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    I'm hoping to give this combo a spin shortly once I have sorted a suitable armboard ~





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    Nice one.

    Looks very interesting, Roger - keep us posted!

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    Oh! - nice, looks like a modern (Jelco) version of the original Ortofon RS212.
    Barry

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry.d.hunt View Post
    Oh! - nice, looks like a modern (Jelco) version of the original Ortofon RS212.
    Half a Ceeegarrr there bdh ~ It is an Ortofon RS-212 , I just polish it a lot !

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    They don't arf fetch a lot of dosh these days. Hope you like it

    A quickie regarding the N21 stylus... Mine has a much smaller (but still chunky) cantilever compared to the N3D original (with diamond yanked out...). is this the case with anyone else who has the N21?
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    I was planning on a spare N21D however they seem to be $21.95 + $30 + Shipping + approx 20% duties /fees etc etc , kinda adds up

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMooN View Post
    I was planning on a spare N21D however they seem to be $21.95 + $30 + Shipping + approx 20% duties /fees etc etc , kinda adds up

    hi.. have quite a few vintage nos 'finetone' n21d i would let them go for £17 inc p/p
    pm if your interested

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMooN View Post
    Half a Ceeegarrr there bdh ~ It is an Ortofon RS-212 , I just polish it a lot !
    Goodness, I've never seen one looking that good before! Are you sponsored by Duraglit?
    Barry

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    i refitted the m3d back into my tonearm tonight and lost a few hours setting / adjusting and generally playing about..

    i had replaced it with a vintage dynavector 30a, it was a close thing, the dynavector tracked a little better, the m3d a little more bolder/fuller sounding with just a little less detail..

    the set up is fidelity research fr64s sw,( with the s/steel arm tube) thorens 124 and an 18 gram headshell.. some may have heard it at the wigwam show
    this year it sounded very well in my veiw..

    i was wondering how 'mass' affected the performance of the m3d
    i had used the cart with a 2p ( around 7 grams) blue tacked to the headshell, with no real improvement

    any way i found a 3" length of 5/16 stud, it weighed in at 30 grams i blue tacked it above the arm tube lengthways, i just managed to balance it...

    i was so shocked by the improvent in performance i took it off and tried it without and then replaced it again..
    the speed, transients and fine detail all showed real improvements..

    this cartridge was not designed for todays tonearms...it really needs holding steady.. but what a sound, a genuine improvement..

    i think a very high mass diy tonearm is in the pipeline..

    steve
    Last edited by SPS; 07-07-2009 at 21:56.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPS View Post
    i think a very high mass diy tonearm is in the pipeline..

    steve
    Most Interesting Steve as I hope to borrow a friends TD124 for my own dabbling

    Length of Lead Pipe next then !
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