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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    fancy phone ehmine's a 5c; its poorer cousin. still does the job, and it was second hand too...lol
    Lol... I still don't even have a Smartphone - my mobile phone is more than 10 years old! Wonder what Adrian's sniggerers would think of me, eh?

    I couldn't give a monkey's toss, and that's about the level of importance/relevance superficial tossers like that occupy. One thing that age and experience *should* bring is the self-assuredness and confidence not to give a fuck what anyone thinks of you (or how they judge you), and do what YOU want, what YOU think is right, regardless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    yup, ive got a sim from virgin. £12 a month. might be 13 now.. they phoned me up during black friday and said they would save a lot of money with a new phone. i said i could save a lot more by keeping my phone
    I have always bought a SIM free phone and aim to keep it for 3 years or longer. I only really use my mobile for incoming calls and data so find that a £10 top up lasts me a month or two. The only time I buy a package is when I go overseas and buy a Three Network package with data roaming. Aside from purchasing the original Samsung Note when it first came out, I usually wait until a phone has been on the market for a while and is heavily discounted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Lol... I still don't even have a Smartphone - my mobile phone is more than 10 years old! Wonder what Adrian's sniggerers would think of me, eh?

    I couldn't give a monkey's toss, and that's about the level of importance/relevance superficial tossers like that occupy. One thing that age and experience *should* bring is the self-assuredness and confidence not to give a fuck what anyone thinks of you (or how they judge you), and do what YOU want, what YOU think is right, regardless!

    Marco.
    mine does everything i need really. plus it cost me nowt as it was the boys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Lol... I still don't even have a Smartphone - my mobile phone is more than 10 years old! Wonder what Adrian's sniggerers would think of me, eh?

    Marco.


    My mobile is an old LG KC550 slider that must be getting on for twenty years old, as is the Tesco PAYG SIM card in it. I have no account and just top it up with a tenner a couple of times a year. I hardly use it and need nothing fancier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    mine does everything i need really. plus it cost me nowt as it was the boys.
    Lol - I applaud your recycling regime

    If anyone sniggered at me for not having an 'up to date' phone, once they'd been given a slap, I'd tell them that I don't need one because I've got a real life, not a virtual one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post


    My mobile is an old LG KC550 slider that must be getting on for twenty years old, as is the Tesco PAYG SIM card in it. I have no account and just top it up with a tenner a couple of times a year. I hardly use it and need nothing fancier.
    Ha - same as me, pay-as-you-go... £20-30 credit can last me a year! I only take the phone with me when I go out in the car, simply for emergencies and/or keeping in touch with Del. For everything else, I have a laptop.

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    Re the thread, when I started an HND in Music Production we discussed the factors prompting creativity, these were starvation, illness, and drugs
    But there must be a driver - an emotional need to express; suffering, sexual desire, oppression, insight into something - an epiphany, loss of love, shock of loss and others.

    Yes, pop music has since about 1990 become facile egotistical, narcissistic, and vacuously devoid of any important meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    Re the thread, when I started an HND in Music Production we discussed the factors prompting creativity, these were starvation, illness, and drugs
    But there must be a driver - an emotional need to express; suffering, sexual desire, oppression, insight into something - an epiphany, loss of love, shock of loss and others.

    Yes, pop music has since about 1990 become facile egotistical, narcissistic, and vacuously devoid of any important meaning.
    Personally I think the best pop songs of all time are Slade's - Merry Xmas Everybody and Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody. Full of Meaning
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    I still like Richard Thompson's rendition of, "oops I did it again". A song about angst and regret!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    Re the thread, when I started an HND in Music Production we discussed the factors prompting creativity, these were starvation, illness, and drugs
    But there must be a driver - an emotional need to express; suffering, sexual desire, oppression, insight into something - an epiphany, loss of love, shock of loss and others.

    Yes, pop music has since about 1990 become facile egotistical, narcissistic, and vacuously devoid of any important meaning.
    I completely agree, but it's important to differentiate between "pop music" and the often (non-commercial) 'new music' that discerning young people might listen to, or even create themselves, and some of us 'oldies' might also appreciate and buy

    The fact is, there's a lot of really good music out there like that, aside from the mindless dross you mention, which you simply won't encounter unless you actively seek it out.

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