Back in Black

**Jimbo** · 02-09-2022, 06:43

Originally Posted by CageyH

I have yet to heat an AT cart that is thin and bright?
Maybe there is a compatibility issue in your system?

I had the 2M Black as you know, and sold it as I preferred the AT150mlx, which I still have. I have also added a AT20SS since, which I would not have done if it was thin and bright.

My other suggestion would be to buy a couple of spare styli for the 2MB while they are still available, or keep your eyes peeled for news from Ortofon regarding discontinuing it, and get a couple then. That should keep you happy for a few years.

Yes new stylus is definitely on the menu, this will be my 4th! I get 1500-2000 hrs out of each one as I keep vinyl and stylus scrupiously clean. I know some folk have said the 2M sounds a bit lean but in my system I get a very full fat sound, bass is fantastic, deep, powerful and controlled.

Very tough trying to improve on the 2M black as like you I have been round the block many times.

**Wakefield Turntables** · 02-09-2022, 07:13

Originally Posted by CageyH

I have yet to heat an AT cart that is thin and bright?
Maybe there is a compatibility issue in your system?

This could be what I was experiencing. The top end sounded extremely strident when I tried it on a SME V.

**walpurgis** · 02-09-2022, 07:27

Over the years I tried several non-MC Audio Technica cartridges and although I don't recall any specific characteristics that were annoying or inadequate, none of them stayed long. I just didn't enjoy what they did.

Mind you, I could say the same about Nagaoka.

**Jimbo** · 02-09-2022, 08:24

Originally Posted by Wakefield Turntables

This could be what I was experiencing. The top end sounded extremely strident when I tried it on a SME V.

Its a regular observation I feel with AT cartridges.

**Jac Hawk** · 02-09-2022, 13:35

Originally Posted by walpurgis

Over the years I tried several non-MC Audio Technica cartridges and although I don't recall any specific characteristics that were annoying or inadequate, none of them stayed long. I just didn't enjoy what they did.

Mind you, I could say the same about Nagaoka.

Different strokes for different folks, i got a mate of mine a VM750SH and it sounds superb.

**oceanobsession** · 02-09-2022, 21:10

Ive , been very close to purchasing a 2m black , but after hearing a 2m blue which sounded good , but i could not live with the surface noise that come from it , even the cadenza blue is noisy in the grove , hana ml is so quiet in comparison

**Wakefield Turntables** · 02-09-2022, 21:30

Originally Posted by oceanobsession

Ive , been very close to purchasing a 2m black , but after hearing a 2m blue which sounded good , but i could not live with the surface noise that come from it , even the cadenza blue is noisy in the grove , hana ml is so quiet in comparison

Yes, one of the more negative things about owning one of these carts they can be noise heavy.

**CageyH** · 02-09-2022, 22:00

Not tempted by the "2M Black LVB 250" at around €1k?

**Jimbo** · 03-09-2022, 06:45

Originally Posted by CageyH

Not tempted by the "2M Black LVB 250" at around €1k?

I have read reviews that suggest it only gives you a smidgin more performance - boron cantilever vs aluminium although this difference I appreciate can make a significant improvement.

**karma1967** · 03-09-2022, 07:40

hi jimbo, i liked my 2m black when i had one,i mounted it on an alphasom hr100.,if i went mm again i'd have another.

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