Graphic Equalizers

[Rare Bird]

It's a waste of time Dimitri even starting these topics to many PRAT's..I never start another now.

Don't these topics get locked when the going get's tough?

[Themis]

Nobody's being tough, really. Just exchanging views.

After all, I don't even understand what PRAT is, so....

[Marco]

It's a waste of time Dimitri even starting these topics to many PRAT's..I never start another now.

Don't these topics get locked when the going get's tough?

Andre, if you don't stop using insulting remarks like that it'll be me banning you, not Steve, and it'll be permanent!

Do I make myself crystal clear?

Marco.

[Marco]

If your room has +15dB at 80Hz and -12dB at 100Hz what do you propose to do ?

PUT THE SYSTEM IN A BETTER ROOM, or use headphones!!

Fortunately for me, I'm in it for the music, not whether I have +15db at 80Hz or -12db at 100Hz. I really can't spend the time getting all OCD about such nonsense.

Me neither, Shaun. How on earth would you find that stuff out anyway? Who has the sort of apparatus to hand which measures that information - certainly not any hi-fi enthusiast and music lover I know.....

Dimitri, in all honesty, If a room was so bad that the only way to make a listenable sound there was to 'correct' the problem with a graphic equaliser or some other device like it, I'd put my system in another room pronto, use headphones like Andre or move house! I simply couldn't live with either the sound the way it was before 'equalisation' or with the added distortion created afterwards.

May I remind people again of what Paul said earlier, as these are the facts of the matter in relation to graphic equalisers and devices of their ilk:

All these are good and wonderful and stuff but the problem is that all those extra circuits that the signal goes through raise the noise floor, lower dynamics, soften attack and decay. The latter may be more subjective but can be easily heard none the less.

Digital equalisers may seem like an answer but extra digital processing tends to ruin the sound as you are sampling the signal, correcting the levels and then outputting to analogue.

If you don't agree with this, then try posting a poll and see how many people here (or on any other specialist audio forum) think graphic equalisers are a good idea... It'd be like asking Gordon Ramsay to embrace the value of chicken nuggets!

Marco.

[StanleyB]

Parametric equalizers are a far better solution, if equalization is needed. Graphic equalizers have fixed bandwidth, which creates gullies in the audio spectrum.

[Themis]

PUT THE SYSTEM IN A BETTER ROOM!! .

We are going in circles, here.

I know people who have only one living room. A lot of people, actually.

So ? What can I propose to them when they tell me : "my bass is too boomy, I can't get a sound approaching your system's sound" ?
(you bet it's boomy ! with such a room and placement possibilities...)

Now, of course, I don't have an equalizer because I don't need one.
But my friend (with his room acoustics curve looking more like a roller coaster circuit...) what can he do ?

My answer to him : "you get an equalizer" rather than "you move your family to another house".

[Marco]

We are going in circles, here.

I completely agree! This thread is long past its sell-by date, so time to put it out of its misery

Marco.