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    I was scared of doing this repair for about 2 years, why I don't know they were knackered any way, what did I have to lose, so I bought the repair kit and this is how I did it.
    this is what they looked like when I started


    I made a cone support from a piece of hose pipe


    then I used thinners to clean the metal basket and very carefully the edge of the cone, I used a craft knife and cotton bud




    next I used a small blade craft knife to cut the central dustcap(scary bit) note the angle of the knife is parallel to the cone to avoid cutting the fine wire beneath.




    I then used thin strips of plastic coated paper as shims to centralise the cone before glueing the new foam to the cone




    after the glue had dried I then glued the foam to the metal basket with a soft brush


    clothes pegs as clamps, taking that the shims centralised the cone I glued the foam to the basket where it lay, I didn't try to centralise that as well.


    I used a piece of blutak to lower the dome exactly where it came from, as the cut was a bit wobbbly it was easy to line up where it came from.


    I used a small file to weigh it down gently whilst the glue dried


    and Voila! the finished Item, once the glue dried they look quite good I thought


    back in the Allison 3 cabinet yahoooooo



    I hope it has been helpful to anyone wanting to have a go, I missed out on 2 years of my favourite speakers now they are back sounding beautiful.
    good luck

    regards Al
    Last edited by trio leo; 03-04-2012 at 15:56.
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    Well done Al - pleased you've got them up and running again! Have the mid/tweeter units been repaired at any stage?
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    Nice work Alan.
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    Does using glue change the sound of it? As it was never there in the centre to begin with, I'm guessing yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by realysm42 View Post
    Does using glue change the sound of it? As it was never there in the centre to begin with, I'm guessing yes?
    I doubt it very much indeed. PVA is pretty elastic so it'll just aid in damping the thing, the only difference may well be in a very slight alteration of the driver parameters due to a very slight increase in mass.

    It'd take some serious measuring gear to find that difference though

    So I reckon they'll sound as good as new
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    Fantastic little tutorial, thanks very much for sharing Alan - they look great


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    Quote Originally Posted by realysm42 View Post
    Does using glue change the sound of it? As it was never there in the centre to begin with, I'm guessing yes?
    I agree with Mr Malenfant, the centre cap is just a dust cover, I laid the glue over the cut line in order not to leave any air holes, as the glue is reasonably pliant when dry and there is only a small amount of it, I don't think it has made any difference, whilst it's hard to remember exactly what they were like when I bought them in the 80s they certainly sound fantastic now and I'm glad I took the plunge.
    regards Al
    My system,

    Cartridges Lyra Delos, Audio Technica AT33EVmc, AT 24 mm
    Turntable Thorens TD 124 Mk2, in a Jim Campbel plinth,Audio Technica 1503 Mk3 arm
    CD player Technics SL-PG490
    Cassette deck Yamaha KX 530
    Moving Coil Amp Albarry MCA 11
    Pre-amplifier Albarry AP 11 (battery powered)
    Power amps Albarry M1108 Mono-blocs
    Speakers Allison 3 Corner units, Allison 6 stand mounted cubes
    Interconnects AVT Matrix 6 and OFC short ones
    Mains distribution Music Works Recoil 6 gang and mains leads
    Tables MusicWorks ReVo acrylic stand, Quadraspire Acrylic shelves (cryo'd legs) acrylic Response Mini under mains block.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theo View Post
    Well done Al - pleased you've got them up and running again! Have the mid/tweeter units been repaired at any stage?
    Hello Theo,
    The only thing that seems to go wrong with Allisons are the bass foam surrounds.the tweeters and mid range seem fine, I love the large sound stage Allisons give, and although the 3s are 4ft tall they get lost standing in corners.
    recently I was lucky enough to try the new Albarry M1108 Mono-bloc power amps through my 3s, what a beautiful control and delivery, I can't wait to afford a pair.

    I hope you are enjoying your LO7D, what a deck eh!

    regards Al
    My system,

    Cartridges Lyra Delos, Audio Technica AT33EVmc, AT 24 mm
    Turntable Thorens TD 124 Mk2, in a Jim Campbel plinth,Audio Technica 1503 Mk3 arm
    CD player Technics SL-PG490
    Cassette deck Yamaha KX 530
    Moving Coil Amp Albarry MCA 11
    Pre-amplifier Albarry AP 11 (battery powered)
    Power amps Albarry M1108 Mono-blocs
    Speakers Allison 3 Corner units, Allison 6 stand mounted cubes
    Interconnects AVT Matrix 6 and OFC short ones
    Mains distribution Music Works Recoil 6 gang and mains leads
    Tables MusicWorks ReVo acrylic stand, Quadraspire Acrylic shelves (cryo'd legs) acrylic Response Mini under mains block.
    Speaker cable Chord Rumour (Cryo'd)
    RCM Okki Nokki
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1586...homepage_panel

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    Strangely enough, I have a pair of Alison Six speakers that need re-foaming; have just ordered the roll-surrounds now .
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    Top Job Alan (and good luck Mark!)
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