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  1. #41
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    Hi
    Isnt this what the magnetic brake on Garrard idler drive decks is doing?
    Dave.
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    Turntables are not gas turbines rotating at 30,000 rpm where noise does not matter. A turntable bearing at 33 rpm has to be firstly very low noise and secondly not allow and movement in any plane at all. That is what both of our bearings do

    Dave

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    It certainly does

    We all know how important the main bearing is ' take the LP12 bearing i have always thought it of the highest quality .

    But why is the original 1200 bearing such an odd design ' is it because its basically cheap and sort of idiot proof and just about does the job ' keeping noise and rumble within a certain spec ? .
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  4. #44
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    The Mike New bearing arrived just before lunch, and is already installed and running in. It's very straightforward. Thanks to Dave for providing such clear instructions, which could be safely followed by even the most timid Technics owner.

    I shall desist from posting any impressions until it's had a few days of continuous running.

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    The original bearing looks as if it retains the cut-out in the casting where the auto-cam would have been had it been a 1300 or 1400 mk3 or whatever..

    It does appear to me from experience that any "rock" in the bearing is not a good thing. One way with sealed bearings is to all but flood the thing with viscous gear-box oil, which can help to cut the effects of "rock" down. The techie bearing doesn't look to allow a viscous oil-bath so I reckon that both the alternatives are to tighten tolerances and improve on the thrust plate. Once this is done, I wonder how much heavier the "new" platter will be??????????
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
    I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?

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    I can't contain myself!

    Listening to a new Speakers Corner reissue of Lou Read's Transformer, which I bought myself for Christmas, I am struck by various improvements over the stock bearing. Firstly, the imaging is extraordinary (it wasn't bad before). Next, the edge definition of notes is quite literally palpable, and on top of that there's such delicacy to minor details. Lastly, I never noticed on New York Telephone Conversation that there were two voices!

    This is a wonderful cue to explore my entire LP collection, much of which I've ignored for many years.

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    Nice one Shuggie. I too am in 'discovery' mode. I am hearing new things in hackneyed records like Supertramp / Crime of the Century as well as more obsure treasures like Poco / Blue and Gray. I am now appreciating my arm and cartridge more than ever.

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    Great stuff, chaps.... My Techy's being 'Mike New'd' on Thursday, so can't wait!

    With the new bearing and the forthcoming platter mods, I think that the days of 'coveting' SP10s are fast coming to an end....

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Oh I dunno, the SP10 is so MANLY Marco and way above pimply DJ's..
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
    I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?

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    Arf! - I was thinking of putting a spoiler and painting some 'go faster' strips on the 1210 to celebrate its fully 'race-tuned' status!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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