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  1. #141
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    Ive never done anything daft at work. However i do remember a funny incident when i was at the Woodworking company. I worked with a bloke that was quite frankly a pig when he was eating his lunch, the food used to swill around his gob in the same manner you washing would in a washing machine! One Dinner time id had enough of his slopping. I made my self a cuppa Tea on the work bench, placed the red hot Tea bag on the spoon & launched it towards him, the idea was for it to splatter on the double doors at the side of him to temp stop him making his slopping sound go away but my shot was much better than i thought, it landed right in his chops

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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    So, how do you shift stubborn dust bugs?
    Any recommendations for a good cleaning brush please?
    Is the MoFi one any good?
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  3. #143
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    Default tarkett and good brushes

    Since i am from Sweden and the Tarkett solution (mentioned earlier in this thread)that we use for cleaning vinyl floors is also from sweden.
    Its organic just like Lart du son.I use both and i cant see any difference at all.

    I mix tarkett just the same as Lart du son 10ml/500ml distilled water and use the Tarkett solution first and the L art du son as a second rinsing,as a third i use distilled water and 1ml/500ml ilfotol wetting agent,all these mixtures are pure organic.
    This way i keep the cost down ,the L´art du son is quite expensive.

    http://www.ilfordphoto.com/products/product.asp?n=44
    http://www.bjoorn.se/p/Rengoring/879...oclean-1-liter

    The bioclean cost about 10£ in sweden i guess it´s sold in UK as well,I think its just as good as L art du son and it will last a lifetime.

    The best brushes you can use are found in stores where they sell paint and brushes,the pads for straight corner
    This is what they look like.
    http://www.anza.se/sortiment/rollers...hjuldyna~p8249

    There are other makers as well,i guiess you have some in UK that look the same.
    You just change the pads when they are too dirty or just rinse them with som cleaning detergent and water and let them dry they last a long time.
    Much better than long hair vpi brushes and the likes.
    Just soak them in the solution,you are about to use.
    I use corks that you cand find on energy drink or sport bottles that you can pull up when you drink and then seal them by pushing it down.
    (Since i am Swedeish I don´t know how to explain this but i think you know what i mean)
    I have three of them for each of the three solutions i use.
    I just hold them against the pads and rub them up and down and whip off the exess in the sink.
    You dont have to doubt me i have done all of brushes mixed solutions that can be used.I have done it all during the last 30 years.
    I use a VPI Machine and a homemade ultrasound cleaner.

    Hope you can find all these things in UK or simular.
    I dont use IPA or simular alcohol stuff.And i never will.
    The stuff above is much better.
    Regards Per Karlsson sweden
    Sorry about no pictures i have to find out how to upload them.
    Look at the

  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    Any recommendations for a good cleaning brush please?
    Is the MoFi one any good?
    Yep I use 2.
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    A homemade ultrasonic cleaner sounds interesting, how was this made?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doom2112 View Post
    Since i am from Sweden and the Tarkett solution (mentioned earlier in this thread)that we use for cleaning vinyl floors is also from sweden.
    Its organic just like Lart du son.I use both and i cant see any difference at all.

    I mix tarkett just the same as Lart du son 10ml/500ml distilled water and use the Tarkett solution first and the L art du son as a second rinsing,as a third i use distilled water and 1ml/500ml ilfotol wetting agent,all these mixtures are pure organic.
    This way i keep the cost down ,the L´art du son is quite expensive.

    http://www.ilfordphoto.com/products/product.asp?n=44
    http://www.bjoorn.se/p/Rengoring/879...oclean-1-liter

    The bioclean cost about 10£ in sweden i guess it´s sold in UK as well,I think its just as good as L art du son and it will last a lifetime.

    The best brushes you can use are found in stores where they sell paint and brushes,the pads for straight corner
    This is what they look like.
    http://www.anza.se/sortiment/rollers...hjuldyna~p8249

    There are other makers as well,i guiess you have some in UK that look the same.
    You just change the pads when they are too dirty or just rinse them with som cleaning detergent and water and let them dry they last a long time.
    Much better than long hair vpi brushes and the likes.
    Just soak them in the solution,you are about to use.
    I use corks that you cand find on energy drink or sport bottles that you can pull up when you drink and then seal them by pushing it down.
    (Since i am Swedeish I don´t know how to explain this but i think you know what i mean)
    I have three of them for each of the three solutions i use.
    I just hold them against the pads and rub them up and down and whip off the exess in the sink.
    You dont have to doubt me i have done all of brushes mixed solutions that can be used.I have done it all during the last 30 years.
    I use a VPI Machine and a homemade ultrasound cleaner.

