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    Quote Originally Posted by vintage60 View Post
    3. I serviced all my kit when they reached 10 years of age and to be honest, I did not hear any day and night difference like many Naim fans claim they hear but I did notice that my bank balance had gone down significantly so I guess in that sense, yes, there was a big difference before and after
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby View Post
    Problems only arise when people believe their "truth" has to be shared by everyone else. The Flat Earth kinda took that road and a little of that history still lives on. I learned long ago that there are many ways to getting a sound you're happy with and I've never felt the need for others to agree with my choices (or me theirs).
    Ain't that the truth, bro (especially the bits in bold)! It never ceases to amaze me how so many folk need their choices 'validated'/approved by others before they're happy, rather than having the confidence and gumption to trust their OWN EARS, and stand by their choices regardless

    Or get pissed off if the gear that they're using isn't as loved [eulogised and discussed on forums] by others as much as they feel it deserves!

    Anyway, yes it was a good post from Adam, the sentiments behind which I entirely agree with. Naim, or Linn, for that matter, are not the 'big bad wolves' some folk think they are. I'll relate some of my own personal experiences later, as a previous (and happy) Naim owner for some six years, and of the company itself when Paul Stephenson was at the helm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Ain't that the truth, bro (especially the bits in bold)! It never ceases to amaze me how so many folk need their choices 'validated'/approved by others before they're happy, rather than having the confidence and gumption to trust their OWN EARS, and stand by their choices regardless

    Or get pissed off if the gear that they're using isn't as loved [eulogised and discussed on forums] by others as much as they feel it deserves!

    Marco.

    Absolutely. To both points.

    I rather enjoy the opposite. Using gear that I know is good, but few others if any are familiar with. Approbation is not something I want!
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Me neither. Like you, I go out of my way to own equipment that no-one else is likely to have, certainly modified the way mine has been. I've never been a sheep or one for following 'trends', much preferring instead to plough my own furrow. I'm a leader, not a follower

    And as for 'caring' what others think of the gear I use, I care more about the contents of my last dump, than what some 'faceless Internet entity' thinks of my hi-fi (or me)!!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I'm a leader, not a follower

    Marco.
    Me too....................Hang on. There can't be two of us here!
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    There are 3 people in this world those that can count and those that can’t !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael loves music View Post
    There are 3 people in this world those that can count and those that can’t !!
    And those three are a fine pair if ever I saw one.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazid View Post
    Wow, a couple of years back this would have been an incendiary thread on the 'Wam! Now two hours in and no abuse, fantastic
    To the OP I actually hated the old' olive' era Naim sound, never could get what was good about it, it made music sound small, shouty, and congested to me, and the upgrade paths had a strong whiff of marketeering about them. Now I read that their new products are far more neutrally voiced and rather engaging, possibly even to my tastes? I haven't heard them though so best taken for what it is, hearsay. Definitely well made stuff though.

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    Pretty much my thoughts exactly. It's a long time since I've gone out of my way to listen to Naim stuff as I thought it sounded awful back in the day when it was touted as being the bee's knees.

    I've heard that it's much easier on the ears these days, but the odd dip into the Naim forums does make me wonder if I've wandered into a parallel universe.

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    Naim is generally decent gear that holds its value well. It was never the panacea it was made out to be, and this is where some of the resentment towards the brand has risen. Unreasonably promoted and now unfairly maligned would be my take.
    Main system: Sony TTS8000; AT1010; Audio Technica Art1; The Lentek; Cambridge 851n, Yamaha NS1000.
    System 2 - SBT; Technics SH-X1000 DAC; Denon PMA-850

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    And those three are a fine pair if ever I saw one.
    lol Geoff

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