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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Sorry, I don't follow you... Please elaborate. Why, in your opinion, is the exterior case "not that well finished"?

    Marco.
    Black Adder and I were simply talking about appearance. Nothing else. What's inside is irrelevant when the topic under discussion was aesthetics. In my opinion the design and finish is superior to Thoress kit. If you prefer the later, and think it is just as well finished, that's cool with me.

    Anodised aluminium is a pain, though. One tiny scratch sticks out like a sore thumb and will wreck the whole unit's appearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beobloke View Post
    I was amused by the subwoofer towers behind the main speakers. Clearly the SIXTEEN 10" drivers in the main speakers just arent up to producing real bass!
    I actually agree. You never seem to hear any in their room. Perhaps because when you play material with bass loud the horn integration becomes an issue? I've heard hints of that being the case in the two years I have heard these.

    Who knows. You'd expect they'd be trying to sell them on the strength of the bass towers, but no.

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    Something different, over 100k a pair mind. I did have a quick listen to these they had them setup on one of the stands in the bottom Halle. In all honesty they weren't that special IMHO, I guess they'd appeal to the footballers and their wives


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    Quote Originally Posted by User211 View Post
    In my opinion the design and finish is superior to Thoress kit. If you prefer the later, and think it is just as well finished, that's cool with me.
    We're at cross purposes here, mate. In your opinion, the design and finish of *what* is superior to Thoress kit? I missed that... I'm not saying that I prefer it over what you're referring to, because I don't know what it is you're referring to!

    What would help is re-posting a picture of the stuff you think is finished better, and one of the Thoress kit in question. Then I'll be able to look at both, side by side, and offer you my opinion on the matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    We're at cross purposes here, mate. In your opinion, the design and finish of *what* is superior to Thoress kit? I missed that... I'm not saying that I prefer it over what you're referring to, because I don't know what it is you're referring to!

    What would help is re-posting a picture of the stuff you think is finished better, and one of the Thoress kit in question. Then I'll be able to look at both, side by side, and offer you my opinion on the matter

    Marco.
    I'm not sure I'm that interested Marco.

    Why don't you do it?

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    How can I when i don't know what the superior finished kit is you're referring to!

    You can be a funny bugger sometimes... Anyway, we'll leave it there.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    How can I when i don't know what the superior finished kit is you're referring to!

    You can be a funny bugger sometimes... Anyway, we'll leave it there.

    Marco.
    Vice versa! I don't think it is worth the effort on either part, so yeah let's just leave it.

    I know you really like the Thoress stuff, no offence intended.

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    Marco
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Vox Olympian. This could be total delusion on my part, but these seemed better this year. Running a Fuuga cartridge, supposedly to re-create the Miyabi sound (that dude retired) in a Kuzma 4 Point/Monaco Grand Prix.

    Now according to my reckoning, the Fuuga cartridge is right up there on the top of phono carts. No disrespect to Kevin, but he's always playing complete crap i.e. we have totally different musical tastes. But once a particular LP got going what I heard exceeded anything I have ever heard out of the Olympians. Things just started happening in a totally excellent manner. Spatially fantastic, superb resolution, great tone etc etc basically goddam impressive. I've not been a great fan of Olympians so far, but it really was good on that LP, whatever it was.

    I still have no idea what the huge subs can do. I just have to assume they can do something. But I choose to believe that cart is right up there with the very best of the best. I'm not even going to look up the price ($9,000 ). It'll be a lot.

    Obv. the LV OBX weren't in the way when I was listening as reported above.









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    Back on styling I like we have Acoustic Plan and their wacky looking 46C amp (Google it and get nothing so I assume it's new) on static display. Plus a couple of other bits of theirs.

    I'll take the 46C.










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