Technics Bearing Mod

[Dave Cawley]

Flew over my head Why? Me cryptic? no way!!

There is often more between the lines of what I say, than there is in the lines themselves.............

But do they look familiar, the position that is?

I'm researching quite a lot on SP-10 and SL-1200, as you all know, there are a few Technics decks made out of very strange parts, masquerading with inappropriate model number series, and this is one of them.

Regards

Mystic Dave

[Marco]

There is often more between the lines of what I say, than there is in the lines themselves.............

Aye, you don't say!!

Marco.

[MartinT]

So they took an SP-10 chassis but lost the external PSU and loaded it with 1210 parts, motor and switches. Cheeky! Still, it's their product design but confusing for us punters.

[MartinT]

Oh and I particularly liked "using 150 tone arms of stylus pressure".

[TONEPUB]

Hi Marco

It is a pity your experience of shows is so limited (so far) Why not come to Munich or CES? Then you would be in a position of knowledge, and knowledge is power man!! Also the food is very good...............

I know of no Ushers that have been reviewed that are better than the expensive GumuT's, can you point me to a source? I believe you misunderstood the GumuT's, slim? no way! see the size of the drivers?? Wow!! You and some friends could live in one.

Your suspicions are thankfully incorrect! One of the best amps I have tried here was a pair of 300B monoblocks, the total cost was > £30K and they really rocked! I rarely if ever push any sort of power amplifier. But I do push Phono Stages, and the top runners in my very wide experience are Plinius, Whest Audio PS.30R and A.N.T. I have a lot of equipment passing through here on loan from manufactures, my experience is very wide and I can speak with authority on my visits to Munich and CES. You really, really must come next time and compare notes with me in real time. I can show you the light at the end of the tunnel, and take you there.

Regards

Dave (can you see my tongue firmly implanted in my cheek?)

Hi Dave:

I'm with you on the GamuT S-7's, my current reference speakers that are about to be replaced this month by the big boys, the S-9's! Whether they are the "world's best speakers" or not, they are my favorites.

But back to the bearing, with your new bearing, can it also be replaced with just a phillips screwdriver? Will definitely have to purchase one after the new year!

Can't wait. And am definitely going to try and make the Munich show this year....

[Dave Cawley]

Hi Jeff

I'm trying to get a customer to take a pair of S-7's, the factory will do a good price on two pairs, so one for me perhaps? I heard the S-9's at the show Marco was at. David Price (editor of Hi Fi World) agreed that they were without doubt one of the World's best speakers. The sheer scale of dynamics achieved with a third more 'bass driver cone area' than a single 15", was an experience not to be missed.

Right now my Focal 1038Be's with one third less cone area than a 15" unit, are now working exceptionally well. Stupidly I had them on each edge of a bay window, all the bass as they say "went out of the window" Now I have moved the contents of the room by 90 degrees I get thundering bass as Focal suggested. Still want a pair of S-7's though!

The bearing mod is 20 minutes, operation only from above, and only needs a Philips screwdriver.

Munich, a place to explore bold new worlds of Hi Fi, to watch listen and learn. Add you favourites up, consider the £450K credit card bill, and go home knowing your existing system isn't that bad after all. But no nagging doubts anymore, you have seen the light at the end of the tunnel, travelled there and seen the big picture!

Regards

Dave

[Marco]

Hi Dave,

I'm trying to get a customer to take a pair of S-7's, the factory will do a good price on two pairs, so one for me perhaps? I heard the S-9's at the show Marco was at. David Price (editor of Hi Fi World) agreed that they were without doubt one of the World's best speakers. The sheer scale of dynamics achieved with a third more 'bass driver cone area' than a single 15", was an experience not to be missed.

You must visit me sometime and listen to the Lockwoods (or perhaps come to the forthcoming Scalford Hall bake-off), because if you think what you heard there at Whittlebury Hall was impressive in the way you've described (which I heard too, so I can make the comparison), then quite clearly me old mucker, you ain't heard nothing yet!

Regarding what you're alluding to with your observation of "a third more bass driver cone area than a single 15", theories are all good and well, but it's how things translate in the final analysis in the real world, that count – i.e. when you listen… That's the real proof of the pudding!

Like I've said before, the GamuTs were (by my standards) good but nowhere near as special as you're making out. You're of course entitled to disagree, and that's fine, but then you haven't heard the Lockwoods with Tannoy 15" Monitor Golds, which for me do all the GamuTs did and more at a mere fraction of the price

Quite simply there is no way on this earth that I'd swap them for the GamuT S-9s, good as they are in their context.

Marco.

[Dave Cawley]

Hi Marco

Of course you wouldn't swap, we all know that! Why would you? The comments certainly weren't directed at you. And I would not even attempt to persuade you, but fresh customers yes I would!!

But we are talking about new loudspeakers here, and until I hear some new Westminster's, GamuT is the way to go. And that is from experience of almost every make of new loudspeakers, gained by staying several nights in Munich to do the show for three days, and staying a lot longer at CES to evaluate everything there.

Regards

Dave

[Marco]

Hi Dave,

Of course you wouldn't swap, we all know that! Why would you?

Well, if they were unquestionably superior to my ears, (and I considered them to offer high SPPV), then I would. Nothing is forever

However, the above clearly isn't the case.

The comments certainly weren't directed at you.

I realised that, although you did mention my name. I was simply commenting and offering a different perspective for the benefits of our members, and since you were making a point which I didn't particularly agree with.

And I would not even attempt to persuade you, but fresh customers yes I would!!

And you'd be quite right to do so.

Marco.

P.S With regard to Westminsters, I don't think you'd like them, as despite being very talented in many areas, they exhibit rather more horn coloration than the Lockwoods (which in them is virtually absent); an effect which I suspect wouldn't sit entirely comfortably with the way you like music to be reproduced.

[TONEPUB]

Hi Marco

Of course you wouldn't swap, we all know that! Why would you? The comments certainly weren't directed at you. And I would not even attempt to persuade you, but fresh customers yes I would!!

But we are talking about new loudspeakers here, and until I hear some new Westminster's, GamuT is the way to go. And that is from experience of almost every make of new loudspeakers, gained by staying several nights in Munich to do the show for three days, and staying a lot longer at CES to evaluate everything there.

Regards

Dave

I definitely agree with you...

I love my S-7's. I've got ML CLX's, and a pair of Harbeth Mon 40.1's that I really enjoy, but the GamuT's really do it for me too. We have the new YG Anats in for review (very intriguing), the Focal Utopia Scalas (also very nice) and the Verity Sararstro II's, but I keep coming back to the overall balance of the GamuT, at least for my personal preference.

We'll definitely have to talk about that bearing!