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    THS4032 is a little touchy in the highs with the caps removed, probably worth leaving them in
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    Thanks for the effort Leo, the caps stay in!

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    Gary.


    *Now I've a wee niggle at the back of my head as to whether the 4562 with caps removed will sound better than the Tirna 4032!

    I'll fit the 4562 and listen to that for a few days, see how I like it compared to the 4032.
    I fitted new speaker cable recently which has opened up the sound considerably, so mabye its time to re-assess both opamps?

    With the Caps removal mod, whats the general consensus of how much of a jump in quality there is over the "stock" 4562 fitting?
    I listen to mainly rock/AOR but with a lot of classical/Movie scores too, and what I tend to enjoy a lot is realistic tone and timbre...that feeling of "being there", if you knbow what I mean?

    Is THIS what the mod brings to the table? I heard it was worth doing for more realistic decay on instruments etc and someone got into classical more because of it?

    Sounds good to me, will need to re-assess the 4032 v 4562 sound though.



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    OK,
    had the 4562's in for a wee while now, liking the sound.

    Different to the 4032's, higher up elements of the music (vocals, piano's, drum thwacks etc..) seem better seperated, but sound a bit flatter somehow, which makes for a more "exciting" listen, but I found it a bit fatiguing after hour or so.

    I remember thats why I went to the 4032's in the first place.

    Soundstage was good, but the trebles a bit up front and one dimensional if I was honest when compared to the more even handed approach the 4032 has.
    Its good, but not as cohesive or 3D as the 4032's treble.

    To me its the treble's "zing", those little details you hear that make the music more involving, more uhm..musical?

    I took both the Caps off as per the Mod.

    The trace of forwardness or flatness in the treble has now gone.
    Leo called it right earlier, the OpAmps got more room to breath, it sounds more relaxed yet more detailed at the same time? I think because there's more air and naturalness to the treble the little things like reverb and decay are more apparent, and this makes for me a more musically involving listen.

    I answered my own question...

    To me, the 4562's with caps removal Mod sounds better than the 4032 Amps.
    More involving, not fatiguing or digital sounding (which in my system it was a WEE bit guilty of) at all.

    It sounds more pacey, more rythmic and more involving.
    Instruments sound more realistic.

    Perhaps the 4032 has a slightly more cohesive soundstage - but not by much, but it wasn't as involving (which is what counts really) as the setup I have now.

    Highly recommended for those running 4562 amps in their line out.
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    Guys, Can we just clear this one thing - When talking about the 4562 - Do we mean the 4562NA (plastic enclosure) or the 4562HA (metal can) ?

    Personally, I am running with the 4562NA in the Line-out socket and with the MLC5/6 caps removed.

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    I have tried both opamps in the Caiman, and both perform fine with that mod.

    Stan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensimilia View Post
    I have tried both opamps in the Caiman, and both perform fine with that mod.

    Stan
    Caiman or Cayman Stan?
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    Ok with not having it on Betamax nowadays

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    Nope. See http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/cnhc/csp_ccro.htm

    To quote an extract:
    HABITAT:
    Extremely adaptable species found in virtually all lowland wetland and riverine habitat types throughout its range. [] Can tolerate a reasonable degree of salinity. If environmental conditions become too harsh, they will burrow into mud and aestivate.

    That more or less describes the DAC perfectly.

    Leo has been playing about with a close proximation of it, which is why he isn't around that often these days I reckon.

    Stan
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    a-Ha!


    Need to change my spelling Stan.
    Ok with not having it on Betamax nowadays

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    Stan,

    Extremely adaptable species found in virtually all lowland wetland and riverine habitat types throughout its range. [] Can tolerate a reasonable degree of salinity.
    So does it work underwater, then?

    You have PM.

    Cheers

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