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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yup, claimed improvements in the new motor aside, there are no 'issues' I can hear with the motor unit in my own 1210. The sound is rock-solid and stable, at all times, with no audible 'cogging effect' (as some have claimed with the 1200/1210), rumble or wow and flutter, in any way whatsoever.

    The quality of the motor unit is indeed the main strength of the Technics, so it would interesting to hear what the new motor unit brings to the party, sonically. The other thing with modded Techies, of any description, is the question of synergy [and *genuinely achieving* it]....

    With all the various mods available, from mats to bearings and PSUs, etc, from various manufacturers, the best sounding modded Techies will always be those where genuine synergy has been achieved, in terms not only of bringing the effect of all the mods together, symbiotically, as a musical whole, but crucially also those of the partnering tonearm and cartridge.

    I've heard many rather disappointing sounding modded 1200s and 1210s, fitted with upgraded bearings, platters and PSUs, simply because the owner has fitted the wrong tonearm and/or cartridge, whose sonic signature simply doesn't suit that of the T/T itself, or the mods which have been applied to it.

    In that respect, it takes both a good pair of ears and a fundamental understanding of what you're trying to achieve, from modding a 1200/1210, to finally arrive at something that's genuinely capable of delivering musical synergy

    Marco.
    Agree on all counts Marco. Hence like yourself I've upgraded my Techie with an understanding of what I'm actually doing and what I'm aiming to achieve rather than just 'upgrade' per se

    I've never in all the years I've been into hifi read about cogging 'issues relating to the 12XX, no owner sayin ' Oh the cogging problem i'm experiencing with my SL12XX !' as I say, never seen or heard of that.

    We know it's been spouted in the past by some of the agenda driven belt drive brigade / manufacturers towards dd's in general without any real facts.

    The 12XX figures for distortion / wow and flutter etc are well documented as excellent.

    This wiki link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technics_SL-1200 bares very positive insight about the 12XX's motor - see comments under 'Design Strengths' towards bottom page.

    Another thing I found really interesting is comments under 'Rebirth' SL1200G.
    *Note that it says .... complete with a microprocessor and rotary positing sensors to eliminate cogging,

    Now, before the belt drive contingent jump up and and down with excitement, conveniently ignoring the well known high praise figures and positives of the 12XX's motor system.....

    It's clear to me that Technics Panasonic designed the 12XX in a way that deals with any potential for cogging within the design hence it was never an issue.

    All the above comment regarding the new 1200G shows us is that the new design eliminates any potential, not that there's an issue as such
    Last edited by RobbieGong; 02-07-2017 at 20:41.

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