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Thread: Bargains on ebay? (Part 2)

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    Very nice... My Lockwoods originally came with a pair of Reds in, which I later swapped for Golds, as their overall presentation was more preferable in my system. Reds, being 15ohms, need matching with vintage valve amps, fitted with 15ohms taps, not the 8ohms ones most modern amps are fitted with.

    Also, Reds, along with Silvers and Blacks are voiced rather differently from Golds, as they hark from before the popular music era (or at least Silvers and Blacks do, but Reds share their inherent traits), and as such, despite their size, don't really do deep bass. Instead their (considerable) talents lie in the midrange, where they are utterly, UTTERLY SUBLIME!

    Fine if you're musical tastes are light classical, jazz, choral, acoustic or similar, but not so good if you're also into rock, dance, electronic, rap or anything else that carries what one could call an 'aggressive' bass line (count me in), so that's why I moved the Reds on. Golds have 95% of the magical midrange of the Reds, but also do the bass thing with aplomb!

    However, I paid £3.5k for my Lockwood Majors *with* 15" Reds in, so if the drive units alone go for what Geoff predicts (and I would tend to agree), then that'll be quite something. Thing is, sonic prowess aside (and if your music tastes and system match the abilities of the Reds, once in suitable cabinets, nothing short of £50K today will be able to compete), one has to consider the (acute) rarity value here.

    Anyway, whoever wins them will not only have a genuinely world-class pair of iconic speakers, but a big slice of audio history!

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Ooooh. Any bets as to how much these NOS boxed Tannoy 15" Red drivers with their crossovers will fetch? Mega rare in this condition!

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tannoy-Red...4AAOSwQYZWvPXj

    Nine days to go and bid up to £1320 so far. I'm guessing maybe they'll go for £5000 to £7000.

    And sound waaaaay better than your HPD's

    S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southall-1998 View Post
    And sound waaaaay better than your HPD's

    S.
    But I don't own HPDs Shane.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Ooooh. Any bets as to how much these NOS boxed Tannoy 15" Red drivers with their crossovers will fetch? Mega rare in this condition!

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tannoy-Red...4AAOSwQYZWvPXj

    Nine days to go and bid up to £1320 so far. I'm guessing maybe they'll go for £5000 to £7000.
    I would be somewhat wary of bidding on these - see the neg feedback
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    But I don't own HPDs Shane.
    Oh bugger I forgot.

    S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    nothing short of £50K today will be able to compete
    £50K is an awful lot of money...
    Bev


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    It's not an FFSS type arm. It's a Deram I believe (as somebody informed me recently). Certainly not worth £100 in my humble opinion.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninanina View Post
    £50K is an awful lot of money...
    Indeed, but I've heard plenty of modern speakers (TAD or Magico anyone?) at that sort of price and beyond, sound completely sterile and bereft of music merit, in comparison - and simply wouldn't get NEAR to replicating what a pair of 15" Reds (in the right cabs) are capable of

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    I would avoid - it looks primitive with the Garrard SP25 headshell. If you really want a Decca arm, you would be better off spending more on a fixed headshell Decca arm, such as the 'London', or better still the 'International'.
    Barry

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