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    Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart

    Family guy is on soon, "don't make me huurrrt you".

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    Giving up then? Quite right - you were losing royally anyway!



    Enjoy 'Family Guy', whatever that is!

    Marco.
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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

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    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Oh dear, isn't this fun?
    No, it is very tedious and should stop immediately.

    Please !!!!!

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Oh dear, isn't this fun?
    Err... well, it was, for a while...
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    No worries, Chris.

    As we always listen to what our members think I will not contribute anymore to the off-topic nature of this thread and will insist that Richard does the same.

    From now on all posts not related to HFW and their "bias" against vintage cartridges will be deleted.

    Man we're bloody considerate, eh?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    No worries, Chris.

    As we always listen to what our members think I will not contribute anymore to the off-topic nature of this thread and will insist that Richard does the same.

    From now on all posts not related to HFW and their "bias" against vintage cartridges will be deleted.

    Man we're bloody considerate, eh?

    Marco.
    More bullying tactics!

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    Err no, I'm simply fulfilling the requests of our (quieter and less boisterous) members. I'm imposing the same restrictions on myself as you.

    Go and watch Family Guy and come back later!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    hi all,
    well i think its time to get [vaugely] back on track now, richard, can i ask you, are your phono-stages directly coupled on the front end to the cartridge? my reason for asking, you mentioned the cartridge your using had gone noisey, could it be that there is a small amount of DC on the front end of your phono-stage, this can in some cases lead to the noise problem you relate to.
    obviously transformers dont pass DC so you dont get this potential problem using MC step up transformers.
    just a thought.
    anthony,TD...

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    SUTs are fine.
    I have several phono stages but the one I prefer by a small margin uses tubes and a pair of Sowter SUTs.
    There are no significant drawbacks to using SUTs, despite what has been said and they are particularly good with very low output MCs - Audio Notes spring to mind.

    Just try a variety of option with the chosen cartridge and choose whichever sounds best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyTD View Post
    hi all,
    well i think its time to get [vaugely] back on track now, richard, can i ask you, are your phono-stages directly coupled on the front end to the cartridge? my reason for asking, you mentioned the cartridge your using had gone noisey, could it be that there is a small amount of DC on the front end of your phono-stage, this can in some cases lead to the noise problem you relate to.
    obviously transformers dont pass DC so you dont get this potential problem using MC step up transformers.
    just a thought.
    anthony,TD...
    I have been swopping cartridges around as I have built two Phono2s for the bake-off, one MM one MC. I was testing the MM one first with the SPU, full volume no noise unless ear to speaker. So I swapped the headshells to the M3D one and it is noisy as hell, it sounds like a valve MC stage . Now it wasn't noisy the last time I listen to it a few days ago, so I swapped it out for an Audio Technica AT52E and that was silent, so it is a bit of a mystery at the moment. I am sure there is a simple explanation when I get time to look for it.

    The stage speced out OK on test, just a couple of mv dc on the output. The input is direct coupled to the first gain stage which is just there really to provide the headroom and that is also where the gain of the unit is set, the RIAA is hung around the second stage.

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