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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensimilia View Post
    The Caiman has a flat frequency response from 10Hz to 20KHz.
    If you are looking for something that has a modified response with say a boosted bass and/or treble, then the Caiman would not be of any use to you.
    aaaahhhh ... is that what the little graph in thee review in hfw(?) means?
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    That's not a Caiman, but yep. As their details reveal, the TC-7520 goes down to 2Hz at -1dB. If that is considered bass shy, then.....

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    Ha, I'm quite chugged I can now understand those graphs!
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    The Caiman has the same printed circuit board as the stock 7520, I believe, but has key components replaced with better and more expensive alternatives.

    What is the extra cost of those better components?

    If it is not great it would surely be better to make the Caiman the standard production model.
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    A bit confused by the response, the Beresford 7510 isn't intended for bass boost either is it?
    Ah just read that again, so the Beresford 7520 has a lower frequency response than the Caiman? and if so, why

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveyboy View Post
    A bit confused by the response, the Beresford 7510 isn't intended for bass boost either is it?
    Ah just read that again, so the Beresford 7520 has a lower frequency response than the Caiman? and if so, why
    The human hearing is responsive to audio from 16Hz to 20KHz they tell us. All my DACs are flat within the human hearing response.

    My own test equipment only goes down to 10Hz, so I can say what I measured. HIFI World has equipment that goes down lower than mine, so they quote 2Hz at -1dB for the TC-7510.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Labarum View Post
    If it is not great it would surely be better to make the Caiman the standard production model.
    Why? Not everyone can afford even the TC-7510, let alone the Caiman costing twice that amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensimilia View Post
    The human hearing is responsive to audio from 16Hz to 20KHz they tell us.
    Wish mine was. I am about 50dB down at 8Khz in the left ear.

    I would settle for a 3dB point of 15KHz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensimilia View Post
    Why? Not everyone can afford even the TC-7510, let alone the Caiman costing twice that amount.
    I should have been clearer. Let the 7510 be, but if the 7520 were to have the better components how much would it add to to retail price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveyboy View Post
    How does the Caiman compare to the Beresford 7510 in terms of bass? I read on another forum that it was their opinion that the Caiman was brilliant in many respects but was a little bass shy?
    Certainly not bass shy here

    BTW some things may measure the same but they don't sound the same, something I've found when messing about with diy, measure it first to make sure everythings ok and then for the last test use the ears
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