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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    I find the weights on the Michell Orbe mesmerising. You can sit there and watch it for hours.
    Actually, it's the Gyrodec that has the spinning weights - the Orbe's platter is solid. I know this as my wife cannot be in the same room as my Gyro SE when it's spinning otherwise she starts to feel sick very quickly.

    I'm tempted to get her to stump up for an Orbe platter/bearing upgrade but personally, like you, I love the spinning weights!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beobloke View Post
    Actually, it's the Gyrodec that has the spinning weights - the Orbe's platter is solid. I know this as my wife cannot be in the same room as my Gyro SE when it's spinning otherwise she starts to feel sick very quickly.

    I'm tempted to get her to stump up for an Orbe platter/bearing upgrade but personally, like you, I love the spinning weights!

    Yes and the fact it sounds pretty darn good too.......
    System; Michell Gyrodec SE/ Orbe Clamp/ Gert Pedersen armboard mod/ HR PSU/ SME V / J7 Tonearm cable/Ortofon Cadenza Black// Jez Arkless Turbo nutter B------ /Trichord Dino+

    Amplification and loudspeaker set up is at the moment being split into two groups, comprising the following;


    1. Same sources as above; SONY TAF-770ES/SONY CDP761E/Cable Talk 3.1 loudspeakercable/ Harbeth Compact7ES2/ Stands

    2. Virtue Audio Sensation M451battery PSU, ClarityCaps upgrade/ Sensation M901/Russian PIO caps with Teflon bypass caps upgrade/ JT Dynamic PSU with various tweaks/ Connex Audio 5N Litz loudspeaker cable, Impulse H6 Loudspeakers.




















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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
    Yes and the fact it sounds pretty darn good too.......

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    That is Pishanto in a naked ie; non musical form a result of which which would not be allowed anywhere in my music room.
    System; Michell Gyrodec SE/ Orbe Clamp/ Gert Pedersen armboard mod/ HR PSU/ SME V / J7 Tonearm cable/Ortofon Cadenza Black// Jez Arkless Turbo nutter B------ /Trichord Dino+

    Amplification and loudspeaker set up is at the moment being split into two groups, comprising the following;


    1. Same sources as above; SONY TAF-770ES/SONY CDP761E/Cable Talk 3.1 loudspeakercable/ Harbeth Compact7ES2/ Stands

    2. Virtue Audio Sensation M451battery PSU, ClarityCaps upgrade/ Sensation M901/Russian PIO caps with Teflon bypass caps upgrade/ JT Dynamic PSU with various tweaks/ Connex Audio 5N Litz loudspeaker cable, Impulse H6 Loudspeakers.




















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    Besides my Gyro is better looking and most certainly better sounding.
    System; Michell Gyrodec SE/ Orbe Clamp/ Gert Pedersen armboard mod/ HR PSU/ SME V / J7 Tonearm cable/Ortofon Cadenza Black// Jez Arkless Turbo nutter B------ /Trichord Dino+

    Amplification and loudspeaker set up is at the moment being split into two groups, comprising the following;


    1. Same sources as above; SONY TAF-770ES/SONY CDP761E/Cable Talk 3.1 loudspeakercable/ Harbeth Compact7ES2/ Stands

    2. Virtue Audio Sensation M451battery PSU, ClarityCaps upgrade/ Sensation M901/Russian PIO caps with Teflon bypass caps upgrade/ JT Dynamic PSU with various tweaks/ Connex Audio 5N Litz loudspeaker cable, Impulse H6 Loudspeakers.




















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    I love my Gyro but personally I'd swap it for Kylie without a moment's hesitation...

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    Heard a fully modded Techie at the weekend, also heard a couple of 401's, one with linear tracking arm and another with Michell technoarm.

    To me (and my ears) the Techie was a fair bit behind in involvement, realism and that "x factor" I heard with the 401's..
    T'was good, especially in terms of soundstage but didn't have the magic I heard from the 401's.

    Personally, I've just got a Gyro SE with the full Orbe upgrades, including double spider, but not set her up yet.
    Looking fwd to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Heard a fully modded Techie at the weekend, also heard a couple of 401's, one with linear tracking arm and another with Michell technoarm.

    To me (and my ears) the Techie was a fair bit behind in involvement, realism and that "x factor" I heard with the 401's..
    T'was good, especially in terms of soundstage but didn't have the magic I heard from the 401's.

    Personally, I've just got a Gyro SE with the full Orbe upgrades, including double spider, but not set her up yet.
    Looking fwd to that.
    It could be any one or a combination of things you were hearing with the Technics Gaz.
    It could be a lack of resonance distortion, after all the deck in question does have a MN bearing, MN platter, LDA offboard PSU etc.
    There were even SLIC cables in the equation.
    I wouldn't judge anything by the results you hear in the room at Owston, although it is possible to get a reasonable idea of what's going on - the room is a known problem in itself.

    Enjoy the Gyro - they're good decks.
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    Is it Brooksy's Techy you're referring to, Gaz? If so, I can totally understand where you're coming from, especially if it was fitted with his usual SME/Ortofron Kontrapunkt combo, which for me although decent enough, just doesn't produce musical synergy.

    Although let's not forget that a well-sorted 401, in a quality plinth, is a hard act to beat... However, in the past when I've taken my Techy to Owston (even in a much less 'fettled' state than it is now), it had no problem competing with an assortment of Garrards.

    I must make the effort to attend the next Owston, and bring the Techy with me, as it would be interesting to see how it fairs these days against some of the top-notch T/Ts that folk bring to the event. It's interesting too, that the Slics didn't appear to act as the 'universal panacea' that some make out, as I'm not sensing much love there...

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    Just ordered my last upgrade in 2014, according to my wife, that is; the Oyaide MJ-12 + Oyaide BR-ONE. I already have a Rek-o-Kut weight (440g) and I think it would work great with the MJ-12. As I understand the Oyaide weight is also 440g. The ETP is way too expensive for me and I hope that the MJ-12/ BR-ONE is as great as people say it is. And I think it looks absolutely fantastic on the Technics. In 1-2 weeks I will know

    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
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    Speaker: Klipsch RP280f
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