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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    I llke Martin's point of view. We could do with more "inverse snobbery" in Hi-Fi, I'm in favour of that. That's why I avoid buying silver or 'champagne' coloured equipment, black or grey is the way to go, matt finish even better. Makers like Line Magnetic lead the way. Good Hi-Fi should not look out of place in a boiler room!! So there!!!

    Those look like something Flash Gordon would be familiar with.
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    I pretty well agree with Marco's stance on taste and function.

    To me Quad had a pretty good balance on style and quality, and I think a solidly built piece, with good engineering, and the money ordinated into the right places is fine if done with subtlety and subdued styling.

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    I like "laboratory" looking audio gear, so would love to try one of these in hammer-finish grey:

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmoog View Post
    hi marco, I'm well thank you and hope to post more here....always enjoy this forum...now I'm off to listen to some musique
    Excellent, Jonathan. I always enjoy reading your posts, especially the witty ones you're renowned for, lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    I like "laboratory" looking audio gear, so would love to try one of these in hammer-finish grey:

    Me too - and the EMT, in that respect, is perfect. It's also 'born' for the right reasons: to act as a highly effective (superbly engineered) tool, for use by audio enthusiasts and professionals, not some blinged-up pretentious trinket, to appeal to hi-fi jewellery fetishists.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    I pretty well agree with Marco's stance on taste and function.

    To me Quad had a pretty good balance on style and quality, and I think a solidly built piece, with good engineering, and the money ordinated into the right places is fine if done with subtlety and subdued styling.
    Yup, Quad is another good example of what I'm referring to, particularly the vintage stuff.

    Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying we should all be filling our systems with boring 'drab looking' boxes, as I do enjoy some of the more tasteful examples of 'quirky engineering', just not when it results in (as Macca has mentioned) an outcome of 'look at me, Mr Loadsamoney, and my flash system'.

    Quite simply, there are tasteful, clever, ways of spending money on hi-fi, just as there are on houses and how one furnishes and decorates them... Just look at the homes of your average 'footballer's wife', for examples of how NOT to do it!

    And the same applies with hi-fi equipment... So if you don't want your system having that tasteless, rather unsophisticated and pretentious 'footballer's wife' look, then BANISH THE BLING!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    This is really an old phenomenon, the classic middle class looking down on the up and coming nouveau-riche, the latter exhibiting bad taste in the opinion of the former.

    We have had a take-over of the bling because people's sensibilities and sensitivities have been violated by aggressive marketing and forceful advertising designed to make us feel inadequate if we do not have the latest and supposedly best things. We are instructed to buy things or do things.

    In this environment it is hardly surprising that subtlety and subdued quality get missed, this also applying to everyday communication.

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    DSCF1150 by henleymajor, on Flickr

    Back to the vintage industrial look, this time the WE speaker, believe it or not but this speaker made for me the best sound of the show. The guy who did the talk, Joe Roberts from Silbatone reckoned that these speakers were from around 1947 and were very rare and had a street price of $220,000 !!
    Vinyl rig 1 - NAS Spacedeck / FR64s / Lab 12 Melto / Denon SUT / Ortofon GM SPU. Vinyl rig 2 Mono Set Up - Lenco GL75 c/w Jelco 750D / AT33 Mono / EAR 834P Modded. Amplifiers - Audio Note Empress Silver / Hattor Passive Pre. Digital - Fanless Mini PC / Lampizator TRP / Linear PSU / Hummingboard Network audio adaptor. Speakers - Horns.pl Mummy's. Cables are Audio Note / Albedo / Furutech Speaker wire. Power conditioner is a Gigawatt PC2 EVO

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    DSCF1119 by henleymajor, on Flickr

    The western electric speakers in use at the show this year, they had a switch box which enabled them to play the track through each set of speakers so that you could hear the difference in the sound. The ones on the far left were used for recording studio's as a monitor, they also used them in the celings of department stores by all accounts. I didnt like them that much
    Vinyl rig 1 - NAS Spacedeck / FR64s / Lab 12 Melto / Denon SUT / Ortofon GM SPU. Vinyl rig 2 Mono Set Up - Lenco GL75 c/w Jelco 750D / AT33 Mono / EAR 834P Modded. Amplifiers - Audio Note Empress Silver / Hattor Passive Pre. Digital - Fanless Mini PC / Lampizator TRP / Linear PSU / Hummingboard Network audio adaptor. Speakers - Horns.pl Mummy's. Cables are Audio Note / Albedo / Furutech Speaker wire. Power conditioner is a Gigawatt PC2 EVO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    This is really an old phenomenon, the classic middle class looking down on the up and coming nouveau-riche, the latter exhibiting bad taste in the opinion of the former.
    What makes you think I'm middle class?

    We have had a take-over of the bling because people's sensibilities and sensitivities have been violated by aggressive marketing and forceful advertising designed to make us feel inadequate if we do not have the latest and supposedly best things. We are instructed to buy things or do things.

    In this environment it is hardly surprising that subtlety and subdued quality get missed, this also applying to everyday communication.
    I completely agree, Dennis, *but* you don't have to be a victim of it. You can choose to be a free-thinker (like me) by divorcing yourself as far as possible from that type of commercial nonsense/materialistic brainwashing, and instead be your own man.

    Therefore, I have no such feelings of inadequacy, as I'm in charge of who I am and what I do, which in terms of hi-fi (since, after all, this is a hi-fi forum), is reflected in the type of equipment I use, none of which is mainstream (has ever been commercially advertised) or copied by me from someone else.

    Marco [forever a free-thinker].
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

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