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    You're absolutely right, David.

    The difference with here is that we don't have to, or choose to, 'toe the party line'. Neither Steve Toy, nor I, or any of the management team owe any loyalties to anyone in the industry or otherwise.

    In short, we have no vested interests on AOS. Therefore, everything and everyone is open to scrutiny, so we tell it as we see it honestly and with no holds barred… This is why discussions here are often more 'searching' and have more substance than sometimes you get on other forums. We're not protecting any agendas!

    It's not always comfortable reading for followers of whatever or whoever is under scrutiny, but it's the only way of getting to the nitty-gritty!

    'Safe' we don't do - we like to push boundaries. Things are much more interesting that way!

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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

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    Incidentally, David, have you read this thread:

    http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=536

    I think it would be right up your street

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyTD View Post
    hi all,
    Well I think its time to get [vaugely] back on track now, richard, can I ask you, are your phono-stages directly coupled on the front end to the cartridge? My reason for asking, you mentioned the cartridge your using had gone noisey, could it be that there is a small amount of DC on the front end of your phono-stage, this can in some cases lead to the noise problem you relate to.
    Obviously transformers dont pass DC so you don't get this potential problem using MC step up transformers.
    Just a thought.
    anthony,TD...
    I wouldn't have thought passing DC through the coils of a pick up cartridge is good for the cartridge either.
    Barry

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    Yes, I'll be a guarantor/trustee and will only let David have it when I believe it's perfect! (with Marco's considerable help and input)

    Then I'll deliver it in person with some known records to make sure it sounds the same as it did here.

    Regards



    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry.d.hunt View Post
    I wouldn't have thought passing DC through the coils of a pick up cartridge is good for the cartridge either.
    my point exactly!
    A...

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyTD View Post
    my point exactly!
    A...
    Wasn't criticising your comments, I just thought it should be pointed out that were the situation be left to continue, damage could be done to the cartridge and to the records being played.

    Regards
    Barry

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    Yes, I'll be a guarantor/trustee and will only let David have it when I believe it's perfect! (with Marco's considerable help and input)

    Then I'll deliver it in person with some known records to make sure it sounds the same as it did here.
    Excellent, Dave. This should be interesting. In the final analysis, I still don't think that the 103SA will be quite David's cup of tea (even when fully optimised), as he is on record as saying that he's a bit of a 'treble man' and values a crisp, 'vivid' presentation that majors on clarity and detail.

    Because of the spherical stylus profile, no DL-103 will ever be able to compete in that area with the Lyras, ATs, Ortofons, VDH's and Transfigurations of this world, but at least, if things are done right, he should hear the true potential of the 103 and what its 'SA' guise brings to the party, as I have alluded to throughout this forum

    What's the plan then chaps? Is David using his deck and one of your 103SAs, Dave? What tonearm will be used? And does David need to borrow my A23? The rest of the system can be sorted out later

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyTD View Post
    ok,
    just a thought, try running a de-magnetiser over the noisey cartridge, it may just be that one of the elements used in its construction, [either the poles, cantilever, coils etc] have become magnetised.
    stranger things have happend i guess!.
    regards,anthony,TD...
    Tried it - still hissing

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry.d.hunt View Post
    Wasn't criticising your comments, I just thought it should be pointed out that were the situation be left to continue, damage could be done to the cartridge and to the records being played.

    Regards
    BUT it wasn't the situation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Tried it - still hissing
    hhmmm,
    very odd! not sure what else to sugest, is it definately on both chanels?
    if so then its obviuosly something to do with what ever each chanel in the cartridge shares/has in common.
    keep us informed if you do get to the bottom of it!
    anthony,TD...

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