Shian7
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Well it doesn't seem that way to me mike, particularly when I am forced to listen to Marco's rhetoric about his unique combination of golden ears and old sony kit.( I expect Ash will put him right though) I'm going to have a word with the Pope about him. Did you know Mr Ratzenburger and I have the same model of car ? people do say that it goes with my personality better though.
I suppose that along with "Dame Edna" (bless her, possums) we "International Superstars" can be a bit intense compared to the "minions" of the hifi arena.
JC is pretty typical of people who've bought ADM9's, we've always had enthusiastic followers but this is nothing short of miracle. An extremely high proportion of purchasers have written glowing testimonials, SOS have offered to give private ones to anyone seriously interested and the rows on various Forums I've been blamed for have actually because of the many others, who like JC, have bought the things and realised how much of a step forward they are. All they've done is tell people who don't want to hear they can do far better for a fraction of the money they've spent on their systems.
However this is a hobby disposed to intransigent bigots; Here we are coming to the end of CD and still there are people not only using Turntables but actually arguing they are better than CD. I'll bet there are people still using gas lighting too and they aren't representative either.
You're just going to have to accept that ADM9's are a product that produces religious fervour amongst their supporters and be sympathetic. JC has a real sense of humour, he's not bitter like Richard and he's converted his friend www.fwhifi.co.uk to computers and probably given his business a shot in the arm in doing so.
It seems to me that people on this Forum want Cart Blanche to rubbish AVI and ADM9s and also to be able to shriek with protest at any defence mustered by me or anyone else and condemn it as blatant and naff sales attempts. The best thing to do is leave them out of all discussions, ignore them and see what happens.
You might also remember that one of the true gentlemen of this Industry is Peter Comeau and that he sells Valve Amp kits via Hi Fi World. If you genuinely want to enjoy these things, you could do worse than buy from him. I'm certain the back up would be as good as it gets.
Ash
I have no wish to rubbish you, or your companies products, what I do however have is the desire to listen to my music, in the way I, and the rest of my family enjoy. Why you have to persistently whitter on that you, and your disciples have seen the one true light is beyond me. You are offering a product to market, some will be interested, some will not. That is part of the market.
You may very well be right that we are coming to the end of CD, but if the only widely available music source is then to be compressed or lossless file downloads then I think it is a sad era approaching for music lovers. The ins and outs of DRM managed music files is a long way from being resolved, and if the music industry decides that, at the death of CD, that DRM will be imposed, then it will be, despite what you, the owners of the file formats, or apple/Windows say about it. This decision, IF taken by the music industry will also shut off a large part of the world that do not have access to computers in the home to any kind of recorded music.
I still feel that part of the attraction of digital music for many is the ease with which files are exchanged, and not all legally.
From my own point of view, if it becomes impossible to buy new music other than as a blasted download, unless that download is unmanaged, and can freely be burnt to CD for me to use as I see fit, then I will not be buying it, in fact my music purchases would be restricted to vinyl.
If that makes me an intransigent bigot then so be it, but I fail to see why I should be told by you, or any other interested business party how often and what machines I am allowed to use to play my purchased music. I equally would be very adverse to the latest money earning ideas from mac, pay more for the machine and have access to ''our'' library, or pay a flat monthly fee for access, again an idea that relies on the paying customer having Internet access available.
As for being sympathetic, why, I have little sympathy for any religious zealot from any walk of like, and given the nature of the discussions that have taken place on a number of boards I don't think you have the right to accuse anyone of being either intransigent or bigoted.
sod the hi-fi, listen to the music
Lounge:
Samsung QE65QN80F 65" QLED TV
Echo Link streamer
RME Audio ADI-2 FS (AK4493) DAC
XMOS DSD Async
Emotiva A2+ power amplifier
Neat Motive SX1 speakers
Van Damme 4.00mm tour grade speaker cable
Audiocrast Spreizbar banana plugs
Chord Clearway XLR interconnects
Audioquest Crimson USB interconnect
QED Quartz Reference optical interconnect
Studio:
2022 MacBook Pro 14" M1 Pro 10/16/16/16
SMSL SU-1 DAC
Modified Fosi P4 preamp
Adam Audio T5Vs
Fenton 10" active sub
Fosi V1.0G integrated amp
Roxel RBS 300s
Several small valve preamps
Last edited by Mike; 23-04-2008 at 21:27.
Shian7
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Kudakutemo
kudakutemo
ari mizu-no tsuki
Though it be be broken -
broken again - still it's there:
the moon on the water.
- Choshu.
Shian7
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Kudakutemo
kudakutemo
ari mizu-no tsuki
Though it be be broken -
broken again - still it's there:
the moon on the water.
- Choshu.
Posts: 424
I am not a religious zealot, colin, your term is inappropriate and derogatory.Originally Posted by Colin
Rather I think what I said earlier applies. Here's a reminder.
And also I think you are a bit confused hereOriginally Posted by JCBRUM
The whole arena of digital music includes CD of course and has done for the last 30 years, it is only a very, very, small number of people who buy any new analogue equipment at all, certainly no longer enough to sustain the industry in hardware terms. Hence the emergence of Ebay bedroom-traders, such as Richard, simply because he has no other viable market. The usual dealers of legacy separates are also dumping their unsold stocks on ebay to try to re-equip with digital stuff that people want to buy.Originally Posted by Colin
It was not the music publishers that brought about the death of CD, it was the buying public, who had enough of being dictated to. They chose not to buy them, and instead turned to the excellent digital computer technology which is hifi today. No one can sell something that is not wanted but you are deluded if you think valve amps, legacy separates, big-old speakers are what people want. Look at the statistics, 200 million people have stopped using CD players and now keep their music on computers. Are you saying they are all fools colin ?
Well you said it !Originally Posted by Colin
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JCB or whatever. I suggest you read ashleys post as well as mine
I had typed a rather long reply, but decided that it really is not worth it, It feels like a conversation with my Dad
Last edited by Colinx; 23-04-2008 at 22:09.
sod the hi-fi, listen to the music
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