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    Note the counterweight wound right out to compensate for the heavy Decca.
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    Thanks for that Geoff.
    Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Note the counterweight wound right out to compensate for the heavy Decca.
    Yeah, and two bits of lead hanging on the stub between it and the bearing. I must get Jonny 7 to make me another cw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    Real sound was a concept made popular by Jeff Day over on the now defunct jeffs place blog, it can now be found here https://jeffsplace.positive-feedback...o-jeffs-place/ basically its one man's journey into using various vintage hifi, alongside tinned copper and duelund components. It's a bit obsessive but I enjoy reading it. For fun, I made up a small "real sound" system, compromising of The Garrard 301, the SME 3009 tonearm (wired with original tinned copper tonearm wiring and tonearm cable), a highly modded EAR 834 clone, and some IC's and speaker cable made up from Duelund components, and a pair of Celestion Ditton 15 speaker that I rewired with Duelund cable. It's basically a very relaxed sounding system which is great fun. I don't take it seriously but it does sound pretty good and works even better after a dose of single malt!!!
    A fair amount of my listening is 60s scratchy beat/rock like the Kinks/Stones, sounds like that 'real sound' concept might work for that.
    Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.

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    there a chap on facebook called Plinthology he has a wide range of plinths for sale or he will make one for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutteronthebus View Post
    there a chap on facebook called Plinthology he has a wide range of plinths for sale or he will make one for you

    garrard 401 empty.jpggarrard 401.jpg
    He's ok but can't commit to a production time so I looked elsewhere.
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    Mike I have a 401 & have been using a Jelco SA750D with it very successfully with a AT33PTG mkii, a lovely arm to use & looks to be very well made, for the money it is excellent.
    However, I have just sold the Jelco in favour of a Mission 774; I haven't tried the AT33 on it yet but I will do shortly, I am currently using an old Highphonic MC-R5 cartridge & it sounds fantastic, whereas it was a bit flat & disappointing on the Jelco which was obviously too heavy for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedracer View Post
    Mike I have a 401 & have been using a Jelco SA750D with it very successfully with a AT33PTG mkii, a lovely arm to use & looks to be very well made, for the money it is excellent.
    However, I have just sold the Jelco in favour of a Mission 774; I haven't tried the AT33 on it yet but I will do shortly, I am currently using an old Highphonic MC-R5 cartridge & it sounds fantastic, whereas it was a bit flat & disappointing on the Jelco which was obviously too heavy for it.
    Aah, well let me know how it sounds with the the AT33 then, to make a comparison, I'd like to try both arms, was thinking of putting a 774 on the 401 with a classic cart like a SHure to play rock n roll/60s beat/pink type stuff, and keeping the Jelco/Notts analogue for more hifi listening. I may be mistaken on the characteristics though.
    Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.

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    So a member of this forum kindly gave an SME plinth, lead lined. I'm now getting around to fixing my arm on it, need a bit of help though!! Any tips on making a new hole for my tonearm, as this plinth seems to be set up for 12" sme arms. Jelco 750D is 229 mm. Does it matter where the tonearm is situated as long as its 229mm away from spindle? I mean slightly above the right hand corner of the motor unit rather than directly opposite the right hand corner as is the norm I understand. This is just to give me a taste of the 401 until I get a better and smaller plinth made!

    IMG_20190521_202423149_HDR by Mike Van, on Flickr
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    IMG_20190521_202504425_HDR by Mike Van, on Flickr
    Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.

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