Like Naim it seems they have diluted their "house sound" and are all the better for it !
An old vs new Brio test would be interesting... Its a shame someone local cant bring 'round a little NVA so that old chestnut can be finally put to bed.
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Like Naim it seems they have diluted their "house sound" and are all the better for it !
An old vs new Brio test would be interesting... Its a shame someone local cant bring 'round a little NVA so that old chestnut can be finally put to bed.
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Yeah Rega are a bit guilty of putting their idea of good sound into things rather than trying to achieve transparency. Rega Planet MK1 is a good example of this.
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Now this is extremely interesting. I'm not that much of a cable-believer (certainly couldn't stomach spending a fortune on them put it that way) but still appreciate there's a balance to be struck within any system. In this case it's clear something wasn't quite right with the Apollo-R/<insert amp here> combination. Purely 1. By a chap on PFM suggesting it and 2. Me then thinking 'of course - I've got some of this in the drawer' inserting some Klotz cable (the stuff Rega use) has brought about a noticable, and very worthwhile improvement in sonics. There's no extra detail/more convincing musicality but it's now a lot better balanced. The spit from the top end has lessened - at points it was unlistenable before - and now it's a much more convincing set-up.
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Are we talking about interconnects here Richard . Changing the mains cable to Regas own used in its high end gear can also be beneficial .
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Ah! Sorry just re-read my post and it did appear a bit vague but yes, the Klotz is i/c cable. It's basically guitar amp cable, made into an interconnect and is the same stuff Rega use for the their Couple stuff. I just soldered up a few sets ages ago (still amazed it works knowing my soldering skills!) and it sounds fine.Originally Posted by brian2957
Richard.
Round & round bits: LP12/Cirkus/Kore/Herc II/Roksan Nima/Hana EL
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You have PM Richard .
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I've had my Brio-R and DAC for almost 2 years now and haven't really heard anything which would make me want to part with it yet.
If someone had told me I'd end up with a one make system 2 years ago I'd have laughed in their face as I always thought this was a bit lacking in imagination so it still surprises me when I now look at the stack of Rega which now occupies the listening room. I know that some have ripped the piss out of my decision but I stopped caring as it just does what it does and I enjoy it almost every day!
It all started for me when I got RS3 speakers, the amp just seemed to sound best with them and then everytime I added another Rega bit it just kind of kept giving more musical enjoyment. The best sounding IC I found with it was the klotz stuff. Its definitely got a house sound though, there's no denying that but as it happens its one that suits me and its quite budget friendly too. I'd also say that the brio-r is actually 2 amps in one, turn that dial past 10oclock and it becomes a rather different beast, a bit Jekyl and Hyde but in a thoroughly enjoyable way I find.
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Just wona pair of 2010's myself, so am hoping I like them....not the I version but a good price and in good nick with all their bits and packing.
Edit...the guy just sent me a message saying they only have 20 hrs on them from new...think I've scored.
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Sorry, got to ask - in comparison with what? The products that replaced these sounded thinner toned to me, or could that be more neutral?It sounds as though they've sorted out the voicing of their amps... I've owned both clamshell Mira & Elicit and would rank them both equally as the most coloured amps I've ever owned.
Really, really bad
I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?
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Do you really want me to list ever amplifier I've ever owned ? It would be a long list...Sorry, got to ask - in comparison with what? The products that replaced these sounded thinner toned to me, or could that be more neutral?
I recall finding the midrange especially "syrupy" - I can only liken it to what some early Luxmans do to the sound. It completely spoilt my enjoyment of the music so I sold them both on sharpish [about 2 years inbetween owning each one, thought I'd "give them another go"]
Edit: this was in the context of a Sony ES cd player / Rega Ela system.
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