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  1. #431
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfway Tree View Post
    Yes, Ali's point was what I was trying to say. The Eddingdales and Linkwitz speakers will have a much narrower polar response and therefore their interaction with the room was way less.
    Ah, I see... Now I get you! Yup, if that was a factor, then would I would certainly agree it would have a marked effect on the behaviour/performance of the speakers in question.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  2. #432
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    Because the Yamahas and the Jbl's have huge fhooking bass drivers...perhaps...and the Eddies do not...
    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    No worries. However, I'm not sure what point you're making with that last bit...

    The point I was making was that if the acoustics of the room were so bad in the areas where both Rich's and Ken's system were, how were the Eddingdales, which were used later in Rich's system (in that same area), not as affected by room issues as the JBLs and Yammies appeared to be?

    Marco.
    'ANDSOME IN THE SUMMER..'ORIBBLE IN THE WINTER. Barney Milne

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    Quick word to add to the thanks for Steve organising the event.
    Well worth the trip and great to put faces to the names...a good bunch of guys too.

    Thoroughly enjoyed myself, got to hear some great (and very different) kit, which is what its all about.

    Shame about the few technical problems on the day, these things cant be factored in and it wouldn't be a hifi get together without SOMETHING happening.

    That said I was a wee bit gutted when the mains issues stopped my 300B working properly.
    There's a bit of magic goes on when its hooked up to the Edingdales and I was looking forward to letting you guys hear it.
    That said, before the mains started it farting at two cycles per second it didn't sound too bad, room issues aside.
    Agree with Ali that at these shows you wont get the sound you get at home, so the trick always for me is to go with the flow and just enjoy it.

    On a personal note, I was interested to hear the various passive pre's with the Edingdales and compare to my Densen. I've heard the Slagel in my own system so looked forward to hearing the other passives.
    Have to agree with Marco, pretty incolclusive and I didn't come away with any urge to change, so will be good to hear Marco's Goldpoint (with the Z-Foils?) next time he's back up in the Old Country.

    Shame too about Rich's problems with the NVA gear?
    Is good kit and not a lot of people have heard it, so would have been good for it to have got an airing all going well.
    The Nebo gremlins had other plans though, but hey what can you do?

    Loved Gordon's active system, the open baffles always do well at these events.
    Highlight for me was unexpected, the Mission 752 speaker lash up!
    Back in the day I always wanted a set but being a skint student I couldn't afford them. Great to hear them again, that system boogied really well...ZZ Top sounded great!

    So heres to Nebo 7, well done guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad-moon View Post
    Because the Yamahas and the Jbl's have huge fhooking bass drivers...perhaps...and the Eddies do not...
    Yup, hadn't considered that

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Ken made some very valid comments about the stands they were on which, whilst attractive may not be the best design. He also remarked he got more bass from them standing at the other end of the room where they were transferring it all down through the raised floor section (presumably hollow box beneath where we were sitting) which makes me think if they'd been on the dancefloor with a couple of bits of granite under them they'd have been fine.

    The one thing I can say for certain having messed around with them at home (concrete floors, close to a rear wall, listening from around 8ft away with 6ft between them) is that whatever was happening on the day isnt down to the amps, cables or indeed the speakers themselves.
    One of these days... I'm going to cut you into little pieces.

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    Those Freedoms are a semi-forgotten gem from Mission...still a very nice floor stander punching heavy weight..though long discontinued...one of the better budget speakers where Mission hit the nail right on the head...
    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Quick word to add to

    the thanks for Steve organising the event.
    Well worth the trip and great to put faces to the names...a good bunch of guys too.

    Thoroughly enjoyed myself, got to hear some great (and very different) kit, which is what its all about.

    Shame about the few technical problems on the day, these things cant be factored in and it wouldn't be a hifi get together without SOMETHING happening.

    That said I was a wee bit gutted when the mains issues stopped my 300B working properly.
    There's a bit of magic goes on when its hooked up to the Edingdales and I was looking forward to letting you guys hear it.
    That said, before the mains started it farting at two cycles per second it didn't sound too bad, room issues aside.
    Agree with Ali that at these shows you wont get the sound you get at home, so the trick always for me is to go with the flow and just enjoy it.

    On a personal note, I was interested to hear the various passive pre's with the Edingdales and compare to my Densen. I've heard the Slagel in my own system so looked forward to hearing the other passives.
    Have to agree with Marco, pretty incolclusive and I didn't come away with any urge to change, so will be good to hear Marco's Goldpoint (with the Z-Foils?) next time he's back up in the Old Country.

