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  1. #71
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    LOL. Master and pupil at work - doncha just love it!

    Mikey,

    Rewinding back past the electonics for beginners class, fascinating as it is... What bloody sound do you like so I can recommend a bloody cartridge. I won't bloody ask you again!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    LOL. Master and pupil at work - doncha just love it!

    Mikey,

    Rewinding back past the electonics for beginners class, fascinating as it is... What bloody sound do you like so I can recommend a bloody cartridge. I won't bloody ask you again!

    Marco.
    I bloody answered you several bloody posts ago. Bloody muppet!

    Scroll up a bit!

    Shian7
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    Hahahaha... I didn't bloody scroll down far enough on page 6 and missed your last bloody post! I'm bloody blind

    Well, it depends on which phono stage I settle on, but considering present budget constraints I expect to be looking in the MM playground for now.

    Sound wise - clean, detailed (but not too 'in yer face'), tight bass - my speakers can be a bit 'full' sounding thanks to twin quarter wave pipes, so nothing to exacerbate that tendency.
    Remind me again of the maximum budget you have available for the cartridge, now that Richard appears to have saved you some money by going down the D.I.Y route for the phono stage. Suitable recommendations will then follow

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Let's say, hmmmm...... £150(ish). Oh, and it has to work well in a Hadcock GH228 (earlyish one with aluminium armtube).



    P.S. Why do people bid like this? :

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Denon-DL-160-H...QQcmdZViewItem

    You can buy a brand new one for less than £80!
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    Shian7
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    - Choshu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shian7 View Post

    P.S. Why do people bid like this? :

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Denon-DL-160-H...QQcmdZViewItem

    You can buy a brand new one for less than £80!
    A lot of people have no idea of the value of what they are bidding on and assume it must be a bargain if it's on ebay. I've also seen cases where identical items from the same seller have been available as either auction or "buy it now" on seperate listings and the auction item has gone for a higher price!
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    Yes Kevin!... I guess there's still lots of mileage in the old saying 'There's one born every minute'!

    Strange but true.

    Shian7
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    Hmmm...... I've found a Goldring 2500 for a pretty attractive price. I liked the 1024 I used a couple of years ago, I wonder how they compare?

    Decision, desisions...

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    broken again - still it's there:
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    - Choshu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shian7 View Post
    Let's say, hmmmm...... £150(ish). Oh, and it has to work well in a Hadcock GH228 (earlyish one with aluminium armtube).
    Mike,

    Could you go to one of these:

    http://www.audiocubes2.com/category/...b93456ce01d1d7

    They are extraordinarily good for the money, and as good as anything up to £1000! It's the usual 'the best stuff goes to the non-UK market' scenario. The AT-33PTG is a veritable giant-killer, and it has the balance of sonic virtues you're looking for. It is also far better than an OC-9!

    Another option is the Denon DL-110, which is a high-output model you can use straight into a MM stage. It has a higher compliance than the DL-103, which I would normally recommend, but which wouldn't really suit the relatively low-mass of the Hadcock.

    Otherwise, any of the Clearaudio MMs in your price range would be good, or the new Ortofon or Goldring MMs, or perhaps some of the Grados - most of these are within your budget.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Hmmm...

    Interesting choice, and a bit of a new one to me.

    Too late though, I've already ordered a Goldring 2500 (I got bored waiting ).

    Yes I'm going out on a limb here but I think it's more or less impossible to audition one first in the deck/arm combination I'm going to be using for the foreseeable future.
    Shian7
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    kudakutemo

    ari mizu-no tsuki

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    LOL. Nice one - I hope it works out

    And that would be the SL-120, I presume?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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