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  1. #1041
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Lol - indeed… I fear that NK and DC have too much of a love affair going on for that to happen!

    Marco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    No worries. I just wondered what mechanism might be perceived for causing the apparent increase in flutter… I still need to buy the mag, but for those who’ve read it, does it say what PSU was used on the Techy for the review?

    If it was a Timestep one, those can be prone to causing (even audible) wow, which is something I noticed immediately when comparing mine (when I had one) against a Paul Hynes SR3 that Hugo (Shuggie) was using at the time.

    Marco.
    I dont have my copy with me at the mo but I'm almost certain it was a Timestep mentioned.

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    Just got in and checked the article - Defo Timestep psu.

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    If a Timestep PSU was used for the review I wonder where the 0V connection was made?!!@#%??&*^$#
    This could account for the figures. Cawley still refuses to accept that he is wrong in the location of the 0V wire, so everyone who gets one of these things is advised to make an incorrect connection to the 0V common rail, which could IMO make a difference to wow and backgroung noise.
    Also many comments on this forum over the years have shown that running in the Bearing for about 20-30 hours improves the sonics (and maybe other parameters).
    Probably DB supplied a "virgin" Bearing for the review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieGong View Post
    Just got in and checked the article - Defo Timestep psu.
    Hmmm….

    It’ll be interesting to see what the results are next time with their Technics T/T, when an MN ETP platter is submitted for testing, along with a Longdog Audio PSU. I suspect that the ‘flutter’ will fly away!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    No worries. I just wondered what mechanism might be perceived for causing the apparent increase in flutter… I still need to buy the mag, but for those who’ve read it, does it say what PSU was used on the Techy for the review?

    If it was a Timestep one, those can be prone to causing (even audible) wow, which is something I noticed immediately when comparing mine (when I had one) against a Paul Hynes SR3 that Hugo (Shuggie) was using at the time.

    Marco.
    Marco,
    When you noticed the "wow" where did you have the 0Volt connection? The Time Step PS is just your average voltage regulator with the usual components, however it should not actually degrade the sonics unless it has been incorrectly connected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_New View Post
    Marco,
    When you noticed the "wow" where did you have the 0Volt connection?
    It would’ve been wherever DC put it, as he fitted the PSU

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    That probably explains your observations!!!!

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    Indeed… And where do you think the 0Volt connection was on the T/T used for the review?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  10. #1050
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    It could be any ones guess, but it was most probably in the wrong place.

    Who supplied the SL for the review and who installed the bearing, was it run in for the generally
    accepted 30hours.

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