LOL.
Anthony, at least I'll be able to hear their 'benchmark', which will allow me in future to comment with authority on ADM9s, iPods and MacBooks as a 'hi-end' hi-fi source
Marco.
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LOL.
Anthony, at least I'll be able to hear their 'benchmark', which will allow me in future to comment with authority on ADM9s, iPods and MacBooks as a 'hi-end' hi-fi source
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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ehmmm!!!
Please make your own thread and bugger off! Then perhaps we can get back to being rude about retailers.
Marco you made your bed with these idiots, you will just have to sleep in it!
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here, here.....Originally Posted by Marco
LOL.
Anthony, at least I'll be able to hear their 'benchmark', which will allow me in future to comment with authority on ADM9s, iPods and MacBooks as a 'hi-end' hi-fi source
Marco.
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Marco
There are substantial improvements in modern electronics over those made 20 years ago and they are audible whether you like it or not, however it's dotty to argue about what is still a good CD player with a better life expectancy than those made now. It's not like record players which really are poor performers and listened to by people who've been Linn-washed!
Ash
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ash,
you cannot keep comparing up to date recording/playback technolgy with those old 78's you used to play, those are not the type of records we are talking about.
and by the way, if those 78's are sounding that bad, i suggest you change the needle, it may have gone a bit blunt! you should find some new ones in a little tin that was suppled with your gramaphone!!!
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No offence Mr C but you're a bit of a plonker if you don't think we do real world listening.Perhaps some real world listening may help Ashley.
Then again perhaps not
We have quite a few customers and friends who actually record Acoustic instruments, even Big Bands as well as all sort of speech and electronic music. They come here will proper references and they help us. We're not arrogant enough to trust our own judgement alone.
I'll bet you have no proper references, just a blind faith in pricey exotica.
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When will you give up?
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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True, but the entertainment value is priceless!!
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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I prefer 78's to LPs because they don't have the phase problems that comes with "stereo" cartridges and poor channel separation. However any that I listen to came from JC and are MP3's, which does help.
Ash
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I'm Neal.
Maybe they all sound the same because the implementation of each "design" is really just datasheet engineering. The "designer" is assuming the manufacturer has the datasheet right with regards to sound quality.....maybe.You must understand that all modern DAC chips have remarkably similar performances and are virtually impossible to tell apart. Therefore when you listen to a commercial DAC, you're hearing the designers implementation of the instructions he'll have been given and you may also be hearing interaction between the Amplifier and the DAC if that's no good as well. Just as though you'd given your mother and several of her friends a collection of ingredients and asked them all to bake a cake, they'd get different results. With cakes it doesn't matter but with DAC's it does.
The Gainclone DIY fraternity is a classic example. Stick to the datasheet and you get a stable working amplifier that will meet the datasheet specs. As such it sounds poor and they all sound the same. The broad base of DIY'ers have shared knowledge and experiences over the last few years finding ways to improve the sound by implementing different topologies that the manufacture would not have thought of. The result is different flavours of the same basic design but suited to an individuals tastes, sure some sound dire (but no worse than the datasheet implementation) and other truly stunning.
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