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    Gosh, the Amazon service sounds interesting.

    Think I'll just take it steady and try a few of the trial players. To be fair, Spotify Premium is just so convenient and user friendly I will be keeping it for mobile use and kitchen system to bluetooth speakers (not to mention the kids phones) so Tidal interface on a PC is probably fine for my two main rigs. Just wish it could be controlled remotely by the app like you can with Spotify. Grant is right - Spotify with hi-res would probably kill everything. I wonder why they don't want to do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by User211 View Post
    Audirvana is a joke on Windows. It just doesn't work it's so full of bugs.

    That's a warning - in no way pay for Windows Audirvana without trying the demo and you will see what I mean.
    What bit didn't work Justin? Works fine with me.
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    Just compared Tidal Masters to Qobuz Hi Rez via Volumino and Qobuz won every time with a sweeter more detailed sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    There is a minor downside to using LMS - the Tidal and Qobuz apps do not have active integration with the content providers.
    The fix is you need to log in via the web interface on your computer and add or remove stuff - artists, albums playlists, whatever.
    Once added you can access the new content via LMS using the relevant app.

    I'm old school and play albums, so I'm still trying to work out wtf a playlist is for
    Remember back in the day, you would pick songs off your albums and record them onto a cassette! And make yourself a compilation tape, so you could have a few hours of favorite songs to enjoy, while having a party, or making out with your girl. That’s what a play list is! Same thing, start the play list, and only hear your favorites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaGT View Post
    Remember back in the day, you would pick songs off your albums and record them onto a cassette! And make yourself a compilation tape, so you could have a few hours of favorite songs to enjoy, while having a party, or making out with your girl. That’s what a play list is! Same thing, start the play list, and only hear your favorites.

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    Compilation tape?!!
    What is this strangeness of which you speak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    What bit didn't work Justin? Works fine with me.
    Grant are you using Windows 10 and the 64 bit Audirvana?

    All of it doesn't work - crashes a lot, stops during playback etc etc. Couldn't even listen to two complete tracks.

    It tries to buffer the entire track before playback and it even had difficulty doing that.

    Total POS.

    BTW I only tried it using TIDAL streams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by User211 View Post
    Grant are you using Windows 10 and the 64 bit Audirvana?

    All of it doesn't work - crashes a lot, stops during playback etc etc. Couldn't even listen to two complete tracks.

    It tries to buffer the entire track before playback and it even had difficulty doing that.

    Total POS.

    BTW I only tried it using TIDAL streams.
    Yup win 10. 64bit on 2 machines.
    Ive ran qobuz before and it was fine in av. Tidal is also perfect, and never had an issue bar a few glitches which were fixed quickly.
    It should offer updates as long as you start it from the start menu.
    Only thing you might get if pc is struggling with memory is if u try dsd upscaling etc.
    My fasted machine manages ok but my other one struggles and crashes if i try dsd as its memory isnt high enough.
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    I dont get it yet. Im not even sure my music listening habits are suited to streaming.

    If Im pottering arround I put the radio on whether thats classical music or radio 6. Im technically paying for that so I may as well use it. Its background music which may spark my real attention or not

    I have thousands of tracks on I tunes so can build a playlist from there. ( most in CD quality rips) Ive got around 500 cds many of which I havent even listened to yet

    I can buy bin bags full of cds for a tenner.

    I also need to spend lots of time playing computer games.

    Now just where does music streaming fit into all of that?? Ive seen Hotels and shops use spotify to build a mood playlist. Da Kids seem to like it but I feel their experiences are shallow just like facebook

    So please sell it to me. How the hell does it enhance my musical experiences?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minstrel SE View Post
    So please sell it to me. How the hell does it enhance my musical experiences?
    Well for me, it's mainly about the convenience - I often work from home in the dining room, (used to have an office but that became the kids play room...) and I have one setup in there - an old laptop feeding into a cheap DAC - main system in the living room is similar - and then where ultimate sound quality isn't as important (in the kitchen, upstairs and outside systems) I use an old iPod touch and a couple of old mobile phones - with Spotify, I can control any of those from my iPad, another laptop or phone. (Granted, can't alter the volume on the iPod/mobiles). If I'm working, cooking, gardening or whatever, I don't want to be changing CDs or LPs. I also use it through my car's bluetooth on my main mobile.

    But the main thing streaming has done is introduce me to new music and save me money - I now rarely buy a CD or LP - if I do, it's because I have checked it out on Spotify and really liked it. Before, I would buy 10 or 20 CDs a month, many of which have had one play and then sat in the cupboard. I also think in my main setups streaming sounds better than CDs.

    The only downside is I sometimes miss the physical experience of an LP and even CD.

    But of course, everyone's different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_UK View Post
    But the main thing streaming has done is introduce me to new music and save me money - I now rarely buy a CD or LP - if I do, it's because I have checked it out on Spotify and really liked it.
    Yep, that's it in a nutshell...
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