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  1. #1121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensimilia View Post
    I updated the link for those of you who are not on a European recognized domain when accessing my sites.
    Hi Stan,

    Strange but I did not have any probs until the last few days so could it be a mod to far!

    Regards

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covenant View Post
    we both know the WM8716 makes a difference too and most on here still have the PCM1716 fitted.

    Because 99% of us are too scared to attempt it!
    Hi Jerry and Gary,
    I wonder if Tirna would do it for us (me included) as a sub-con job?
    Cheers,
    DaveK.

    My System:
    Power: Belkin PF40, Custom.hifi.cables Hydra and DC PSUs.
    Sources: Self built HTPC with Xonar ST sound card, NAD T585 multi disc player, Sony BDP-S350, Squeezebox Touch, Techncs SL1210 (mod'd) + Nagaoka MP30, Thomson Sky HD box.
    Amps etc.: 2 x Mini-T amps, MF-X10D Valve buffer clone, StanDAC 7520/Caiman (mod'd).
    Speakers: Mission 774s with added super tweeters
    Cables: best I can afford and likely to change except Homar's RF attenuated co-ax's and Mark Grant USB and HDMI cables. I also like silver i/cs and speaker cable.

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    Its worth asking them but I still fancy the Caiman as Stan will have sprinkled magic fairy dust on it.
    Jerry
    Hifi: IPL transmission line floorstanding speakers, Squeezebox Touch, Denafrips Ares 11 DAC, DCB1 Pre-amplifier, Croft Series 7 power amp.
    Custom Hifi cables HA10SE headphone amplifier and Hifiman HE-400 headphones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveC View Post
    Hi Jerry and Gary,
    I wonder if Tirna would do it for us (me included) as a sub-con job?
    Cheers,
    Dave,
    You do the honours?
    Ok with not having it on Betamax nowadays

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    Quote Originally Posted by covenant
    Its worth asking them but I still fancy the Caiman as Stan will have sprinkled magic fairy dust on it.
    All right for them as can afford it - Ive only just bought my 7520 !! (sans fairy dust but avec new PSU )

    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Dave,
    You do the honours?
    I thought that might be the response - I almost volunteered !
    Daft question I know, but what exactly is involved - what do I ask them to do? -- remove what and replace with WM8716?
    Cheers,
    DaveK.

    My System:
    Power: Belkin PF40, Custom.hifi.cables Hydra and DC PSUs.
    Sources: Self built HTPC with Xonar ST sound card, NAD T585 multi disc player, Sony BDP-S350, Squeezebox Touch, Techncs SL1210 (mod'd) + Nagaoka MP30, Thomson Sky HD box.
    Amps etc.: 2 x Mini-T amps, MF-X10D Valve buffer clone, StanDAC 7520/Caiman (mod'd).
    Speakers: Mission 774s with added super tweeters
    Cables: best I can afford and likely to change except Homar's RF attenuated co-ax's and Mark Grant USB and HDMI cables. I also like silver i/cs and speaker cable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covenant View Post
    but I still fancy the Caiman as Stan will have sprinkled magic fairy dust on it.
    You mean Caiman specific mods that aren't of much or any benefit to the PCM1716 based TC-7520?
    Well, I was listening to some previously hidden instruments in the upper treble region and wondered how come I didn't notice those before. Then it dawned on me that the WM8716 has an extra 10 dB of SNR, which is perhaps why I couldn't pick it out clearly enough before. Mind you, I had to use headphones to notice them. My speakers couldn't pick them up amongst all the ambient noise. The one side effect is that I can now also hear SNR problems that are embedded in some recordings.

    Stan

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    This is the kind of sound I'm looking for!

    Are there any recommended modifications to the circuitry besides swapping out the WM8716 directly?

    As a quick update, I was listening to an acoustic recording by a friend over the weekend and decided to give the THS4032 a spin. Popped it into the line socket, with the 4562NA still in the HPA stage.
    The sound hasn't improved significantly, but there is a better sense of detail coming through. On busy pieces it sounds somewhat muddy, relatively hard to pick out instruments and individual components of the music, though I expect it's still running in.
    Tom
    AKG K701, TC-7520 HPA/DAC, Yamaha RX-V396RDS, Some awful speakers

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    As a quick update, I was listening to an acoustic recording by a friend over the weekend and decided to give the THS4032 a spin. Popped it into the line socket, with the 4562NA still in the HPA stage.
    The sound hasn't improved significantly, but there is a better sense of detail coming through. On busy pieces it sounds somewhat muddy, relatively hard to pick out instruments and individual components of the music, though I expect it's still running in.[/QUOTE]


    Maybe because you are using some awful speakers? I dont experience muddy sounds with the 4032-quite the opposite.
    Jerry
    Hifi: IPL transmission line floorstanding speakers, Squeezebox Touch, Denafrips Ares 11 DAC, DCB1 Pre-amplifier, Croft Series 7 power amp.
    Custom Hifi cables HA10SE headphone amplifier and Hifiman HE-400 headphones.
    AV system: LG 55B7, Denon AVR -x2300w receiver, Quad 12L (front) 11c Centre and 11L rear . Velodyne DD15 subwoofer.

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    The THS4032 is best suited for use via the DAC's variable output to a power amp. An integrated amp with all its extra capacitive stages would put a damper on the THS4032 low frequency response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensimilia View Post
    You mean Caiman specific mods that aren't of much or any benefit to the PCM1716 based TC-7520?
    Well, I was listening to some previously hidden instruments in the upper treble region and wondered how come I didn't notice those before. Then it dawned on me that the WM8716 has an extra 10 dB of SNR, which is perhaps why I couldn't pick it out clearly enough before. Mind you, I had to use headphones to notice them. My speakers couldn't pick them up amongst all the ambient noise. The one side effect is that I can now also hear SNR problems that are embedded in some recordings.

    Stan
    I listen to a lot of internet radio (that circuit which improves low bitrate transmissions deserves an award)-do you think it may sound worse because of background noise?
    Just to be clear is there anything different about the Caiman other than the following:
    1. Improved dac chipset
    2. 4562 op-amps to line and headphone
    3. MLC5/6 removed.
    4. Improved power supply (at a later date)
    Jerry
    Hifi: IPL transmission line floorstanding speakers, Squeezebox Touch, Denafrips Ares 11 DAC, DCB1 Pre-amplifier, Croft Series 7 power amp.
    Custom Hifi cables HA10SE headphone amplifier and Hifiman HE-400 headphones.
    AV system: LG 55B7, Denon AVR -x2300w receiver, Quad 12L (front) 11c Centre and 11L rear . Velodyne DD15 subwoofer.

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