021, 10:17
Spending the morning at Glasgow Audi
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Spending the morning at Glasgow Audi
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car in for something Robin?
walpurgis
19-11-2021, 10:26
My little Suzuki was dropped off for attention to the spongy brakes and a new alternator belt earlier. Only a five minute walk away.
I have been looking at my battery usage over the last few months. I use less battery coming in to work than the journey home.
This morning it was cold, almost freezing, but I only used 5% more battery than normal.
So far, I have averaged 1.7l/100km (166mpg) since buying the car. With the fuel prices today, I am pretty happy with that.
rmcin626
19-11-2021, 10:29
car in for something Robin?
Audi, have a deal on servicing and warranty but they need to check the car over first. Called Audi all in service. 2 years service, 2 mots and 2 year warranty
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I have been looking at my battery usage over the last few months. I use less battery coming in to work than the journey home.
This morning it was cold, almost freezing, but I only used 5% more battery than normal.
So far, I have averaged 1.7l/100km (166mpg) since buying the car. With the fuel prices today, I am pretty happy with that.
maybe more uphill or against wind; or both. i get that here as im relatively high here plus if i go east its got wind assist...opposite on return
Yes, I think it is the elevation. May also be slightly less traffic on the way back, so you can drive quicker, using more power.
The interesting bit is that the range is closer to 40km than the claimed 56, but that was expected.
Was reading Tesla is second-to-last in reliability as Consumer Reports says Elon Musk-led company has its 'fair share of problems'*
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10217643/Tesla-electric-SUVs-poor-scores-Consumer-Reports.html
rmcin626
19-11-2021, 18:53
pLeased to say my Q5 sallied through its assessment.
pLeased to say my Q5 sallied through its assessment.Good. I'd expect no less. Nice motor
rmcin626
19-11-2021, 19:04
Good. I'd expect no less. Nice motor
Next couple of years sorted for servicing and warranty .
Tesla drivers say they have been locked out of their cars after an outage struck the carmaker's app.
Dozens of owners posted on social media about seeing an error message on the mobile app that was preventing them from connecting to their vehicles.
Tesla chief executive Elon Musk personally responded to one complaint from a driver in South Korea, saying on Twitter: "Checking."
Mr Musk later said the app was coming back online.
The Tesla app is used as a key by drivers to unlock and start their cars.
Owners posted a multitude of complaints online about not being able to use their vehicles.
"I'm stuck an hour away from home because I normally use my phone to start [my] car," one owner tweeted.
About 500 users reported an error on the app at around 16:40 ET (21:40 GMT) on Friday, according to the outage tracking site DownDetector. Five hours later, there were just over 60 reports of an error.
Maybe a key would be better.
walpurgis
20-11-2021, 12:51
Just give up and get an old Morris Minor and keep the plugs & points clean :).
Using an app seems sensible…. :eek:
WFT is wrong with a key?
Just give up and get an old Morris Minor and keep the plugs & points clean :).
I'd rather have a mk3 Cortina than a Tesla. Better looking and I could fix it myself. Shame you don't see any around anymore. Would have to be the Ghia in Bronze with the vinyl roof and the velour though.
I'd rather have a mk3 Cortina than a Tesla. Better looking and I could fix it myself. Shame you don't see any around anymore. Would have to be the Ghia in Bronze with the vinyl roof and the velour though.
https://i0.wp.com/www.aronline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/ford_cortina_2.jpg?ssl=1
https://i0.wp.com/www.aronline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/ford_cortina_2.jpg?ssl=1
Ooh Rostyles :eek:
Had them on my Viva HC
Very rare 2 door GXL there Barry, even when they were current. I love the “coke bottle” lines of the Mk 3, though I had a Mk 4 2.0 Ghia in gold with brown vinyl roof and “Tobacco” velour interior - loved it. :)
Today in a 50 mph limit I had to overtake a 50cc moped doing 30 - made me think, I can’t remember the last time I saw a moped on the road, let alone a country one. In my day, everyone started with a 50, progressed to 100 or 125 when they were 17 and then either did the bike or car test or both. I started with a Vespa 50 Special, then a Yamaha RXS 100.
Ooh Rostyles :eek:
Had them on my Viva HC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostyle_wheel
https://i0.wp.com/www.aronline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/ford_cortina_2.jpg?ssl=1
That's the one. :thumbsup:
walpurgis
20-11-2021, 15:44
https://i0.wp.com/www.aronline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/ford_cortina_2.jpg?ssl=1
At least it doesn't appear to have a sunroof. The manufacturer's sunroof drained out down the inside of the screen pillars and rotted out the 'A' section. My Capri was the same.
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