Gave up on vinyl

[Barry]

Sounds like the next bake off

Years ago when I had a Rega RP1 it sounded worse than my CD player, totally lifeless, but using a decent TT these days makes me hardly want to listen to CD.

Hence your forum name?

[Crackles]

Hence your forum name?

Yep

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[Macca]

Challenge accepted!! Analogue v digital. Blind test, I'm up for that.

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[Johnny nocash]

I prefer vinyl when it's almost clear sounding. Soundstage deeper, more 3D like & involving, better than cd.
I prefer cd because it doesn't suffer (as much) from pops, scratches etc which do my head in.
I'd like to say that I'm a true vinyl chap but clearly I'm not because the noise on the black stuff ruins my listening. It's £u<k!ng irritating. I thought the higher up the analogue ladder I went then the better equipment I had would lessen this.
No.
It's even more annoying because I've spent more & more on a system that the format continually lets itself down. I'm sorry to say this because the best music I've heard in my system was vinyl. It just doesn't happen regularly enough, gutted.

[struth]

Some carts do show up clicks and pops more than others and many need really accurate setting up.
When digital cd came out there were 3 great advantages. It didn't suffer from clicks etc, it could play for a long time without being touched and you could easily jump tracks et.
When rcms became available to me I have to say they revolutionised vinyl for me. But a good tracking cart is for me essential too.
I don't think you should try comparing the 2 as they are different approaches to the same end. Both have advantages over each other and both can sound superb

[alphaGT]

I don't have as an aim to 'replicate vinyl' or even try to emulate it. I try to listen to music for its emotional drive, how it engages me and the 'art' of the musicians. A well set up vinyl set up gives me that (last Saturday Tom showed me what vinyl can do), equally a well set up digital set up gives me that. Different - I love them both. Like in art there is a difference between oils and water colours - both equally valid for conveying meaning.

The 'convenience' factor also plays a big part in this picture. But as they say YMMV.

The, “Oils and water colors”, analogy is spot on! And the point about conveyance. That’s what it’s all about, emotional content. Every system is different, as is every listener.

Russell

[Bigman80]

[Bigman80]

Sounds like the next bake off

Years ago when I had a Rega RP1 it sounded worse than my CD player, totally lifeless, but using a decent TT these days makes me hardly want to listen to CD.

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That's not a bad shout actually. A Digital V Analogue bakeoff could be fun.

[JohnG]

A Vinyl vs CD Bake Off, how very back to the 80's.
What a way to show how both mediums have merged in SQ.
If you liked Stoyans VAS, then if I can encourage him along to a Bake Off with the VAS and his gutted Sony CDP's, that have been Tube Modded, way beyond the usual methods, with Custom Wound Transformers, then you might just have a rethink.
I've got one at home on loan, and I am thinking I am doing my vinyl pursuit thing through loyalty and a determination to realise a long term ambition.
My wife who has a extremely good ear, entered the listening room last weekend, and claimed she was hearing the best music replay she can recall, she said it sounds brilliant outside the room as well, she was referring to Stoyans CDP.
The New TT will be functioning very soon, I have a few Vinyl/CD same artist.
I will update with my thoughts on my mini Bake Off.

[Marco]

Challenge accepted!! Analogue v digital. Blind test, I'm up for that.

Yes, but let's make it different, and not about which one is outright 'best', but rather how close each other can sound *if* the T/T in question is so quiet and super-stable/rock solid in playback (no pitch wavering, speed stability issues and/or bass hump, or high-frequency distortion/break up, with the cartridge used, as is common with vinyl replay), like a CD player in operation that, when listening blind, there are virtually no audible clues that you're listening to a rock being dragged through a piece of black plastic.

Experience tells me that only the very BEST T/Ts are capable of that (when playing mint condition vinyl), whilst still excelling at all the things that, say, Jim values about vinyl replay, in terms of musical connection, emotion, etc. That's what I meant yesterday when I responded to your comment of 'trying to get a vinyl setup as good as a digital one', and what costs serious money to get right!

Essentially, you know that you've got a pretty special T/T when it majors on all the best aspects of digital replay, but still sounds, in a good way, like a turntable - *AND* also the other way round, when your CD player/DAC excels at all the usual digital traits (as mentioned), but majors on the addictive musicality of a good turntable.

Some of you have heard my T/T at NEBO, so know what that's like, but Macca has heard both vinyl and digital playback in my system, so he'll know where I'm coming from here...

Marco.