Danny Baker; what the heck ???

[Bigman80]

I have to say, it's hardly PC gone mad.

Football fans throwing bananas on the pitch at black players, making monkey noises, monkey gestures, which clearly displays the understanding of racially abusing a Black person by inferring that they are a Monkey.

This has been in the news, very recently, and it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that the picture would infer any other response.

I'm afraid Danny Baker has done that, either deliberately or accidentally BUT it does not excuse him from guilt.

He's built a career on social commentary and his humor is way off the mark and his understanding of the social climate is also way of the mark.

He got exactly what he deserves.

[mikeyb]

I have to say, it's hardly PC gone mad.

Football fans throwing bananas on the pitch at black players, making monkey noises, monkey gestures, which clearly displays the understanding of racially abusing a Black person by inferring that they are a Monkey.

This has been in the news, very recently, and it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that the picture would infer any other response.

I'm afraid Danny Baker has done that, either deliberately or accidentally BUT it does not excuse him from guilt.

He's built a career on social commentary and his humor is way off the mark and his understanding of the social climate is also way of the mark.

He got exactly what he deserves.

Yip totally agree, not acceptable at all.

[struth]

Yip totally agree, not acceptable at all.

+1

its not.

[Bigman80]

As for changing Britain's values, FFS!

This country was primarily Pagan until some random traveller convinced a King that there was only ONE true God. He then decided that Catholicism should be the religion of this great country. He brutalised anyone who practices otherwise. Eventually, Catholicism took over. Nowadays, a group of extremist Muslims are trying to do the same, yet we call them terrorists. We are right of course but where's the difference? Because a King of England decided to install a new national religion by violence it was ok, yes?

Now as a nation, we have evolved, developed and progressed to a point where having a different religion, colour, sexual orientation, is not a hanging offence and people are moaning about protecting that right!! Apparently, its a fucking outrage. Not to me, I'd rather hang a racist, homophobe etc

All this is nonsense, if you don't want Halal meat, take a fucking packed lunch. By opting not to eat Halal, you are exercising your right in exactly the same way.

If you don't like the demographic of your area, you move. They aren't the problem, it's you that has the problem with your area.

This country is a great country BECAUSE we allow anyone to be anyone they want to be. I'm proud of what this country is trying to achieve.

[mikeyb]

Here's an interesting comment, which I think is VERY relevant to my comments above.

At a high school in Oklahoma, school officials remove “God Bless America” signs from schools in fear that someone might be offended.

At a Long Island, New York television station, management orders flags removed from the newsroom, and red, white, and blue ribbons removed from the lapels of reporters. Why? Management did not want to appear biased, and felt that our nation’s flag might give the appearance that “they lean one way or another.”

Officials in a California city ban U.S. flags from being displayed on city fire trucks because they didn’t want to offend anyone in the community.

In an “act of tolerance,” the head of the public library at a Florida university ordered all “Proud to Be an American” signs removed so as to not offend international students.

I, for one, am quite disturbed by these actions of so-called “American citizens”; and I am tired of this nation worrying about whether or not we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on September 11th, we have experienced a surge of patriotism by the majority of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled in New York and Washington, DC when the “politically correct” crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. In fact, our country’s population is almost entirely comprised of descendants of immigrants; however, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some native-born Americans, need to understand.

First of all, it is not our responsibility to continually try not to offend you in any way. This idea of America being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language, and our own lifestyle. This culture, called the “American Way” has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. Our forefathers fought, bled, and died at places such as Bunker Hill, Antietam, San Juan Hill, Iwo Jima, Normandy, Korea, Vietnam, and the Persian Gulf, for our way of life.

We speak English, not Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn our language!

“In God We Trust” is our national motto. This is not some off-the-wall, Christian, right wing, political slogan. It is our national motto. It is engraved in stone in the House of Representatives in our Capitol, and it is printed on our currency. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation; and this is clearly documented throughout our history. If it is appropriate for our motto to be inscribed in the halls of our highest level of government, then it is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.

God is in our pledge, our National Anthem, nearly every patriotic song, and in our founding documents. We honor His birth, death, and resurrection as holidays, and we turn to Him in prayer in times of crisis. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture, and we are proud to have Him.

We are proud of our heritage and those who have so honorably defended our freedoms. We celebrate Independence Day, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, and Flag Day. We have parades, picnics, and barbecues where we proudly wave our flag. As an American, I have the right to wave my flag, sing my national anthem, quote my national motto, and cite my pledge whenever and wherever I choose. If the Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don’t like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.

The American culture is our way of life, our heritage, and we are proud of it. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don’t care how you did things where you came from. We are Americans. Like it or not, this is our country, our land, and our lifestyle.

Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion about our government, culture, or society, and we will allow you every opportunity to do so. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one other great American freedom, the right to leave!

Barry Loudermilk‘s piece was originally published in his local Georgia newspaper, the*Bartow Trader.

This was written/published in 2001.

Still relevant today?

I'm MY opinion most definitely.

[WESTLOWER]

As for changing Britain's values, FFS!

This country was primarily Pagan until some random traveller convinced a King that there was only ONE true God. He then decided that Catholicism should be the religion of this great country. He brutalised anyone who practices otherwise. Eventually, Catholicism took over. Nowadays, a group of extremist Muslims are trying to do the same, yet we call them terrorists. We are right of course but where's the difference? Because a King of England decided to install a new national religion by violence it was ok, yes?

Now as a nation, we have evolved, developed and progressed to a point where having a different religion, colour, sexual orientation, is not a hanging offence and people are moaning about protecting that right!! Apparently, its a fucking outrage. Not to me, I'd rather hang a racist, homophobe etc

All this is nonsense, if you don't want Halal meat, take a fucking packed lunch. By opting not to eat Halal, you are exercising your right in exactly the same way.

If you don't like the demographic of your area, you move. They aren't the problem, it's you that has the problem with your area.

This country is a great country BECAUSE we allow anyone to be anyone they want to be. I'm proud of what this country is trying to achieve.

fucking + 100000 !!! with bells on

[mikeyb]

"All this is nonsense, if you don't want Halal meat, take a fucking packed lunch. By opting not to eat Halal, you are exercising your right in exactly the same way."

Gaz would quite happily take a pack lunch no doubt, but he'd need to watch what he had in it ,

And God help him if his wife had stuck a couple of Christmas baubles in it at Xmas time to cheer him up. Think the management would have something to say about that?

Silly? Damn right it is

[mikeyb]

fucking + 100000 !!! with bells on

But Gaz is being dictated to by other customs/beliefs.

Where's the equality in that?

Surely the right thing his in canteen is to allow all choices?

[mad-moon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9_bI789Gog&t=132s

[struth]

ok, we are now skewing off too far from topic, and folk are becoming heated. so back on topic of mr baker.

I will say this tho, you dont solve inequality by producing more inequality the other way; you just produce antagonism.

a bit like how this thead is heading...