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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    i think you are over vastly valuing them, but happy to be wrong.
    I'd rather over-value than under-value, you can always drop the price if you get no bites but selling it for a lot less than it is worth cannot be rectified.

    According to TVK the loudspeakers alone are both very rare and highly sought after, To me that means at least a few grand right there.
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    Mike, my advice is first to try and sell it on forums, and simply ask for sensible offers (to give you a guide), based on what similar kit to yours has sold for recently (anywhere, ebay or whatever), and if you're simply being hit with 'low-ballers', take it to the likes of German ebay (as an auction with a properly assessed fixed reserve), or as Ali says, Gumtree.

    Based on my experience, unless you're *very lucky*, the UK is not the market to get a proper price for this type of equipment. Most potential buyers who appreciate what you've got and are willing to pay what it's properly worth, will live in the likes of Germany, Greece, Italy or the US, or perhaps even Japan.

    Therefore, you need to expose your ad to those types of buyers, and be prepared to pack the gear professionally (you've already got a head start here, as it's boxed as new, which trust me will be a HUGE selling point), insure it properly and ship it abroad, as IMO the rewards of doing so, in terms of the price you're likely to get, compared with selling it here on forums, will be more than worth it!

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    If you sell ebay to Germany ship with the global ebay post programme, then any f-ups are ebays issue. Ebay is perfectly safe if you stick to buyers with a 100% record. if something smells fishy with a buyer it usually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I'd rather over-value than under-value, you can always drop the price if you get no bites but selling it for a lot less than it is worth cannot be rectified.

    According to TVK the loudspeakers alone are both very rare and highly sought after, To me that means at least a few grand right there.
    Have to remember that the foam speaker surrounds have disintegrated and i tried a chap in Russia who can get square surrounds for the smaller models but unfortunately not The APM 6. Apparently the same foam is also used within the speaker waffle and therefore even if the surrounds could be sourced they wouldn't be the only thing required for a total repair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Mike, my advice is first to try and sell it on forums, and simply ask for sensible offers (to give you a guide), based on what similar kit to yours has sold for recently (anywhere, ebay or whatever), and if you're simply being hit with 'low-ballers', take it to the likes of German ebay (as an auction with a properly assessed fixed reserve), or as Ali says, Gumtree.

    Based on my experience, unless you're *very lucky*, the UK is not the market to get a proper price for this type of equipment. Most potential buyers who appreciate what you've got and are willing to pay what it's properly worth, will live in the likes of Germany, Greece, Italy or the US, or perhaps even Japan.

    Therefore, you need to expose your ad to those types of buyers, and be prepared to pack the gear professionally (you've already got a head start here, as it's boxed as new, which trust me will be a HUGE selling point), insure it properly and ship it abroad, as IMO the rewards of doing so, in terms of the price you're likely to get, compared with selling it here on forums, will be more than worth it!

    Marco.
    Many thanks for the good advice Marco

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    Quote Originally Posted by Four Eyes View Post
    Have to remember that the foam speaker surrounds have disintegrated and i tried a chap in Russia who can get square surrounds for the smaller models but unfortunately not The APM 6. Apparently the same foam is also used within the speaker waffle and therefore even if the surrounds could be sourced they wouldn't be the only thing required for a total repair.
    For the value of the speakers, all those problems can be overcome. There will be someone, somewhere, who can sort it, or knows how to sort it.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > Troels Gravesen Faital 3WC-15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sq225917 View Post
    If you sell ebay to Germany ship with the global ebay post programme, then any f-ups are ebays issue. Ebay is perfectly safe if you stick to buyers with a 100% record. if something smells fishy with a buyer it usually is.
    Thanks

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    Hmm. I'd love to see somebody find foam surrounds for those. Let alone make some. They could be made from the right foam sheet, but you'd need a heatproof mould to thermoset the profile.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    For the value of the speakers, all those problems can be overcome. There will be someone, somewhere, who can sort it, or knows how to sort it.
    That's good news - cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Hmm. I'd love to see somebody find foam surrounds for those. Let alone make some. They could be made from the right foam sheet, but you'd need a heatproof mould to thermoset the profile.
    But it could be done as those resources exist and are not scarce.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > Troels Gravesen Faital 3WC-15.

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