    Hope you can find all these things in UK or simular.
    I dont use IPA or simular alcohol stuff.And i never will.
    The stuff above is much better.
    Regards Per Karlsson sweden
    Sorry about no pictures i have to find out how to upload them.
    Look at the
    the bioclean is interesting. is it an enzyme cleaner?.I ve been using a us one but its expensive
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  7. #147
    Join Date: Sep 2012

    Location: sweden

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    I'm Per.

    Default Tarkett bioclean

    Yes the tarkett bioclean is biodegradeable (Hope thats right).
    Acts just like the Lárt du son.
    Smells not exactly like it but simular.
    I have used it as a first rinse and the Lart du son as second tos ave the expensive hifi cleaner.
    I cant tell any difference in sound between the two.
    The smell is some sort of soap in both cases.
    As i have said earlier the paintpads i use are very good much better than the expensive hifi stuff you can buy.

    This is what i can find for UK
    http://home.tarkett.co.uk/
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Solutioms-12.../dp/B002Q8HHZ0
    You will have to call them and ask for the bioclean product.

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    Looking around for a good method to clean LP records, I found this bellow text coming from the famous Library of Congress.
    Give a look, I think it worth's our attention and please let me know your opinion.
    The link bellow:
    http://www.loc.gov/preservation/care/record.html

    "Cleaning Audio Visual Materials

    Sound cleaning procedures for audio visual materials is different for each format. Cleaning of magnetic tape and of cylinders is a delicate undertaking and should be carried out only by a preservation specialist in these activities and is not covered here.




    1. Pour 2 mL of Tergitol™ 15-S-7 Surfactant into a 4 L container (glass, stainless steel type 304 or 316, fiberglass-reinforced polyester, polyethylene, or polypropylene) and fill with deionized water, which results in a 0.05% solution.

    2. Store the solution in a non-food refrigerator.

    3. Store the pure Tergitol™ in its original container (preferably under nitrogen) in a non-food refrigerator.

    4. Transfer only the amount of solution immediately needed to a spray bottle for manual cleaning or to the indicated container for mechanized cleaning.

    5. To clean discs by hand: Spray the solution onto the surface of the grooved or optical disc; wipe off solution and surface contaminants with a non-abrasive, lint-free lens cloth; thoroughly rinse with deionized water; dry the disc with a dry, clean, nonabrasive, lint-free lens cloth.

    5. To use the solution in a mechanized cleaner: Put just enough solution into the cleaner reservoir so that fresh solution is used each day or remove the solution every day and store in a non-food refrigerator; thoroughly rinse disc with deionized water (do not allow any cleaner solution to remain on disc); dry the disc with a dry, clean, nonabrasive, lint-free lens cloth.

    Caution: Only persons trained in the safe handling and disposal of chemicals and hazardous wastes should prepare and use the Record Cleaning Solution. Personal protective equipment (PPE) should be worn during the preparation and use of the cleaning solution.

    Safety Data Sheets (Material Safety Data Sheets) for Tergitol™ and for the Record Cleaning Solution. Because the Record Cleaning Solution contains less than 1% of Tergitol™, it does not have to be listed on the data sheet.

    MSDS for Library of Congress Record Cleaning Solution [PDF: 65 KB / 4 p.]
    DOW Surfactants: Tergitol™ 15-S Series External Link

    Disclaimer:
    The Library of Congress shares this information as a public service. The effectiveness of this cleaning solution has not been compared to commercial products and no guarantee is implied or intended that it will meet the needs of all users. Institutions or individuals who prepare or use the solution do so at their own risk. The Library of Congress will not be liable for any injury to any person, animal, or ecosystem, or for damage to any item resulting from the use of any of the materials, chemicals, or procedures described here".

  9. #149
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    Location: Athens-Greece

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    I'm George.

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    Looking around for a good method to clean LP records, I found this bellow link,the famous Library of Congress.
    Give a look, I think it worth's our attention and please let me know your opinion.
    The link:
    http://www.loc.gov/preservation/care/record.html

  10. #150
    Join Date: Sep 2012

    Location: sweden

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    I'm Per.

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    The problem is to find Tergitol™ 15-S-7 i have found it in USA but not in europe.
    Mabye someone else can find it.

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