Just ordered the 1200G!

[allthingsanalogue]

Choice in that area is increasing all the time. Audio Technica do one for only £145, for example. For real 78 wisdom speak to Tom (Montesquieu here on AoS) since he listens to 78s a lot and even has a special switchable equalisation box that presents 78s in a really rather wonderful way.

Thanks, the AT one looks very nice with a good VTF also, recommended 5 grams. Should be ideal.

[allthingsanalogue]

Update

The SL should be with me in a couple of weeks

[Macca]

I wonder if the wait is due to demand outstripping supply or a deliberate tactic?

They do look really good I must say but I am a fan of the looks and the sound of the old one. I know some hate both.

If I'd ordered one the wait would be killing me.

[allthingsanalogue]

I wonder if the wait is due to demand outstripping supply or a deliberate tactic?

They do look really good I must say but I am a fan of the looks and the sound of the old one. I know some hate both.

If I'd ordered one the wait would be killing me.

Two weeks is good. Some places quoted me 2 - 3 months!

[Macca]

Two weeks is good. Some places quoted me 2 - 3 months!

maybe they are just making them to order. Or just massively under-estimated demand. That would not surprise me. They stopped making the old one just as the vinyl revival was really gathering steam. I bet they have accountants running the company. No feel for the market.

[montesquieu]

Choice in that area is increasing all the time. Audio Technica do one for only £145, for example. For real 78 wisdom speak to Tom (Montesquieu here on AoS) since he listens to 78s a lot and even has a special switchable equalisation box that presents 78s in a really rather wonderful way.

I would concur on the AT MONO3/SP it's a really nice cartridge for later 78s and is probably all you need. (Or you can splash for one of the Ortofon 'SPU' reissues if you like).

If you have 78s from a bigger spread of dates, reasonable alternative would be something like a Shure M44 or SC36c, with a 78 stylus assembly from Expert Stylus .. though price-wise the options are much of a muchness with the AT unless you happen to have an M44 body kicking around.

I am getting pretty good results at the moment with a mono strapped M44 + a variety of stylus assemblies with tips of assorted sizes (historically the earlier the 78, the wider the groove). I previously had a very special Miyajima Premium 78 but had that tip replaced with a hybrid aluminium/bamboo cantilever and a 1.0 mil stylus for use with early microgroove LPs.

It's dead easy to strap a stereo cartridge for mono .. a figure of 8 loop of copper wire joining the L+/R+ and L-/R- terminals does the job and saves having to remember to push the mono button on the preamp. Strictly speaking a proper mono cartridge, single coil operating only in the horizontal plane, will give better results, but on 78s you'd struggle to hear this. Different story with LPs where a decent mono cartridge makes a massive difference to what you can get out of mono records.

[allthingsanalogue]

I would concur on the AT MONO3/SP it's a really nice cartridge for later 78s and is probably all you need. (Or you can splash for one of the Ortofon 'SPU' reissues if you like).

If you have 78s from a bigger spread of dates, reasonable alternative would be something like a Shure M44 or SC36c, with a 78 stylus assembly from Expert Stylus .. though price-wise the options are much of a muchness with the AT unless you happen to have an M44 body kicking around.

I am getting pretty good results at the moment with a mono strapped M44 + a variety of stylus assemblies with tips of assorted sizes (historically the earlier the 78, the wider the groove). I previously had a very special Miyajima Premium 78 but had that tip replaced with a hybrid aluminium/bamboo cantilever and a 1.0 mil stylus for use with early microgroove LPs.

It's dead easy to strap a stereo cartridge for mono .. a figure of 8 loop of copper wire joining the L+/R+ and L-/R- terminals does the job and saves having to remember to push the mono button on the preamp. Strictly speaking a proper mono cartridge, single coil operating only in the horizontal plane, will give better results, but on 78s you'd struggle to hear this. Different story with LPs where a decent mono cartridge makes a massive difference to what you can get out of mono records.

Thank you.

I see AT make two carts, an MM and the high output moving coil. Will this still be olay with a mm stage or would it be best for a special 78 moving coil stage?

[montesquieu]

Thank you.

I see AT make two carts, an MM and the high output moving coil. Will this still be olay with a mm stage or would it be best for a special 78 moving coil stage?

The mono3/sp is a high output MC that works fine into MM for 78s. (There is also the mono3/LP, and the higher spec AT33MONO - both intended for later LP mono and reissues with a standard/stereo width groove size - I had my mono3/LP retipped with a 1mil conical for playing early microgroove mono LPs).

There is as you point out, also a new AT mono MM, the VM610MONO, which I take from the specs to be a normal cartridge strapped internally for mono (the mono3/sp and mono3/LP as I understand it are true mono outputting only from movement in the horizontal plane). I don't know if the VM610MONO can be got with a wider 78 tip (the spec suggests it's also intended for late mono LPs and re-issues - the tip is a very narrow 0.6mil conical), but the mono3/SP has the wider tip for 78 as standard.

All of these will be fine into a MM stage.

[allthingsanalogue]

I've always wanted to try one so here goes, just ordered one for the Techie.

[CageyH]

I currently have one installed on my old skool Techie.