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Thread: Are we, and have we for some time, been in the era of throwaway CD players?

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    XLR outputs though, well ahead of its time
    Well, you would not expect anything else on a pro machine. Cannons predate CD by some time, look at a BBC SP10 for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurcher View Post
    Well, you would not expect anything else on a pro machine. Cannons predate CD by some time, look at a BBC SP10 for example.
    Very true, but look at other CD manufacturers from the time period, very few were putting balanced outputs on their machines at that time, even in the pro market. It's comparatively rare these days on consumer models although it's obviously now the standard on pro machines.

    As an aside, it's amazing how many people believe the name 'XLR' refers to the pin configuration.

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    I'm telling you anyone looking for a top-notch CDP on the cheap the Technics SL-P1300-KM is one to go for (notice the model number which relates to the SL-1200 turntable - it was designed to sound like the SL-1200). This CDP would piss all over most of the stuff made today - no question. I used to sell them in the late 80s when I worked in the electrical department of a large well-known department store.

    Hey, I wonder what kind of DAC chips it uses? Could it be a 'TDA1541-er'...

    I've found that top-notch broadcast gear is invariably superb for hi-fi use. Think SP10s, EMTs, Studers, etc. The key is it's all properly built and engineered to a very high standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I've found that top-notch broadcast gear is invariably superb for hi-fi use. Think SP10s, EMTs, Studers, etc. The key is it's all properly built and engineered to a very high standard.
    I have to agree... build quality is often great, and the utilitarian design can often be pleasing. Semi-pro gear can be less pleasing though... The mid-80's Tandberg tape decks are very nice (there's one on ebay at the moment that I'd be after if I'd not got a Nak already). Nagra's are just beautiful, functionally they have stacks of things you'd never need for home-use, but for playback and record quality, rock-solid reliability and brilliant design they just can't be beaten...
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    I think that more people should become switched onto the classic/broadcast gear mindset, and perhaps then they wouldn't end up wasting sometimes thousands of pounds on hi-fi, chasing a dream that with their current system-building methods they're unlikely to fulfil

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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    I love it, and I'd use one without a second's thought!!

    Just look at the build quality, ergonomics and user-friendliness of it, too. It's difficult to tell listening on a laptop, but I bet that the EMT would piss all over many (equivalently expensive, and more so) 'high-end hi-fi' CDPs!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I love it, and I'd use one without a second's thought!!

    Just look at the build quality, ergonomics and user-friendliness of it, too. It's difficult to tell listening on a laptop, but I bet that the EMT would piss all over many (equivalently expensive, and more so) 'high-end hi-fi' CDPs!

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    Love the silky smooth silent drawer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo View Post
    Love the silky smooth silent drawer!

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