    Shame too about Rich's problems with the NVA gear?
    Is good kit and not a lot of people have heard it, so would have been good for it to have got an airing all going well.
    The Nebo gremlins had other plans though, but hey what can you do?

    Loved Gordon's active system, the open baffles always do well at these events.
    Highlight for me was unexpected, the Mission 752 speaker lash up!
    Back in the day I always wanted a set but being a skint student I couldn't afford them. Great to hear them again, that system boogied really well...ZZ Top sounded great!

    So heres to Nebo 7, well done guys.
    'ANDSOME IN THE SUMMER..'ORIBBLE IN THE WINTER. Barney Milne

    Cambridge Audio CXN, Seagate nas drive, Michell Gyrodec SE, SME309, Benz M2 Ruby cantilever, Denon DL103, Primare R32, Densen D20, Densen D30, Cambridge Audio 840A V2 integrated, Pioneer SX-N30AE Network Stereo Receiver, Roksan Darius speakers, Technics speakers, Canon speakers, Bastanis Dragonfly Horns, REL Storm III sub, Target R1 speaker stands, Atacama Equinox.

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    You'll find out next year in the summer...when we go to No.7..I'm looking forward to it..It was a very interesting day....You all might get the pleasure of Big Al's Rig too..I'm getting the Itch.

    Quote Originally Posted by RichB View Post
    Ken made some very valid comments about the stands they were on which, whilst attractive may not be the best design. He also remarked he got more bass from them standing at the other end of the room where they were transferring it all down through the raised floor section (presumably hollow box beneath where we were sitting) which makes me think if they'd been on the dancefloor with a couple of bits of granite under them they'd have been fine.

    The one thing I can say for certain having messed around with them at home (concrete floors, close to a rear wall, listening from around 8ft away with 6ft between them) is that whatever was happening on the day isnt down to the amps, cables or indeed the speakers themselves.
    'ANDSOME IN THE SUMMER..'ORIBBLE IN THE WINTER. Barney Milne

    Cambridge Audio CXN, Seagate nas drive, Michell Gyrodec SE, SME309, Benz M2 Ruby cantilever, Denon DL103, Primare R32, Densen D20, Densen D30, Cambridge Audio 840A V2 integrated, Pioneer SX-N30AE Network Stereo Receiver, Roksan Darius speakers, Technics speakers, Canon speakers, Bastanis Dragonfly Horns, REL Storm III sub, Target R1 speaker stands, Atacama Equinox.

  8. #438
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    Just like to add what a bake off,'twas my 3rd and they just get better. Nice to meet up with new and old friends alike. Gordon I thought your rig with the linkwitz speakers was something very special,masses of controlled low end.
    Micks radford showing old doesn't always mean outdated just superb. Glad everybody got home ok aswell especially Jez
    Well done bud you deserve a medal for biking in that sort of weather. Thanks to Steve (petchy) for been a host with the most and for allowing people like me the opportunity to not only listen to and admire great kit but to meet great people it really means a lot to me btw your a canny air guitarist to boot. I will keep my promise aswell Steve and bring the jvc next nebo(sorry)!!!!!!!
    ROLL ON NEBO 7

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    I'll bring some power cables and mains conditioning to try with the various gear,if you like. As I said earlier, the next NEBO can't happen fast enough. Been reading comments and in my humble opinion is, I thought the Linkwitz with the 4 dacs sounded superb and didn't seem to suffer from any room interaction issuses. I thought the Yamaha NSM's with the Seasick Steve track was excellent but not quite as good with busier music, still nice though. Next up Rich B's JBL's, were a quite bass domineering sound, would be lovely if the balance could be sorted so the mids were more prominent. The Nordge speakers were lovely with the Derrin Norendorf, (I think), but were really messy with music that was busier. I would've loved to have heard the set ups with my Isotek Sigmas in situ as this has a habit of really letting you hear into a busy track. We'll find out next year, and thanks again for a lovely day.

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    I enjoyed our chat Vince. Look forward to seeing you next time.

    I forgot to mention meeting Chris (Stratmangler) for the first time. Chris was already a member when I joined AOS years ago and he has helped me out a few times with some good advice so it was great to meet him in person.
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    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > Troels Gravesen Faital 3WC-15.

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