Calling All Upgraded Technics Owners

[jfine]

Really, who was the friend? It isn't something that can be plugged in, how did you restore it to the KAB afterwards? Or did you just plug it in without doing the other mods first? Could you be totally honest and up front about this? If you dreamt it in the shower, just tell us, we will understand!

Dave

I'm not going to give you anybodys name and I just soldered the other supply back, I am honest and now I'm pissed.

[jfine]

What I'm trying to say, is that I simply can't see "how" he could have tried both? It's not remotely easy and we are a tad suspicious that he hasn't?

Dave

What is your problem? It's not at all difficult. I'm rather tired of your insinuations.

[jfine]

Have you changed the stock headshell and lead wires, too? Those are crap and need immediate replacement if a serious hi-fi cartridge is to be used.

Look I've played with 2 other headshells and 1 set of other headshell wires. I like the stock one right now. Is this enough for you?

The fact is, just as you see Dave as behaving defensively towards his PSU, so are you also doing the same with the KAB one..

Wrong. I dont give a flying piss about the KAB one. I want to know how the timestep is better, that's all.

Once Dave's heard your voice he could then phone Kevin and see it it's the same - simple! ..

It proves nothing. If you and Dave think I'm in cahoots, then what does it prove?

Anyway, as I've said, this is all getting a bit silly, although if you guys chatted perhaps you'd respect each other more and the (ever-increasingly) thinly-disguised animosity in the dialogue between you here would cease?

Not if he keeps interrogating me. I have no respect for someone who is bent on trying to see if I'm lying when I have spoke the truth. Whatever, you guys think what you want, I dont care. Just let me ask my questions, all I did was ask Hypnotoad why he would choose something. Now everytime I ask a question about a soundhifi product you and Cawley are going to call me a liar?

[Marco]

Jeff, with respect, in the circumstances you can understand why we were slightly suspicious...

I'm personally willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, as it's only fair in the absence of irrefutable evidence which proves that you're being disingenuous, but I'm sure you'll agree that anyone joining a forum and making up pretend equipment comparisons in an attempt to discredit/devalue a particular product would be completely out of order. I'm not saying that you're doing that, though, but it happens for a variety of reasons.

I think we should leave it there now and move on. If you have any further queries regarding Technics T/T modifications then either I or others will be more than willing to answer them, or simply continue your dialogue with Hypnotoad as before - your choice

Marco.

[jfine]

Jeff, with respect, in the circumstances you can understand why we were slightly suspicious

I'm personally willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, as it's only fair in the absence of any irrefutable evidence which proves that you're being disingenuous, but I'm sure you'll agree that anyone joining a forum and making up pretend equipment comparisons in an attempt to discredit/devalue a particular product would be completely out of order.

However, I think we should leave it there now and move on. If you have any further queries regarding Technics T/T modifications then either I or others will be more than willing to answer them

Marco.

You guys have pretty much pissed me off. I came in to work this morning and read all the banter between you and Cawley trying to nail my @ss against a wall or something. Now my coffee's cold Whatever man, I don't need the benefit of a doubt, I can stand on my own, and people can think what they want, thank you. I for one have my own suspicions.

[Marco]

Ok, well that's fine. Let's get back to the thread topic now or whatever else it is you wish to discuss other than the above. Go and make some fresh coffee and come back when you're ready

Marco.

[MartinT]

My SL-1210 has the Timestep PSU, Jelco SA-250ST arm with Sound Hi-Fi arm plate, Audiophile mat, Isonoe feet, Bruil weight, AT-33PTG cartridge, Underwood/PS Audio GCPH preamp.

It replaced a Roksan Xerxes with Mk.II PSU, SME IV arm, AT-OC9 cartridge, EAR 834P De-Luxe preamp.

[DSJR]

So, to conclude this little episode. Am I right in saying that the KAB supply is simple to fit to the standard deck and involves little more than replacing one power feed with another and the Timestep by comparison needs the regulators replacing as well to give of its full effect?

I'd also very respectfully suggest that the standard headshell is fine for higher-compliance cartridges (don't judge a quality cartridge by its mass or compliance (unless it's a Decca ) as lower compliance designs "load" the vinyl much harder and the more marginal tracking ability will ultimately cause more record wear, especially at side end (I'm thinking SPU vs AT33PTG/OC9 here).. I'd also say that a couple of inches of headshell wire is the last thing you need to worry about when dealing with the standard arm, as the possible resonance problems when using moving coil cartridges would make a FAR bigger difference to the final sound. getting the arm re-wired in its entirety would be a far better bet IMO and not that costly...

Finally, is the mk5G arm-tube different to the mk2? It certainly costs more I think...

[Dave Cawley]

Oh, silly assumption! Why not just ask me first? It's a 10 minute job with no new regulators to fit. Perish the thought!! With only one wire to solder, the KAB has two, but does it matter?

Agree on the headshell and wire though!

Dave

[Hypnotoad]

Oh, silly assumption! Why not just ask me first? It's a 10 minute job with no new regulators to fit. Perish the thought!! With only one wire to solder, the KAB has two, but does it matter?

Agree on the headshell and wire though!

Dave

Have you ever tried powering the SL 1200 series using batteries, there was a report I read that someone used battery power to see if there was a sound difference between the stock PSU and battery power.

I think from memory they connected it without bypassing the internal regulator and found little if any difference.

Is it the regulator that causes all the problems, if so has anyone connected battery power bypassing the internal regulator?

Not that I would want a couple of car batteries in my lounge room but as an experiment.