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  1. #1091
    Join Date: Nov 2013

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    Not for me

    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
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  2. #1092
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    Hi Folks,
    Please Note the following:

    Maybe I should have highlighted this situation earlier when it was first brought to my attention by a user (Mike) who bought what he says was the last Bearing from Dave B.
    When he got his Bearing it was accompanied by a copy of my Instructions and stapled to the back of these was another sheet of advice.
    This advised the owner as follows; and I have copied the words from the email sent to me by Mike the user as follows:-----

    “They had the article from hifi pig stapled to the back of your instructions. I read through the lot. The hifi pig article makes crystal clear the need for filing back the solder wires to "barely nothing", he says you can't get them short enough with a nail clipper and he shorted out his on first go. So I guess I went overboard and didn't realise the damage I did until it was too late. Just blitzed it and was careless.” (sic)


    I have no idea who Hifi pig is, all I can say is that the advice given by this fool is absolutely and totally uninformed and so stupid as to be mind boggling from my point of view.

    Firstly, using a file, which by the very nature of the operation has to be almost parallel to the PCB copper tracks, is guaranteed to cut through other parts of the PCB.

    Secondly, filing down the solder blobs to "barely nothing" will very likely result in broken connections with the coil wires Does he not realize that I took all of this into account when I set the dimensions!!!

    Unfortunately Dave would not have known any better not being a very practical guy.

    When I designed the Bearing housing some 5 years ago now I did have to adjust the clearance height of the Bearing flange to ensure clearance for the worst-case solder blobs.
    I can only assume that this hifi pig fellow did not follow my detailed instructions in the first place or didn’t bother to read the Instructions.

    In fact on re-reading the email indicates that hifi pig may be some sort of
    magazine, does anyone know??

    If these spurious instructions come to the notice of other Bearing users who may think that they should modify the installation of their Bearing. Please do not!!

  3. #1093
    Join Date: Nov 2008

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    Chris



    Common sense isn't anymore!

  4. #1094
    Mike_New Guest

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    Hi Chris,
    I cannot reach the link from here it does not seem to be active, is it a review of my bearing in the magazine "hifi pig" ??
    Where are they??

  5. #1095
    Join Date: May 2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_New View Post
    Hi Chris,
    I cannot reach the link from here it does not seem to be active, is it a review of my bearing in the magazine "hifi pig" ??
    Where are they??
    It's an on-line only magazine, so they're not actually anywhere. I think some of the reviewers are members here at AoS, so hopefully they'll see this and comment/contact you.

    Here's the relevant bit cut and pasted from the review:

    'Now this is the important bit and the bit where I was always going to flounder. I could tell this as this section of the instructions was printed in heavy type in a “whoop whoop ignore at your peril” sort of way. On the underside of the circuit board you’ve got three groups of six wires which stick out of solder (see picture below) and you’ve got to snip these wires right back to avoid shorting once the new bearing is fitted. I used a set of nail clippers to do this and whilst I got the wire cut as short as possible this later proved not enough – in short I fitted the new bearing and ended up with a platter that didn’t turn due to the wires shorting with the new bearing. The trick here is that you MUST file each of the wires you’ve snipped right down so barely nothing protrudes – ignore this at your peril!'

    HTH.

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    Hi Joe,
    Thanks for the "relevant bit" I guess Dave B must have organised this.
    If only he or the reveiwer had contacted me we could have discovered what the problem was if any.
    Because the advice is rather radical.

  7. #1097
    Join Date: Nov 2008

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    Hi Mike

    The link might not work for you because of pathways through ISPs. We are on opposite ends of the planet.
    All I did was Google hifi pig and found the HiFi Pig website.
    Go to HiFi Reviews/Turntables Carts & Arms and scroll down the page.
    Chris



    Common sense isn't anymore!

  8. #1098
    Join Date: Jan 2008

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    Hi Mike,

    Stu (from Hi-Fi Pig) is a member here, and posts as 'stupinder', so you can contact him if necessary with any info you feel is relevant

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  9. #1099
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    Thanks Marco,
    I guess if he reads my initial post on the subject he will contact me, hopefully through this forum so we can all undestand
    where he was coming from.

  10. #1100
    Join Date: Aug 2014

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    I'm Andrew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisKemp View Post
    Not for me
    I saw your Youtube video, how is it going with the ETP?

    Andrew


    My System:

    Turntable - Linn Sondek LP12, Kore, Lingo 4, Roksan NIMA, AT33SA Cartridge , Roksan HDC-03 arm lead, Solid Base, Tiger Paw Vulcan, Denon DCD-A110 Cd player, Tag Mclaren DAC20 Digital to Analogue Converter, SPM Interconnects, Nordost Red Dawn Leif Speaker cable, Spendor S3/5R2 Target R1 speaker Stands, Atacama ECO 60/40 hifi racks, Sennheiser HD565 Ovation headphones

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