Just pulled the trigger on one of these babies....

[CageyH]

Cool. Thanks.
It will probably come down to who is willing to do the best deal for me at the end of April, (may be sooner).
If I go for a Mk2 funk, it will have to be a plain one.
I don't think there is going to be a massive difference between them if I am perfectly honest. I doubt I will ever get to hear them all, so it will be a case of paying my money, and taking my pick. I am still hoping a 2nd hand Mk1 turns up at a bargain price. I think the Mk1 Funk may be discontinued soon now that the Mk2 is around. So there may be an opportunity to get a deal from someone wanting to shift "old" stock.

I looked at getting a platter machined up at my friendly machine shop, strictly as a one off, but they are struggling for capacity for the foreseeable future, so I have resigned myself to buying one. It didn't look too difficult. The only interesting thing was going yo be getting the bearing on a CMM to get an accurate profile of the taper.

[Marco]

I don't think there is going to be a massive difference between them if I am perfectly honest.

Having compared them both the other day, side-by-side in the same system (with having Darren's Techy here to play with), I can tell you for a fact that there isn't a massive difference between them

Marco.

[chris@panteg]

Oh god, just a flippant post and still the nonsense continues. Take the latest post - 'isn't it the harmonics that are greatly improved? Even though the ear can't hear that high, but you'll still notice an improvement." Now come on. That statement deserves some analysis. A suggestion that an extended frequecy response beyond the range of human hearing (and remember that men over 40 have a greatly reduced frequency response, despite what they might imagine or what their hifi dealers might tell them) improves harmonics. Well, whether any higher harmonics of fundamental tones are present is going to be a function of the system that produced the fundamental tones. Yes, if we are talking about a stringed instrument, there will be a series of harmonics present in the string's vibrations, but remember that the fall away of the volume of the higher harmonics is extremely rapid so the higher harmonics if present at all will be increasingly low in volume. Whether any of these increasingly small high frequency sounds have been captured will be a function of the transducers that captured the original sound, namely the microphones, and the resoution of the original capture matrial, eg the magnetic master tape. Electronc music producing pure tones won't generate harmonics in and of itself, unless they are part of the tone that is programmed to be produced. And then to cap it all the statment "Even though the ear can't hear that high" and the grand non sequitur "but you'll still notice an improvement". Quite how exactly? With a some special audiophile auditory organ that the rest of the population don't have? With the third eye? Because you've read in a hifi mag or a forum that you should be able to detect some difference?

Blimey, a few paragraphs wouldn't go amiss either.

If its nonsense then perhaps I failed to make my point but its something I put to someone who I regard and respect very highly!

What are the main benefits of such an extended frequency range such as the EPC100 mm cartridge? It was a couple of years back now but Richard Peachey said something along the lines of greater or extended harmonics?

Can anyone enlighten me as to whether this so?

[Marco]

Mr Pimlico has been given a week's holiday, in order to learn some manners.

Marco.

[chris@panteg]

I'm reasonably thick skinned Marco, if what I said was nonsense or the musings of a daftee I can take it you know

[Marco]

I know that, Chris. However, as you also know, that's not how we address each other here on a friendly forum like AoS, least of all on thread I've started about a new toy I'm getting!

I simply won't tolerate that pish.

Marco.

[YNWaN]

With such an extended frequency responce, isn't it the harmonics that are greatly improved? Even though the ear can't hear that high, but you'll still notice an improvement.

That's the idea, or part of it anyway. But the naysayers would say that vinyl simply cannot support the extended high frequency information required to allow it to happen.

MY position is that I understand and accept what the anti supertweeter commentators have to say - what they write is justifiable and makes sense. However, for whatever reason, I have found a supertweeter to make a genuinely worthwhile improvement - the reasons for which deserve further investigation.

[synsei]

I don't know what the frequency response is of the Coles supertweeters in my DM2's however I sure as heck detected when one of them had failed, and I have 51 year old ears

[CageyH]

To get the full benefit, I assume you also need to make sure that the phono stage and amplifiers don't clip the output, and can support these frequencies?

[Marco]

MY position is that I understand and accept what the anti supertweeter commentators have to say - what they write is justifiable and makes sense. However, for whatever reason, I have found a supertweeter to make a genuinely worthwhile improvement - the reasons for which deserve further investigation.

...but in the meantime, you're perfectly happy trusting your ears telling you that there is a genuinely worthwhile improvement, so the naysayers can bleat away until the cows come home, meanwhile you're just enjoying the music!

And dat's exactly how it should be brovva!



Marco.