Ashley & JC's assorted musings

[Colinx]

Colin the point is that what you condescendingly call mass market is actually just as good for sound quality and a hell of a lot better to use.

You're using a computer to discuss this so would presumably be even happier with a much better, easier to use and more versatile one that took up less space.

And if you read my piece more carefully you'll see that I qualified exactly the area I was referring to; High quality sound reproducing equipment, NOT basic commercial is what I said and meant. The thread is in relation to hi fi Shops.

Ashley

PS. Marco is talking through his hat, it isn't a good post and I didn't mention Apple TV and he's never used one so shouldn't be commenting on it till he knows what it can do and how well it works.

Not in the least, my main computer is mainly used to connect to a HP/UX server, and to prepare quotations, plan production, expedite orders, typical work type stuff, It runs on windows XP, and has not shown a problem in 4 years usage. The PC I use on internet forums/e-mail etc is in my study/home office alongside the main PC, yet another room without a TV, yes I have seen a apple TV thing in action alongside a mac mini, (not real hands on, a demo at a local (ish) apple shop, it was either spend a few minutes with that or search yet another shoe shop with my wife, I picked what I mistakenly assumed would be the lesser of two evils. I personally thought it was a superb idea, you can record all the TV output you avoided the first time round, so that you could avoid it again and again. Oh and yes you can watch films, and stuff like that. We actually have cinema's for that, the seats may not be as comfy as the one's at home, but I find the screen a bit better.

I also fail to understand why you seem to think that a computer is better to use than a CD player, my wife, who is reasonably intelligent, despite marrying me, loves music, she enjoys choosing which slab of outdated vinyl, or CD to drop into the respective player and enjoy, she does however, in common with a large number of other people HATE computers. So to follow your lead I would effectively block her enjoyment of music.

I am willing to accept that what you are saying (promoting??) has merit, and do use computer stored audio in the working area of the house, you unfortunately seem to be hell bent on decrying anyone who has a differing point of view, including your old customers. It must be very pleasing to know that the manufacturer of your AVI CD players, pre and power amps and passive speakers thinks you are an idiot for buying them, and you should buy the new wunderkind product and laptop from some orchard.

[anthonyTD]

So you actually acknowledge what the thread is about, wonders will never cease. So we can ignore all your claptrap about AVI and ADM9 etc as completely irrelevent, thank goodness for that.

You and JC are basically just walking marketing disease at its worst. But admin wants to pad the forum with any crap he can get so you get away with it!

Anyway back on subject - the original post refered to retailers not hi-fi retailers - it is nothing to do with *your* products that hi-fi retailers are failing, but I am sure you really cannot see past your ego to anything sensible. IT IS ALL RETAILERS (apart from Tesco) and the cause is a recession and changing public buying habits which I am sure will effect AVI as well.

welcome back,
where you been???:

[WikiBoy]

Richard, I'm not sure whether I can welcome you back but I'll see how it goes, since you have mentioned me specifically. Personally I'm inclined to think that you have some challenges to meet as far as interaction with other people is concerned and from what I've seen I would not like to be left alone with you. Maybe you feel able to comment on this if you think you should.

As for calling me a "walking marketing disease at its worst" I can assure you that my involvement with AVI is simply that of an informed user.

It's true that Marco begged Ashley and myself to return from our boycott, but it has gone reasonably well since. Lets all try and do our best for AoS.



On the contrary, I get mail from many sources asking me for advice on digital music library's for hifi use, it is the only part of hifi which is spreading like wildfire, and Ashley tells me that anyone who sees it done properly is immediately enthusiastic.

With respect Richard, I think your products are as weird as you are and not for me, but If I were you, I think I would try and stay in business exactly as you are doing. I am sure you have your followers.

Regards JC.

Just more marketing crap, and if you do it without being paid then more fool you.

[Marco]

I think the fundamental difference between us is that I love music not equipment or playing with equipment.

So are you saying that I don't like music or that somehow you like it more than me? If so, we're liable to fall out on a major scale because that's bullshit and you couldn't be further from the truth!!!

I suggest you explain yourself, and quickly.

For many people, Ashley, including myself, hi-fi is also a hobby as well as something to enjoy our music on. Just as you like to play around with old cars, so do others and myself like to play around with old hi-fi. Some others will also enjoy playing around with new hi-fi, too. It's all part of the fun.

Not everyone is into 'fit and forget' hi-fi solutions, particularly when the one on offer isn't likely to give superior performance.

I "bother" with vinyl because I love collecting records, and despite all this wonderful technology it's still the music carrier with the highest resolution. I'd still be using reel-to-reel tape decks, too, if they were practical!

Marco.

[jcbrum]

I also fail to understand why you seem to think that a computer is better to use than a CD player, my wife, who is reasonably intelligent, despite marrying me, loves music, she enjoys choosing which slab of outdated vinyl, or CD to drop into the respective player and enjoy, she does however, in common with a large number of other people HATE computers. So to follow your lead I would effectively block her enjoyment of music.

I am willing to accept that what you are saying (promoting??) has merit, and do use computer stored audio in the working area of the house, you unfortunately seem to be hell bent on decrying anyone who has a differing point of view, including your old customers. It must be very pleasing to know that the manufacturer of your AVI CD players, pre and power amps and passive speakers thinks you are an idiot for buying them, and you should buy the new wunderkind product and laptop from some orchard.

With the natural exception of any knowledge of your wife, this is completely contradictory to my experiences and observations.

I suspect you are a stubborn old codger who doesn't know how to do it properly and refuses to learn new concepts.

I wonder, secretly if your wife doesn't actually agree with me ?

[Marco]

It's true that Marco begged Ashley and myself to return from our boycott,

Just to put that assertion into perspective: there's as much truth in it as you asking Ashley for a blow-job.



Marco.

[WikiBoy]

Erm, Richard, that's not the case at all. We happen to believe that all three of you have some valuable experience and expertise to offer members - if people can plough through the various agendas...

Everyone here has an 'asset to liability ratio'. At the moment it's favourable, as far as you three are concerned, but that can quickly change!

Marco.

That is out of order to lump me in with those two walking diseases. Show me one post where I have promoted NVA on this forum, it is even very unusual for the initials to be mentioned in any context in one of my posts. This is oppossed to AVI / ADM9 - repeat ad infinitum - in any post, any subject, any poster. If you really are so desperate to get volume then make it a tit and hi-fi forum, it couldn't get any more distorted.

You mention I have an agenda, well then please tell me what it is. As far as I know my only motivation is to sing the problems with this industry as loud as I can. It just happens you have one of the biggest industry problems encapsulated in these two peculiarities that you tolerate, so I sing!

[WikiBoy]

Just to put that assertion into perspective: there's as much truth in it as you asking Ashley for a blow-job.



Marco.

Now that would explain a lot!

[Marco]

I suspect you are a stubborn old codger who doesn't know how to do it properly and refuses to learn new concepts.

Hey, you're in no position to talk about old codgers!

And please don't make derogatory assumptions about people you don't know.

Marco.

[WikiBoy]

welcome back,
where you been???:

Sulking from being called a liar by some twat!