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    How about a more cost effective bearing upgrade? Apply some value engineering into reducing size and weight and concentrate on the actual bearing interface. Something that sold for £150 -£200 would have a much bigger market. Most people are put off buying Mike's excellent product as it costs far more than they paid for the SL1200 in the first place. I think 'development cost' would have to go down to labour off love though but maybe a sounder commercial proposition in the long run. BTW I read that future Funk platter mods may be based around a dedicated ruby bearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audioman View Post
    How about a more cost effective bearing upgrade? Apply some value engineering into reducing size and weight and concentrate on the actual bearing interface. Something that sold for £150 -£200 would have a much bigger market. Most people are put off buying Mike's excellent product as it costs far more than they paid for the SL1200 in the first place. I think 'development cost' would have to go down to labour off love though but maybe a sounder commercial proposition in the long run. BTW I read that future Funk platter mods may be based around a dedicated ruby bearing.

    Paul.
    It's not the development costs which are the issue but the quality of materials and very close engineering tolerances required during manufacture, couple that with low volume production runs and you have your answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by synsei View Post
    It's not the development costs which are the issue but the quality of materials and very close engineering tolerances required during manufacture, couple that with low volume production runs and you have your answer.
    Those underlined words are the crux of the problem. It has to be a higher volume more cost effective exercise. There is certainly a gap in the market between Timestep modified bearing and current MN product. It needs some research to establish the potential market for such a product, given that the vast majority of Technics owners will be happy with the standard product.

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    "P.S Mike, I'm waiting on a bearing base plate from David, as it's the final piece in the jigsaw for me. Does he have the required drawings, in order to get them produced in the UK? "
    Hi Marco,
    Dave did ask me for a drawing of the Bearing Base Plate last year and I sent him the PDF.
    Then he asked me about six weeks ago and I am pretty sure I sent him another copy.
    I will email him to find out the situation. I have not heard from him for some time.

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    Cheers, Mike. David did say that he would have one ready for me in time for the bake-off he's holding at his place on the 19th of April, see here: http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...262#post534262

    ...therefore, I'm just making sure that will be the case

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    19th April, NATIONAL RECORD STORE DAY, RESULT!

    what a co-incidence eh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by synsei View Post
    It's not the development costs which are the issue but the quality of materials and very close engineering tolerances required during manufacture, couple that with low volume production runs and you have your answer.
    I think Dave's comment re above says it all. We have talked about this many times. It just cannot be done with the low volumes.
    If Rolex only sold even 200 watches a year they would cost ten times more than they do!!

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    Is there a price for the part yet?
    Kevin

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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    Is there a price for the part yet?
    The bearing base plate are a simple piece of metal with holes in, they won't cost much, I have 4 being made.

    As regards "The Mike New Precision Technics Bearing" which transforms the Technics into a turntable of the very highest order
    I have 3 left in stock, if anyone is thinking about one but maybe the cost is prohibitive please pm for a special offer.

    I will be taking the bearings to Brighton at the weekend so visit my room also for a one time only deal (sound like QVC!)

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    (sound like QVC!)
    Not seen or heard one of those before , nearest I got was a JVC
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